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Good post, even though my opinions are as opposite as they can get. I think Moore is the real Bond, even though the others are good. And I´m no Craig hater or anything, I just don´t like CR, cause it tries to be things that Bond isn´t.
And I'm not a Craig hater either... I actually fully supported the day he was cast as Bond, I was very excited for the upcoming CR film, which is where my username originates from... but frankly his 2 films dropped to the bottom of my rankings once the new factor wore out. But as normal film, CR is amongst the best of the 2000's IMO.... and QOS is a very good action film too. I just don't stand them as Bond films. And Craig is a top actor, I think he was awesome in Layer Cake, Munich, Dragon Tattoo and Defiance.
I liked Craig first, but after CR I became a Craig hater. Luckily that disappeared when QOS was released.
And Moore is no agent with a licence to kill. I agree. He is Bond, James Bond. An OTT hero saving the world from megalomaniacs using quips and gadgets.
Now you just want to piss me off. First , you used my words in bad ways.What flaws??? I just want to know. And why do you relate Bourne to Bond? Tell me. I just want to know. Its good to hear other opinions.
Too much drama. Love stories don´t belong in Bond films. The major flaw.
Unbondian - It doesn´t feel like Bond to me. Another major flaw
Too long. Gets boring sometimes.
I don´t like Vesper at all.
The action scenes and the grittiness feel and look like Bourne.
The torture scene doesn´t belong in a Bond movie.
The last half hour is the worst in 007 history.
The hospital part, with the love stuff, blahhh.
The scene in the shower when Bond is sucking Vesper´s finger, also blahhh.
The sinking house scene is good apart from when Vesper is involved. That is melodramatic, again blahhh.
The action scene in Madagascar is great, I´ll happily admit that. And Craig does a good job as a rookie 007, even though I don´t like the reboot stuff.
The airport sequence is too stressed, just like in the Bourne movies. M is stressed. Bond and M´s secretary (or whatever) are stressed, the music is stressing and people are screaming in panic. That ins´t necessary. I don´t like it.
Too much "Oh my god, I killed someone" (after staircase fight). Vesper is much worse in the scene, though.
The movie starts out well, and then declines. The ending is weak.
No Q and Moneypenny. Bad.
No gadgets - Arghh.
No gunbarrel in the beginning.
Almost no JB theme.
These are some of the problems I have with CR.
Bullsh*t. Don't force your opinion of CR down my throat. If you want to forbide people from hating CR, please start your own dictatorship elsewhere, but don't come here telling us what we can or can't do or what we must think.
You seem to have problems with people disagreeing with you... I hope you aren't so bossy like that in real life
Im sorry if i passed that kind of message. Not my intention at all. Im sorry really .Everybody has their own opinion. And i respect that. I just use exclamation points a lot. Im really sorry. And im not bossy.
Thank you for your opinions and thank you for showing the flaws. I respect your problems with CR
Again ,not my intention.
DaltonCraig007. I like Moore, dont get me wrong. Im not trying a lot to force anyone. What i meant by that quote is that I think its a really good movie and I was wondering why you didnt like it has much. Hope you realize that.Again sorry
As for CR, it just didn't felt like a Bond movie - no one liners, no gadget, no Q, no Moneypenny, no Bond theme, no gun barrel at the start....
Well, when it comes to Fleming, there's no overabundance of one liners or gadgets. I did wish there was a Q and a Moneypenny, but their absence didn't really hurt the film. I'm actually happy that the Bond theme wasn't used until the end, because it made the use of the theme that much more powerful. The theme loses steam if it's used wall-to-wall. I was disappointed with QoS not using the gunbarrel until the end, but CR has it close enough to the start that I can deal with it. I want it back at the beginning for Skyfall, however.
Always a pleasure to give my opinion to fans so that they know what´s right and what isn´t.
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I think youve mistaken this forum for an Austin Powers one because that is not James Bond.
Practically all the 'flaws' you list are taken pretty much straight from a book called Casino Royale by some bloke called Ian Fleming.
You may think that Roger is the best Bond and like his over the top romps best - thats your perogative but please dont start making statements that CR is unbondian as you will just come across as a fool.
It is your taste in Roger Moores comedy adeventures for the whole family that is unbondian not CR.
I adore a bit of Roger and would never slag him off as he saved the series and his films are never less than entertaining (well apart from TMWTGG which is less in every department!) but there is a world of difference between the world Fleming created and the universe of double taking pigeons. By definition Flemings novels are Bondian and things that deviate from them are not. As CR, in its second half, sticks pretty religiously to the novel then it is a reasonable point to argue that it is more Bondian than most of Rogers films which average not even one scene from Fleming per film.
But that's what Moore Whoores love about Roger's films: they aren't a damn bit like the books.
*DRUMROLL*
Tony Stark has nothing on Bruce Wayne. Both rich boys, but Tony is the shallow playboy drinker for real, while Bruce only uses that as a facade to hide his real identity alongside being tormented by the deaths of his parents that drive his vigilante conquest. I'll take Bruce over Tony any day of the week.