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  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    Moore will always be number 1.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited March 2012 Posts: 11,189
    Controversial opinion: I've read Fleming and I'd still rank Moore above Craig (and Dalton for that matter).

    No one bashes Sir Rog!!!!
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    I actually like CR67. IMO the film is quite funny, a mix of laughing at the film and laughing with the film. I never get bored of watching this. The film is so weird sometimes I always pick up new details everytime I watch it.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    I actually like CR67. IMO the film is quite funny, a mix of laughing at the film and laughing with the film. I never get bored of watching this. The film is so weird sometimes I always pick up new details everytime I watch it.

    Since watching it I've thought of it as a prelude to Austin Powers.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    BAIN123 wrote:
    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    I actually like CR67. IMO the film is quite funny, a mix of laughing at the film and laughing with the film. I never get bored of watching this. The film is so weird sometimes I always pick up new details everytime I watch it.

    Since watching it I've thought of it as a prelude to Austin Powers.

    I haven't seen the Austin Powers films in a long time... will give them a go soon.

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    My thoughts on this thread:

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  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited March 2012 Posts: 9,117
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    Please! I´d even rather watch Austin Powers than CR67.

    You cant start slagging off CR67 all of a sudden 007RogerMoore.

    Full of gags, over the top and by your AC/DC criteria it is an official Bond film so theres nothing wrong with it.

    And seeing as bereft of any Fleming and is not mich different from films such as MR and DAD which you are so keen on I would expect it to feature in your top 5.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Samuel001 wrote:
    My thoughts on this thread:

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    Yes, we truly have veered off down many a dark dusty road and lost our way more times that I could accurately count. In addition, though I respect some of the more unsavory opinions laid out in this thread, I can't stop myself from face-palming to the point of a sore wrist.
  • 00Beast00Beast
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    Here's a controversial opinion: GF and OHMSS are Bond classics
    Certainly two of the most over-rated Bond movies out of the 22.

    By the way, hopefully this will steer this thread back on course! Haha.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    00Beast wrote:
    Here's a controversial opinion: GF and OHMSS are Bond classics
    Certainly two of the most over-rated Bond movies out of the 22.

    By the way, hopefully this will steer this thread back on course! Haha.
    I definitely agree with you that GF is overrated. I have had many a heated argument over just that topic right here on MI6.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    This could well go on longer than the nauseating 'Bond's Beards' from a few months ago, but still feel we are not even half way with regards to that yet

    About a third of this isn't even about Bond either, other non related items have sneaked into the sober arena since it's inception

    It's merely 'Controversial opinions about James Bond', but 'feel free to throw in some miscellaneous talk' if you like

    In any event, keeping it consistent, the above two releases are indeed overrated, especially the first, not sure OHMSS gets the recognition it deserves sometimes though

    This will probably keep rumbling on until the return of Halleys comet so we might as well say whatever opinions we see viable as Bond controversies..

    Connery looked damned stupid with a plastic duck on his head..

    'Heroin flavored bananas', what a load of nonsense..

    OHMSS sometimes descended to Moore levels on occasion with regards to nauseating camp and ill advised humor..
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote:
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    Please! I´d even rather watch Austin Powers than CR67.

    You cant start slagging off CR67 all of a sudden 007RogerMoore.

    Full of gags, over the top and by your AC/DC criteria it is an official Bond film so theres nothing wrong with it.

    And seeing as bereft of any Fleming and is not mich different from films such as MR and DAD which you are so keen on I would expect it to feature in your top 5.

    I´m sorry, bit it´s not recognisesable as a Bond film. The others you mentioned have good action and a Bond related story, while CR67 is just a bad joke. There are good things in it, but as a whole...nahhh.

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    Here's a controversial dream I had last night : I don't remember much of it, but I do remember that Pierce Brosnan had a major role in Skyfall alongside Craig !!
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    Here's a controversial dream I had last night : I don't remember much of it, but I do remember that Pierce Brosnan had a major role in Skyfall alongside Craig !!

