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Connery was just as cool in DN, FRWL and TB and seemed far more committed even in dire situations. In DN he could have been killed on the spot during the dinner conversation. He was cool, he was not carefree, when talking to Dr No.
What many of you don't seem to understand is that he actually had no need to really do something. He knew Honey had informed Felix and trusted he would be taking care of everything coming up. So why risk getting shot in the back while trying to escape or, or ...
He didn't know about Pussy at all,you can tell by his surprise on his face when he asked who helped switch the canisters on the helicopter and they tell him she did.
Well you're improving, but practise makes perfect ;-) Those comments after all weren't meant to be silly, even though you might consider them so, but heartfelt opinions.
Your expectations of what I can, or can't understand are, as far as I'm aware of, based on the fact that we hold different opinions. That isn't much to go by. I might understand more then you expect, but still hold a different view (in my work I'm rather well known for that tbh).
@sirseanisbond I think, with FRWL and TB beeing the entries around GF, it's safe to say it still can be seen within it's timeframe. It just doesn't add up well. The 'gun toting hag' (old lady with the machine gun) however Kubrick may have liked it, isn't Bond and shouldn't be in a Bond film. Guy Hamilton just isn't as much in control and as serious as Terence Young, and it shows. I also think the general public is less concearned with these problems, as we saw with the immense success of Skyfall. Here also it was a hype that launched the film more then the film in itself would justify I think. It's not a bad thing, GF made Bond the phenomenon it now is, but it doesn't mean the film in itself is that good. I think Bond could've been far more impressed by the plan and Goldfinger and tried a little more to thwart the plan, other then just forcing himself on Pussy( no pun here!). The gangsters could've been disposed of in a different way (i.e. to let them help with the transport first, or show how GF took their money too, or something in that vein). Instead what could've been an outrageausly good thriller turned into more of a comedy. A Roger Moore Bond far before Roger was in sight.
Bond overpowers the guard in his cell and escapes to witness Golfinger giving his 'Grandslam' speech which he hastily jots down on a piece of paper so that kind of dispels your theories that "he wasn't in the slightest worried about his capture"
He then gets the rest of Goldfinger's plan over a mint julep. Before convincing Pussy to inform the authorities. Not bad for a captured man who apparently did nothing at Goldfinger's ranch.
Hope that wasn't too arrogant a post. (That's sarcasm by the way)
Exactly. And that way he is close to Goldfinger during operation grandslam.
And you were doing so well....
anyway, so Bond already knows he'll be able to 'convert' Pussy and she'll turn to the good side after he's done to her what he's good at (supposedly)? No wonder he's so relaxed (eh.. cool). Because if he hadn't been relaxed over that Mint Julep the CIA would've already know there was something wrong, but now they think he's utterly in control.
Before listening in to Goldfinger he makes no attempt to not be found out, and he doesn't seem to mind beeing found out either. Good thing Pussy isn't in the least concearned that Bond just heard the whole story, nor is Goldfinger. And at least we get the gag with all the henchmen in Bond's cell.
I wonder what would've happened if Bond had just gotten up and walked away, would GF have had him killed in plain sight from the CIA?
Whether he knew or not is debatable. But I'm not even talking about his actions but his attitude. He seems far too aloof given what's at stakes here.
But he's a British Spy. He would appear aloof and nonchalant to keep a cool exterior that doesn't mean inside he's not thinking "How the hell can I get out of this predicament?!!!"
If Bond were a shaking nervous wreck the film just wouldn't work!
You're not reading what we are saying and are building a strawman. He was not a nervous wreck when was held at gun point by Grant but you could feel the tension underneath the cool exterior. Same with his dinner with Dr No. These films worked all right. When he talks to Goldfinger he seems mildly amused at best. Nobody here expects Bond to start shouting "Why you monster". Heck he doesn't even have to say more than he does. Only have a different demeanor.
Criticising Connery's performance in GF...????
Well that is controversial I suppose!
Seriously though to be fair Red Grant was about to kill him and he had Honey with him meeting Dr No and was facing a lunatic.
As I mentioned before, Bond was getting the info he was missing from Goldfinger by stoking his ego. He tells Goldfinger it's an 'inspired plan' then later tells Pussy 'He's quite mad you know...'
Connery is perfection in GF.
You know, you are absolutely right about that. I stand corrected.
Still there wasn't much he could do in his situation.
In many a film he gets out of such situations with the help of some gimmick provided by Q, but ironically not in this one, the mother of all gimmick movies.
I absolutely agree with every word of yours.
+1
Agreed...easily his best performance and always bouncing around in my top 3 Major.
You're not reading what we are saying. He was not a nervous wreck when held at gun point by Grant but you could feel the tension underneath the cool exterior. Same with his dinner with Dr No. When he talks to Goldfinger he seems mildly amused at best. Nobody here expects Bond to start shouting "Why you monster"
I'm not criticizing Connery's performance. It's the overall approach of Goldfinger that sets up the attitude of Bond in the movie. But I don't think Hamilton channeled Connery the way Young did.
Hasn't he said that FRWL is his favouite of his Bonds? Not a surprise if true, it's slicker than DN, but not ott like (or not as ott as...) the films from GF on.
He has indeed...
And of course JFK endorsed that,as well as the novel.
In all honesty, I have a very, very, very difficult time criticizing Connery's first four. He had, and always did have, magnificent screen presence. He commanded our attention. He played each film as he, the man, Sean Connery saw the film, and executed as such.
He was close to perfection all the while channeling Fleming's snobbery and masculinity.
I can see the disintegration of this with YOLT, and certainly with DAF (but man, he parodies Bond with "aplomb" in Diamonds!!)...
Have at it....!
That is a fact.
Davi is one of the most underrated villains in the series. Agreed.
Franz Sanchez is unquestionably the great forgotten villain of the franchise. He possesses all the vital characteristics: charm, intelligence, ruthlessness. Yes, he lacks a dumb name, weird deformity and ludicrous plan; such shedding of cliché should be celebrated, not held against him. A psychologically credible Bond villain is a rare and welcome beast. And Sanchez is a fascinating specimen. Just a drug dealer? No more than Scaramanga is ‘just a hitman’ or Goldfinger ‘just a bank robber’. And unlike those gentlemen’s slightly limp exits, the exquisite Robert Davi dies hard.