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If DaltonCraig dislikes Craig so much why does he have him as part of a username, which includes Dalton but has Moore as a personal favorite ?
Quite how Quantum of Solace manages to be a better Bond release than Casino Royale I can't quite understand either
Diamonds are Forever as one of the best Bond films?, I'd hate to see a lousy one then..
Charles Gray as Blofeld as best Bond adversary?, this is keeping me amused
License to Kill was intentionally darker and I didn't find much to laugh at unless people have a strange sense of humor
Someone even went as far to say they enjoyed the Madonna music from Die Another Day
I guess there's a plethora of debates and opinions here and variety and each to their own and all but some of the things mentioned tonight have been (unintentionally) amusing. That's a good thing I guess, if we all felt the same way about the series there wouldn't be much to talk about. No harm done
It sure gets a chuckle out of me. Both Sanchez and Dario are hilarious. "Did he fly away like a little bird?" or the way Dario says "He's an informer!" =))
"Are you not entertained?!"
This is a good thread in fact. I think (or I hope at least) people are letting their true feelings air out, instead feeling outnumbered by the popular opinion...
Here's one:
NicNac was one of the more memorable and entertaining henchmen of the series
Let's keep it going. Gimme some controversy!
Goldfinger is a lame villain
Thunderball and YOLT are Connery's best bond films
George Lazenby wasn't very convincing as a British agent. His accent sounded more American.
Moonraker was actually pretty good.
The rewatch value on all of Moore's films are high. (TMWTGG included ;) )
Licence to Kill is boring and is too gory for a Bond Film (too Miami Vicey)
Brosnan's Films are all great. (Brosnan is the definitive bond.)
Craig is an awesome Bond, CR and Qos are two of the best in the series.
I'm Murdock and that's my two cents on the matter.
Diamonds Are Forever is a really great film.
It's merely found it's way into a seperate thread - something we talk about week in week out in seperate locations and designated areas
In any event, I'll compromise-
Nick Nack for me was nothing special, in fact I'll even go as far to say he wasn't really needed for Moore's second outing or any Bond release come to think of it, It's a character I wouldn't have missed if it had been omitted
Just for more controversy purposes I'll reiterate in saying -
Honor Blackman, dull and uninspiring mundane Bond girl
Goldfinger is a narcoleptics paradise
Shirley Bassey - poor musician
Lulu actually did a fine job with the theme music in 1974
Michael Lonsdale one of the better Bond adversaries
License To Kill should of been called 'License to see sharks, nice shots of the Florida Keys and an experience and overall viewing sensation quite detached from the actual James Bond franchise'
The final half hour of A View to a Kill should of been sent to a bottomless pit and started from scratch
Paul McCartney and Wings did give us the best theme intro
Lois Chiles could well be one of the worst Bond ladies of the series
Why did they need to fit in if Bond 'wanted a cucumber sandwich' from that release, what was the point of that anyway
I probably have another 1,450 of these bones of contention regarding the series but you get the idea. This could well become a long thread one would imagine
- I think Lonsdale was horribly miscast as Drax and is one of the most boring villains in the series.
EXPEL HIM !
Yes I can appreciate some may find him dull or lifeless, but still some great lines
Did Lonsdale dress up in drag and make an ass of himself though.. Leader of SPECTRE my butt
His entire scene in the casino. His forced humor with Q--out of place with Dalton's Bond (this is also an issue in TLD). On the other hand, Dalton plays exasperation really well in practically every scene with Kara.
Another controversial opinion: I think Christopher Lee is terrible and forgettable in TMWTGG. Bond has a duel with...his grandfather?
I like QOS but I wouldn't say it's better than CR IMO, however I also think that TMWTGG is the best bond movie
Funny how people always believe someone is 'trolling' when they don't agree with his opinions. Has it crossed your mind at all that it is possible for someone to hate CR and Craig ? Or does that never happen in your perfect Craig kingdom ?
My dislike for Dalton startet way back, when the movi came out first and has therefore NOTHING to do with DC.
I often stated, that I very much like Sir Roger and his films - so I am by no means just a DC lover.
Eh ? Yes I have... I've said many times that I quite liked some aspect of the the card game in CR.
I could also say all the Craig fans are also complete idiots and have shit opinions. Why do the Craig fanboys always insist on insulting and mocking everyone who doesn't agree with their love of Craig ? Why is it that bashing and nearly insulting Brosnan for being a 'crap Bond' is almost constant on this site, and no one complains about it, but if someone happens to make one single post that bashes Craig, suddenly you are the new #1 public enemy ?
I must say the most horrible group of Bond fans are the Brosnan bashers and the Craig lovers, because if you happen to disagree with their opinions on these 2 actors, they start insulting you. You can love and bash Connery, Lazenby, Moore and Dalton all you want... but if you are a Brosnan fan and you can't stand Craig, you are treated as a complete moron by the Craig lovers and Brosnan bashers.
All opinions are allowed on this site... all but 2 : loving Brosnan and hating Craig. I would like an explanation why these 2 opinions aren't allowed on this site, and why you are treated like shit if you agree with these 2 opinions.
Debating about Craig and Brosnan is impossible on this site. Whenever you talk about Brosnan, inevitably a member will post that Brosnan was a shit Bond... And whenever you talk about Craig and someone posts a negative opinion on him, he is insulted and ridiculed by the Craig fanboy army.
Well - you just wrote this:
CR is an appallingly bad Bond film, and a pathetic film alltogether.
Guess saying this about the 2nd highest grossing film sounds a bit weird. Don't you think?