    Not sure if that's controversial or just wishful thinking (for both of us, because I vaguely remember having the same dream).
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    edited March 2012 Posts: 6,601
    =))

    Reading this is like being in a men only pup and listen to them talking as the fly on the wall. Hilarious. Bond and Fleming (hey, I got it right this time B-) ) should be flattered, they arouse so much emotion and dedication from the guys. Its clear some are really serious and some are just playing off the rest, which is fine as well, as its rather obvious, who is what. Just saying, I appreciate the look into the Bond world through the eyes of their fans.

    Being a fan of whatever is only fun, if you are are really engaged - otherwise - why bother?
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    Tell me, frau. where do you find me? Serious, or playing off the rest?
  • GermanladyGermanlady
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    Agent007391 wrote:
    Tell me, frau. where do you find me? Serious, or playing off the rest?

    I think, you are funny, when you get mad ;) I think, you punch in earnest.
  • Master_DaharkMaster_Dahark
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    An unorthodox opinion:
    Sean, George and Roger are one continuous James Bond.
    Tim and Pierce are James Bond 'rebooted'.
    Daniel, in my opinion, is actually the second 'rebooted' James Bond.

    I don't mean the whole 'Bond is a codename' crap- I just mean Bond has been rebooted before
  • Crab_Of_DoomCrab_Of_Doom
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    -Sean Connery is grossly overrated as Bond. Moore is far superior. As is Brosnan.
    -CR is a horrible Bond movie. CR and QOS are way too serious.
    -DAD and TND are great Bond movies.
    -The Dalton era should never have happened. He is way too serious.
    -FWRL, GF, OHMSS and CR are very overrated.

  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    Crab_Of_Doom wrote:
    -Sean Connery is overrated as Bond. Moore is far superior. As is Brosnan.
    -CR is a horrible Bond movie. CR and QOS are way too serious.
    -DAD and TND are great Bond movies.
    -FWRL, GF, OHMSS and CR are very overrated.

    Yeah, strangely enough, I agree with him. What a surprise.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    007RogerMoore wrote:
    Crab_Of_Doom wrote:
    -Sean Connery is overrated as Bond. Moore is far superior. As is Brosnan.
    -CR is a horrible Bond movie. CR and QOS are way too serious.
    -DAD and TND are great Bond movies.
    -FWRL, GF, OHMSS and CR are very overrated.

    Yeah, strangely enough, I agree with him. What a surprise.

    I'm not surprised. I don't think anyone but yourself is.
    Crab_Of_Doom wrote:
    -Sean Connery is grossly overrated as Bond. Moore is far superior. As is Brosnan.
    -CR is a horrible Bond movie. CR and QOS are way too serious.
    -DAD and TND are great Bond movies.
    -The Dalton era should never have happened. He is way too serious.
    -FWRL, GF, OHMSS and CR are very overrated.
    You know a film can't be overrated if it deserves the praise, right??
    ;)
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    Crab_Of_Doom wrote:
    -Sean Connery is overrated as Bond. Moore is far superior. As is Brosnan.
    -CR is a horrible Bond movie. CR and QOS are way too serious.
    -DAD and TND are great Bond movies.
    -FWRL, GF, OHMSS and CR are very overrated.

    Yeah, strangely enough, I agree with him. What a surprise.

    I'm not surprised. I don't think anyone but yourself is.
    Crab_Of_Doom wrote:
    -Sean Connery is grossly overrated as Bond. Moore is far superior. As is Brosnan.
    -CR is a horrible Bond movie. CR and QOS are way too serious.
    -DAD and TND are great Bond movies.
    -The Dalton era should never have happened. He is way too serious.
    -FWRL, GF, OHMSS and CR are very overrated.
    You know a film can't be overrated if it deserves the praise, right??
    ;)

    From the first time that Grant speaks to Bond, until the end, it deserves praise. The "crawl over here and kiss my foot" part is excellent. I´m not too fond of everything before that, though. One of my least favorites, but still a pretty good movie.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    007RogerMoore wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    Crab_Of_Doom wrote:
    -Sean Connery is overrated as Bond. Moore is far superior. As is Brosnan.
    -CR is a horrible Bond movie. CR and QOS are way too serious.
    -DAD and TND are great Bond movies.
    -FWRL, GF, OHMSS and CR are very overrated.

    Yeah, strangely enough, I agree with him. What a surprise.

