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Me too. There's just something about it.
I'll go a step further and say I prefer it to that overrated mess starring Barry Nelson that treats Bond like Mike Hammer. Clarence Leiter?
Exactly.
And cause economic chaos in the west. You conveniently forgot that bit....
It’s my dream to see a blood stone style film in the vain of the two first Craig entries where bond isn’t old yet and is still a bad ass, they could still do it as a prequel...
Leaving after CR a bit strong but certainly a standalone in 2010 and then new Bond after SF reset things would've probably been a good move. Hasn't Dan pretty much said it himself that he wanted to leave on a high and probably wishes now he'd walked before SP tarnished his era somewhat?
I can't recall him explicitly saying anything about SP's impact on his era though (unless I missed something). He's only recently said that he wants to exit on a high and that the press has made him out to be an ingrate. Then again, he didn't have to say it as many do feel the last effort was anything but a 'high'.
+1. A total waste of Niven too.
That or DAF, or a mix of it.
A bit of black humor and kinky characters would do good.
Exactly. Watching a non-EON Bond isn t like cheating on yourgirlfriend.
I'd probably rank them '54 - NSNA - '67, but I do enjoy them all, and never feel like I'm "cheating" by watching and enjoying them. You got me into incorporating them into Bondathons, and I may have to add Becoming Bond whenever I do my next one.
It has a very distinctive 60s flair, the silliness that other 60s comedies have (The Party comes to mind) and even goes into musical territory.
As I dearly love all three elements, CR67 is a joy to watch for me.
I have no problems that Ian Fleming's Bond has been transformed to the screen as an outrageous comedy. No problems at all.
Bond can be many things. Cinematic adaptions of books can be a variation or very true to the nature of the novel.
Like CR67 for the very same reasons. I enjoy it more as a nice time capsule/60's comedy with spy elements more than a Bond adaptation. If you do that, you can enjoy it for what it is.
Cant argue with that. Although it would become a bit tragic if we start ditching a Bond actor after one good film to preserve his legacy as we have so little faith EON and their poor writing team to give him a worthy follow up.
Well by implication him saying he's coming back because he wants to go out on a high therefore suggests he doesn't consider SP to be a high.
You call playing against Lithuania and Malta qualifying? That group was made intentionally weak just so the English would stand a chance. Compare that to Bolivia who had to play Paraguay and Argentina..... And I didn't say they don't have a cinema. The fact that we both don't happe nto know who sponsors the main cinema in La Paz is our shortcoming, not theirs. It's probably bigger AND better then the Odeon anyway.
Ah, that's a pity, I was actually hoping you'd defend old Blighty. I had a whole bunch of insults lined up. Oh well, I'll use them next time...
I still think rescuing 11 million or so Bolivians is better then stopping some Americans having a drug habit or preventing Britain from a shortage of chickens, but I agree that Bond has played higher stakes. Still, that isn't the real threat and I do regret QoS wasn't more explicit in that department. It sure is too short and I think the writers' strike had something to do with that.
CR '67, I will never understand how anyone likes that film! And it's the same people who don't understand what's going on in QoS because of the shakey cam!?!?! After CR '67 I walk to the fridge to get the laundry out, it makes that much sense!
I'm watching QoS as we speak. Commenting on it in the other thread. It's a mixed bag between sheer Greatness and pure atrocity.
Luckily the Greatness drowns out the atrocity somewhat.
That would be a very strange mix. I once dreamt I saw a Bond movie with Sean Connery which was a mix of DAF and FRWL.
That is true in a way. Although more DAF than FRWL.
Oh you do make me chuckle old chap.
Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of FIFA knows that England and the English FA are universally despised. If it's countries being handed an easy passage you're looking for try France who benefitted from a convenient last minute rule change on the eve of the 2014 tournament because they were staring down the barrel of a group of death due to a poor qualification campaign.
Poor Bolivia do have it tough though being stuck in CONMEBOL qualifying where a mere 50% of teams qualify (well 40% and one team gets a play off v NZ - which in footballing terms is a flyspeck on a par with Bolivia itself) compared to UEFA where less than 25% of teams get to qualify.
And pitted against the might of Paraguay (didn't even qualify) too - they really had the odds stacked against them from the start! Handy little tip for you moving forwards - if you're trying to make a point about the strength of South American football it is usually prudent to mention Brazil at some point.
So why are they all standing in the town square then: Queuing for water perhaps from a pump in the middle of the square? Although no doubt you'll claim that was just despicable anti Bolivian propaganda by the West's lackey Forster and the reality in this latter day Eden all have Dom Perignon coming out of their taps?
I'm sure it is son. I'm sure it is.
Indeed a crying shame the world will now never get to hear your cutting Mcintyre-esque barbs about how shite the English are.
Hate to shatter the illusion Forster is peddling that the Bolivian population is all going to drop dead of thirst the next day but actually Medrano signed the deal with Greene to keep the water running. Bond's intervention had no effect either way on the average peasant who would wake up the next morning to find the water was running again if Medrano's coup had succeeded or not. The only difference being the government had to shell out a load of money if Quantum succeeded. The old women in funny hats were never in danger because Medrano is shrewd enough to realise if the population has no water he would soon be lynched in La Paz town square (well with no cinema they have to make their own entertainment I suppose) so he's always going to cut a deal.
If you think saving the Bolivian exchequer a lump of money to keep the taps on is high stakes then I'd love to see your definition of low stakes. Bond preventing the council demolishing a kid's playground to build a shopping centre?
The plot of QOS is about Bond's personal journey and closure over Vesper and the emergence of Quantum. The fate of Bolivia's drinking water is a Mcguffin not even on a par with the Solex in terms of anyone in the audience actually giving a toss.
Before we get chastised for derailing the thread however (perhaps you could start a 'Boliviaphiles and Anglophobes' thread?) I'd say I agree with your final sentence to be fair. Whilst I don't think it would have equalled or bettered CR, without the writer's strike the film could at least have been a very worthy followup. I certainly see it as more of a missed opportunity than an outright cock up (looking at you there SP).
"Excuse me, but are you Peter O'Toole?
"No."
*walks away*
In what possible way could that be funny? I have seen CR'67 twice (the second time was after a number of years, to see if my original feelings were wrong, they weren't), and I have no desire to ever return to it.
It may help if you got it correct. The actual O'Toole is marching with other bagpipers as Sellers is hallucinating and approaches the pipers. O'Toole pauses and asks Sellers "Are you Richard Burton?" to which he responds "No, I'm Peter O'Toole."
O'Toole then says "Well then you're the finest man that ever breathed." It's the irony of it all and the idea you get an unexpected cameo from one of the biggest stars in the world at the time. No, not gut-busting funny but very out there. CR '67 is filled with cameos from stars. Take it or leave it.
You can't tell me you were actually impressed by the qualification pool England ended up in. So I guess the hatret isn't that strong.. ;-)
Anyway, good idea to stop here, before you actually notice the country I'm from and start laughing out loud.... It sure is a pity thy didn't manage to get the threat of Quantum across better. It is, after all, the manipulation of Britain and the US that's the real threat. They could've gotten more out of i.e. the death of the bodyguard of the special envoy to the PM. But even Bond doesn't give it much attention even though M says he shot the guy at point blank range, which he didn't. He isn't fighting the manipulation at all, even though it's M, whom we may assume he trusts by now.