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  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
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    I believe it was a deliberate attempt to separate Dalton from his predecessor, to show that this guy was going to take things very seriously.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Too seriously. ;))
  • TakeASipTakeASip
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    Who are your picks for ugliest Bond girls Mi6?
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited February 2017 Posts: 1,756
    TakeASip wrote: »
    Who are your picks for ugliest Bond girls Mi6?

    Belle Avery.

    Carey Lowell looks good but I hate the way she looks with short hair. Kills the sex appeal for me.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    These are my opinions that differ from hardcore bond fans despite me being one

    Dr no is very average
    Thunderball is the worst cinematic film ever
    I love the Spy Who Loved me and octopussy
    I think a View to a kill is shit
    The Living Daylights is my second favorite film
    License to kill is really good and so is dalton
    Pierce Brosnan is a great bond and has two great films. TND and goldeneye which I like lesser because of its cancerous score
    Skyfall is almost as bad as thunderball
    Quantum of solace is great not the best but a solid entry

    Based on these, may I ask what decade were you born in @JamesBondKenya
    I find the older I get, the more I appreciate the 60's and 70's entries more. But also the newer films. Two films that I was never keen on originally are YOLT and GE, but both have become two films I enjoy more and more. I wonder if our age has an impact on our enjoyment of the films. Another one would be FAF, which for many a year, I found rather silly and very in Bond like. Today, I like its bizarreness and find it a fun romp from beginning to end.
    Just for the record....

    Dr no is very average - Not really. Great debut.
    Thunderball is the worst cinematic film ever - Not even close.
    I love the Spy Who Loved me and Octopussy - Totally agree.
    I think a View to a kill is shit - I wouldn't put it quite like that, but it isn't great.
    The Living Daylights is my second favorite film - It's in my top 5, and always has been.
    License to kill is really good and so is Dalton - Can't disagree on these points
    Pierce Brosnan is a great bond and has two great films. TND and goldeneye which I like lesser because of its cancerous score - GE is easily Brosnans best.
    Skyfall is almost as bad as Thunderball - Can't agree with that.
    Quantum of solace is great not the best but a solid entry - I know it is loved, but I find it a poor follow up to CR, with awful editing and camera work. The most dour and least fun film of the series hands down.




  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Benny wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    These are my opinions that differ from hardcore bond fans despite me being one

    Dr no is very average
    Thunderball is the worst cinematic film ever
    I love the Spy Who Loved me and octopussy
    I think a View to a kill is shit
    The Living Daylights is my second favorite film
    License to kill is really good and so is dalton
    Pierce Brosnan is a great bond and has two great films. TND and goldeneye which I like lesser because of its cancerous score
    Skyfall is almost as bad as thunderball
    Quantum of solace is great not the best but a solid entry

    Based on these, may I ask what decade were you born in @JamesBondKenya
    I find the older I get, the more I appreciate the 60's and 70's entries more. But also the newer films. Two films that I was never keen on originally are YOLT and GE, but both have become two films I enjoy more and more. I wonder if our age has an impact on our enjoyment of the films. Another one would be FAF, which for many a year, I found rather silly and very in Bond like. Today, I like its bizarreness and find it a fun romp from beginning to end.
    Just for the record....

    Dr no is very average - Not really. Great debut.
    Thunderball is the worst cinematic film ever - Not even close.
    I love the Spy Who Loved me and Octopussy - Totally agree.
    I think a View to a kill is shit - I wouldn't put it quite like that, but it isn't great.
    The Living Daylights is my second favorite film - It's in my top 5, and always has been.
    License to kill is really good and so is Dalton - Can't disagree on these points
    Pierce Brosnan is a great bond and has two great films. TND and goldeneye which I like lesser because of its cancerous score - GE is easily Brosnans best.
    Skyfall is almost as bad as Thunderball - Can't agree with that.
    Quantum of solace is great not the best but a solid entry - I know it is loved, but I find it a poor follow up to CR, with awful editing and camera work. The most dour and least fun film of the series hands down.




    I was born in 2002 I find that all the films have something to enjoy in them except skyfall and thunderball otherwise I think every bond film is unique and good in its own way. I've found my own opinions completely flip flop in the past year with movies like from Russia With Love that went from average to favorite
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    "Thunderball is the worst cinematic film ever"

    That's not controversial, its just plain stupid.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @JamesBondKenya, you'll likely find your tastes and appreciation in the series to slightly alter over the next decade or so. Happens to all of us, my ranking today certainly isn't the same as it was when I was a teenager.
  • dominicgreenedominicgreene The Eternal QOS Defender
    edited February 2017 Posts: 1,756
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @JamesBondKenya, you'll likely find your tastes and appreciation in the series to slightly alter over the next decade or so. Happens to all of us, my ranking today certainly isn't the same as it was when I was a teenager.