    I'm not surprised. I don't think anyone but yourself is.
    Crab_Of_Doom wrote:
    -Sean Connery is grossly overrated as Bond. Moore is far superior. As is Brosnan.
    -CR is a horrible Bond movie. CR and QOS are way too serious.
    -DAD and TND are great Bond movies.
    -The Dalton era should never have happened. He is way too serious.
    -FWRL, GF, OHMSS and CR are very overrated.
    You know a film can't be overrated if it deserves the praise, right??
    ;)

    From the first time that Grant speaks to Bond, until the end, it deserves praise. The "crawl over here and kiss my foot" part is excellent. I´m not too fond of everything before that, though. One of my least favorites, but still a pretty good movie.

    The whole movie is a brilliant piece of Cold War espionage, how can it be bad? It shows exactly how close the East and the West were to war back in the 60s.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    Moore and Brosnan far superior to Connery !

    Casino Royale horrible Bond movie !

    Die Another Day & Tomorrow Never Dies , great Bond movies !

    Tim Dalton should never have happened !

    Yes, fair enough though, Golfdinger is overrated, I'll allow you that


    Point is, Connery fully justifies his place at the top or very near, for his portrayal of James Bond, especially early on, not so sure towards the end

    Royale is not really horrible so to speak, inplausible sometimes, most definitely, but on a lesser extent for sure on the last Brosnan outing. I like my Bond's serious, and that's maybe one of the standout advantages of having Craig as our current 007

    Can you imagine the James Bond series without Dalton?, Ok he was a bit poker faced sometimes and all business, but so what, It was a most welcome relief after the Big Top antics of his predecessor. Dalton was a bit dark and brooding for some but those are the characteristics I appreciate in James Bond, let's keep it serious

    Russia can't be overrated as most people will tell you it fully justifies it's place in the Top three of the entire franchise, James Bond at his best you could say. But Yes, OHMSS, Goldfinger and Royale do get overrated sometimes, it's merely a clash of opinions at the end of the day. We're all here to agree to disagree and all that
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Goldfinger may be overrated, but I don't know about Golfdinger @Baltimore_007. ;)
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
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    That was purely unintentional I promise

    Best smile I've had of the evening thus far

    I would of loved to have heard Bassey singing that in the intros

    Golfdinger,,,,,,,,der der der,,,,,,,,,he's the man, the man with the midas touch etc etc
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited April 2012 Posts: 28,694
    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    That was purely unintentional I promise

    Best smile I've had of the evening thus far

    I would of loved to have heard Bassey singing that in the intros

    Golfdinger,,,,,,,,der der der,,,,,,,,,he's the man, the man with the midas touch etc etc
    I'm glad I brightened your evening. You could even sell off that title to someone who doesn't know jack about Bond. You could try to play it up that the film is a high stakes 2 round golf face off between Bond, Auric, and the ten best British golfers where the state of the world rests on Bond acquiring the tournament's trophy which holds nuclear codes that SPECTRE plans to acquire. You'd even be able to show them stills of the golf match scene in GF to convince them that that is the plot.
    :))
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    I can imagine the Bond series without Moore. It's actually quite easy. I look at it this way: Bond stopped in the sixties, took the seventies off, and returned in the late eighties. He then stopped again after TND, took off the remainder of the nineties and early 2000s, then returned in 2006.
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
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    Agent007391 wrote:
    I can imagine the Bond series without Moore. It's actually quite easy. I look at it this way: Bond stopped in the sixties, took the seventies off, and returned in the late eighties. He then stopped again after TND, took off the remainder of the nineties and early 2000s, then returned in 2006.

    Why would anyone want to cut out the best pieces? That would be sheer stupidity, wouldn´t it?

  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    007RogerMoore wrote:
    Agent007391 wrote:
    I can imagine the Bond series without Moore. It's actually quite easy. I look at it this way: Bond stopped in the sixties, took the seventies off, and returned in the late eighties. He then stopped again after TND, took off the remainder of the nineties and early 2000s, then returned in 2006.

    Why would anyone want to cut out the best pieces? That would be sheer stupidity, wouldn´t it?

    Yes, it would be stupid to cut out the best pieces. Of course, those best pieces are

    1962-1969
    1987-1997
    2006-20XX
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