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Craig: "The job is done, the bitch is dead."
What a great, and not least appropriate, comparison. I mean, there is no difference between the scenes or stories at all...
Complicated Bond is as a character, for any actor to play.
Dalton played it great when he found the murdered Saunders and I think under the direction of Hunt he would have downplayed it as well.
Great acting there from Dalton.
Still, though I find it strange people say Dalton's reaction to Della was theatrical, which it was, and then state Craig's reaction to Vesper is proof he could have handled Tracy well.
If anything Craig's reaction to Vesper is extremely theatrical. Look at him breezing like an animal at 2:38.
Furthermore, I don't think the writers and Campbell did justice to Vesper's death at all in the movie version. In the book it's not part of an action scene, nor is it so theatrical. It is a moment of silent grief.
Glad they already did OHMSS in the 60's with such a great downplayed performance from Lazenby.
Watch both death scenes after each other and tell me which is the classier one. I, for one, prefer the subtlety of OHMSS over the bombastic CR.
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Good points and I agree. I've always said that it's for the best that Laz did OHMSS as a one off, precisely because I think any other actor in that film would have had their legacy impacted, and perhaps not for the best as you note.
Bond is such an alpha character, and a lot of how we see him depends on the actor being able to maintain that characterization in our minds over multiple films. It's easier for the audience to buy into an actor's emotional frailty in a one off situation because it's more of a blank canvas/slate. Craig benefited from this as well in CR, because it was his first film and so we had no preconceived notions.
Additionally, I wouldn't want an actor to become burdened on account of an emotional portrayal which he is then forced to try and top each time out at the expense of giving us a fun adventure.
Having said that, it could work for an actor's last film just as much as it works for his first. That's why, as much as I detest the idea passionately, I think the marriage/loss/grieving thing could work for Craig in B25 as a final send off. His tenure has been rather melancholic to begin with as well (imho), and so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to go down this path.
Don't take my quote as an adequate comparison of the two scenes. What I think is that Lazenby is absolutely the right choice for showing the emotions in a subtle way whereas Craig's Bond is more reserved and rather displays anger instead of sorrow. At least this is how I interpret his post-Vesper-death behaviour. There is nothing wrong with that but I doubt he could have delivered that line in the same ways Lazenby did.
As he was the only one to play a widower.... Connery just forgot that part.
Well I don't know about you, but I'd be certainly be out of breath like that after trying to rescue someone from underwater, and having been there for the good side of two minutes. tbh it's been a long time since I managed two minutes......
I would also not hold that against Craig's Bond, however, I must agree that there is nothing subtle in the whole Vesper death scene. Instead of that, they tried to overly emotionalise this scene with tons of action, Craig's overwhelming physicality and Lynd's overly theatrical moment of death.
This is probably what people nowadays expect when they go to the cinema but I much prefer the subtlety of Tracy's death scene.
Probably my favourite scene in CR.
I prefer their first meeting on the train! Well written and the chemistry between Craig and Green is marvellous!
I'm not a fan of that climax either. It feel obvious there was a necessity for a big action finale, and her drowning in the elevator has nowhere near the impact of the suicide in the book, IMO.
Talking about subtle reactions, I also quite like how Dalton reacts to Della before Felix tells her about Tracy.
Despite the editing QoS is another awesome entry.
And SF is the most beatiful movie of them all - Deakins should have won an Oscar for it and the overall style of the movie completely puts all it‘s flaws into the background.
SPECTRE as it is should be trimmed down to 60 Minutes and then it would be a decent entry to the series.
You're talking about the moment she throws the garter to him. Yes, Dalton handles that scene really well without saying anything!
I also love Moores reaction in TSWLM, when
Bach mentions his marriage, despite Bachs lousy acting, Moore is terrific here!
I agree CR v LALD is no contest.
I for one much prefer a Robin Askwith style farce with Bond hiding a bird from his boss in the wardrobe, a racist comedy sheriff dominating the film's key set piece and the villain embarrassingly being blown up like one of those sex dolls in that episode of Only Fools And Horses.
Elaborate please