    Definitely agree on this. Bond films just get better as you get older, particularly FRWL. Seemed boring as a teenager, now in my top 5. You never really appreciate how great Connery is until you see how effortlessly and cool he plays the role compared to the other actors.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited February 2017 Posts: 23,883
    dominicgreene wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @JamesBondKenya, you'll likely find your tastes and appreciation in the series to slightly alter over the next decade or so. Happens to all of us, my ranking today certainly isn't the same as it was when I was a teenager.

    Definitely agree on this. Bond films just get better as you get older, particularly FRWL. Seemed boring as a teenager, now in my top 5. You never really appreciate how great Connery is until you see how effortlessly and cool he plays the role compared to the other actors.
    +1. Hated FRWL as a kid. My favourite Conner's was YOLT back then (because I thought it was the most Roger Moorish). How things change.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
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    As a teenager my favourite was always GE. To be honest though, I don't remember flat out disliking any of the films.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I've always loved the first 4 Connery films and still do. As a teenager the Brosnan era was a big disappointment and when Casino Royale came along it really emphasised this for me.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Madonna's lyrics are good. The music, however...

    Still can't believe Bond took "sloppy seconds" from Austin Powers on the singer.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    As a teenager my favourite was always GE. To be honest though, I don't remember flat out disliking any of the films.

    Nor I. That's the beauty of being young, I was nowhere near as critical as I am today. At the same time, though, the films that I may not have been a big fan of as a kid (OHMSS) now make my Top 5 (or in OHMSS' case, Top 3).
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    BAIN123 wrote: »
    As a teenager my favourite was always GE. To be honest though, I don't remember flat out disliking any of the films.

    Nor I. That's the beauty of being young, I was nowhere near as critical as I am today. At the same time, though, the films that I may not have been a big fan of as a kid (OHMSS) now make my Top 5 (or in OHMSS' case, Top 3).

    Good points. Agreed.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited February 2017 Posts: 11,189
    While I always liked those early films, I definitely like them even more as an adult as that's when you appreciate how well made they are.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    echo wrote: »
    A couple from DAD:

    Welcome To Cuba is one of Arnold's finest moments.

    I enjoy the Jinx/Miranda fight more than the Bond/Graves one at the end.
    I think the first half (roughly) of DAD is quite good overall (I was initially kind of elated that the first half of DAD was way better than the dismal TWINE, but the second half sort of disappointed so much as to completely nix that effect) , and NOT just for Arnold's excellent take on creating (or copying?) Cuban music. It's the second half that remits DAD to the junk heap, starting no later than the first meeting with Jinx.
    I think Arnold is better than john barry

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  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Ha ha ha. No one is ever going to be better than John Barry. He is a genious.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    SPECTRE is better than skyfall
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    No way. But I can see why some prefer it. Agreed.
  • TheSharkFromJawsTheSharkFromJaws Amity Island Waters
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    To me, the screen time is irrelevant if the actor in question makes an impact, which Dr. No does splendidly for me. All I needed was that dinner sequence to make up for a lack of seeing him throughout the rest of the movie.
    This. That dinner scene is excellent and probably the greatest set of dialogue exchanges between Bond and villain of the whole series.

  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    SPECTRE is better than skyfall
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  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    No way. But I can see why some prefer it. Agreed.

    Thunderball is the worst film in the series
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Thunderball is the worst film in the series
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  • QuantumOrganizationQuantumOrganization We have people everywhere
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    Lol, True. I guess SKYFALL and Thunderball are too boring for him.
  • GetCarterGetCarter
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    Hagrid is bad in GE and TWINE. Wish they'd gotten a Russian.

    I dislike getting British actors to play foreigners.
  • GetCarterGetCarter
    edited February 2017 Posts: 386
    Now that I think of it, GE isn't that good.

    Slips further in my rankings with every viewing.

    It's just so ... sluggish.

    By God, where does that leave Brozza?
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    No way. But I can see why some prefer it. Agreed.

    Thunderball is the worst film in the series

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  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited February 2017 Posts: 5,131
    doubleoego wrote: »
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    No way. But I can see why some prefer it. Agreed.

    Thunderball is the worst film in the series

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    One of my personal favourites and certainly on my top five, "Thunderball" is one of the most well rounded Bond adventures to date. Exotic locations, beautiful women, battle sequences, gadgets, suspense, terrific music, and a memorable villain add up to the best of the "popcorn" Bond movies. Terrific entertainment and very faithful to Fleming! It's madness to have it in the bottom 5, pure madness. I would go as far as saying that those who don't like TB, don't really like Fleming or Bond.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    TB does get boring, though. It could have been 20-30 minutes shorter (something that could be said of other Bond films as well).
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