I suppose, that bashing Craig is a bit irritating for many, because most can see at least SOME good in his portrayal. Maybe that's why trashing posts are answered to in this way.
DAD is considered one if the if not THE worst Bond film, still you have it on your favourite list. Don't you agree, that this sounds a bit like just going for controverse? You shouldn't be surprised, if people question your beliefs. Its only natural, I think. Don't you?
And you still haven't answered, what comes up again and again and not only by me - why this user name? Its like I call myself Russian Lady. Doesn't make sense.
Also stop whining - we all take s*** at times (just read what the good Dr. Metz calls me) - so what? Do I care? No, why would I? I don't know the guy and don't care to. Its really nothing to complain about. I know, I gonna get a s*** answer on this. Such is life
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If you actually cared to read my posts, I said Craig would probably be good if he got a decent Bond script.
And judging how good a film is based on how much money it made isn't weird? If we went by that, The Phantom Menace would be one of the best Star Wars films.
Your taste in Bonds seems a bit crap, honestly. Moore's alright, but there's three other Bonds I like more than him.
I don't even get what you mean by this. Are you saying it's bad I enjoy the more fantastical elements of Bond? Because, if you are, I hate to break it to you, all Bond films are pretty unrealistic.
Anything Craig did or can do, Dalton can do better.
You know, I just explained why I didn't like that film.
So you judge movie quality by box office success ? How ridiculous is that ? =))
I have never read such a ridiculous claim. Are people not allowed to hate Taxi Driver, or love Transfomers, or love Armageddon or hate Schindler's List ? If you are saying that everyone should love the same films and hate the same films, and disagreeing with them is 'going from controverse', then you are a complete joke.
I see the tyrrant GermanLady wants to impose her dictatorship on this forum. 'No !!' loving DAD is not allowed ! No !! hating CR is not allowed !'
I see that the Fuhrer GermanLady wants movie tastes be dictated by box office success and by the amount of universal love/hate each movie has. If said movie is loved by most, than EVERYONE should follow this love, even if they don't agree with it, and if said movie is hated by most, EVERYONE should follow this hatred, even if they don't agree with it.
So why don't the MI6 self-proclaimed President germanlady please tell us which movies cannot be loved and which movies cannot be hated ? Why don't you also make a list of non-Bond films that should always be worshipped and those that should always be detested ?
So - if you are able to make a film, that pleases the audience, this is quality in itsself.
BTW - maybe remember the 9 Bafta nods CR got, including Best Actor. This seems to indicate some quality, don't you think?
There are quality Indie films, few people see, but often those are not made for the bigger audience - hence they have a low budget to begin with and don't depend on massive BO to be counted successful.
If you make a film for the big market for $$$, that stays behind expectations, your quality doesn't mean a thing, as obviously something is missing, which again takes away from the quality factor. If a film has the quality to please the audiences and makes them queue at the theater, it has succeeded to provide, what the people want at that time. And - in the end - this is what films are made for and where their quality is based on.
There are so called quality films, that no one wants to see - so for me, the quality in this film went the wrong way. Really very easy to understand...
Suppose I meet your taste in saying, that some here or many find LTK a quality Bond film. A film, that was made in the hope, that the masses would love the new actor and the new take on it. It didn't work out that way. So - to me - this film has proved, that a film, that doesn't do, what its supposed to, can hardly be called a quality film. It lost out on the most important factor...
Transfomers 3 is the top grossing film of 2011, yet only a score of 6.4 on IMDB.
See above. I offered some more thoughts about the topic.
I can only repeat myself here - films that are made for the big bucks and deliver tell me, the quality was right for what it wanted to be and met the approval of the fans - often not that of the critics, of course.
I think, I remember the last Pirate film had terrible ratings but another very strong showing. People loved it for what it is and hence, the entertainment quality was just right.
I hated them btw...couldn't make it through the second and completely lost interest. But that is just me. Millions loved it and I have NO ideas why.
But @ Dalton/Craig, your bringing in the nazi is really out of place - just saying. With this, you certainly deconstructed yourself and gave a poor performance of how far you would go in your rage.
Just this @ Dr. Metz - IF Dalton was or could do everything better then DC, he would have made a more successful entree. Obviously the majority didn't think that way. And sorry to bring THIS to you - Bond films are made to be succeessful and the main actor needs to appeal to the masses. It could have gone all wrong with DC, too - difference - it didn't.
Why can YOU hate the Pirates films and I can't hate CR ? Why can you hate world wide hits like the Pirates films, while I'm not allowed to hate CR ?
I see you are continuing the installation of your own tyranny on this site. You can do anything you want, but if someone else does he is wrong.
I see that MI6Community has turned into the Craig fanboys kindgom and the Brosnan-bashing land... No one can voice their arguments if they don't follow the views of the self-proclaimed new leaders of this site.
I don't care any of your opinions! I have my personal ranking of the 22 movies (FRWL at the top, DAD at the bottom); I don't count the unofficals, they don't exist for me.
I love the Fleming books and I don't read any other Bond novel that ain't by Fleming.
And as I'm not Michael Wilson nor Martin Campbell nor any other director or producer, nor I'm envolve in the production of any other Bond film, I don't want to change other people's thoughts about the movies!
I simply don't care...
Actually, I agree with you. Everyone has their likes and dislikes and should be entitled to their own opinions. It's when things get out of hand is when the problems arise.
At least "Die Another Day" is better than Shirley "Can't-Really-F***ing-Sing" Bassey.