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Not so much soap opera as Agatha Christie, when a twist is brought in for its sake, regardless of characters believability.
I find Peter's criticism quite appropriate...and that doesn't change a bit just because you are also right about Agatha Christie (and others). Marvelously spoofed in Murder by Death. But a Bond movie shouldn't be soap opera, while Agatha always has a certain bit of that in it.
Elektra King should have been the main villain, I wonder if they were a bit scared to have a woman be the main villain so they had to force Renard in there.
They should have given her an imposing henchman to actually be a physical threat to Bond if King couldn't be it herself. Her henchmen in the movie also suck.
GE on the other hand still holds up for me very well. One of my favorites.
I've never been a fan of DAD, though. Not even when it came out.
Agatha Christie is not as much soap opera as gossip with cyanide. And to be fair to TWINE, Agatha Christie’s twists are often seen on tv and movies. But it was more blatant with Elektra.
@MaxCasino I’m not a hater. I just think it’s one of the most frustrating Bond movies.
Me, too...except that I'm always very reluctant to use the terms "hate" or "hater". It is a fact that when first watching DAD, I was kind of elated after the first half that was so much better than TWINE (certain scenes excluded). But boy, was I wrong when the second half came. It is this broken promise that keeps DAD at the very bottom of my ranking...albeit only 1/10 below TWINE.
I agree on the 'hater' term too. It's very one dimensional and hate is not an emotion I'm prone to. My comment was intended to be tongue in cheek and sarcastic, since the term was used above.
Neither of us are big Brosnan fans (as Bond) but after being bored through GE & TND, we actually really enjoyed this one.
That's a controversial opinion. May I ask why you enjoyed it more?
I really am not a fan of Goldeneye, I think it is very overrated, but I do understand why some people have a sentimental attachment to it to it to it being their first Bond, and others because it was the first Bond after such a big gap. But that, TLD and DAD would be in the bottom end of my Bond list.
Hahahahahaha. Elektra you slaaaaaaag!:-)
Oh you gotta love Mike Reid! Lol!
Peter Segal of Tommy Boy and a number of Adam Sandler films, says he met with Barbara Broccoli about doing a Bond film. Sounds like a Brosnan film. Since he is one of Adam Sandler's friends, I manage he would work with the producers well.
You do don't you.....a top geezer was Mike,bless him.
Nevertheless, there are many things to be appreciated in this entry:
- despite the ‘painface’ comments, I think it was Pierce’s most mature take on the character.
- Sophie Marceau. I repeat: Sophie Marceau.
- a plot that goes to a place where we have never quite been before: Bond falls in love with the villain.
- I am not the biggest fan of outrageous gadgets, but somehow they seem to work here for me, particularly love the credit card that contains a key.
- the Z8. Usually I am not a BMW fan, but the Z8 is gorgeous. Might as well have been an Italian car but for the badge.
- hands down, the best attire Bond has worn since the 60’s.
- Valentin Dmytrovich Zukovsky. This guy cracks me up everytime he’s on screen. Great final scene as well.
- David Arnold delivers a great score and Garbage a fine theme song.
- I like the MI6 scenes in Scotland as well: Q, R, the good doctor, M and Moneypenny. Tanner and Robinson both being present as well is a nice touch.
- speaking of MI6, I like the way they all work together here. Compare them to the recent Mendes Gang and I know which MI6 team I would pick.
- some of the oneliners fall a bit flat but I really like the sense of fun throughout. I smile quite a lot during TWINE.
So there you go, I conveniently leave out obvious shortcomings to emphasize its strenghts but I’d say there are more than reasons enough to like this entry.
Back then I didn't care about story, direction and performances. I only wanted some cool action with bondian music ;)
All excellent points! That’s why TWINE is #2 in my rankings.
Great points. Underrated movie.
Always love this shot. Valentin looking fly, Bond looking serious, and we can see the two biggest reasons Denise Richards was cast in this role.
Because she has deliciously big...eyes? It's the eyes, I'm guessing.
Turkeys done