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It didn't bother me at first, but as time goes on, it bothers me more and more. My one gripe about the Mendes films is Bond's background and personal history becoming too expansive. I don't mind the last 1/3 of Skyfall and the battle at the house. However that whole Bond history aspect should have ended there and not carry in Spectre.
You're not telling me that EON didn't want a complete change of direction after this 'Shark jumping' film.
DAD is comic book fluff. The script is one long quip. Not how you go about building
character.
The series required a re-think and overhaul, and we got one of the best films of the series as a result.
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Maybe not the main cause, but DAD did play its part. The main cause was The Bourne Identity, which made Bond look badly out of touch. I remember the press at the time, trying to build up a battle between Bond and xXx, and then along came Bourne, which wasn't seen as a threat, and shanked Bond good and proper.
I could be looking at my own reflection (with regards to your opinions on Lazenby, DAF, the Brosnan era, AWTD, QOS, and SF ;) )
My controversial opinion; Spectre, despite being an enormous wasted opportunity and all the ham fisted retconning, is still one of the more enjoyable Craig entries to watch.
*shields self*
DAD was NOT critically well received either if you actually look back at reviews of the time. The only difference between its release and now is that it’s reputation only got worse. TND and TWINE were also not critically received well too. It was only GE that had more favorable reviews.
I do have to give DAF credit for the Wint and Kidd epilogue; DAD and SP didn't have any moments that good in their third acts. Still, much of the stuff before that can be quite a drag. SP has its dull moments (mostly the third act), but for me personally moments like the PTS, Rome SPECTRE meeting, Mr. White's scene, and train fight are all worthy highlights. One moment I enjoyed in the theater a lot that I don't anymore is the snow chase in Austria which now feels like a rather tepid action sequence.
I remember Roger Ebert giving it a thumbs up on his show while his then co-host Richard Roeper had a facial reaction like “are you kidding me?”
If you go back to the rotten tomatoes for the Brosnan films at the time they came out on archive.org they were all very mixed in the 50% range. There were definitely critics who were kind to DAD, but it wasn’t as many as some conflate it to be. And this was months after the first Bourne film came out too.
I think that’s more accurate. The first Bourne was a hit, but not something you’d assume would encourage EON to switch gears. After all, Brosnan was still in the role as far as 2004 given the video game release. Once SUPREMACY came out and showed that this wasn’t just a fluke people started to take more notice of what was working for Bourne.
That plane sequence is so odd. I place Spectre at #1 in my rankings, but that sequence is one of the flattest in the series, and I'm not sure why.
It's superficially impressive looking, and certainly novel, but it just does nothing for me. It's not because I don't feel Bond is in danger, either, because that applies to most Bond action sequences. It's not the stupidity (trying to steer a sliding wingless plane) either, because stupidity is not all that rare in Bond action either. It's just pretty lifeless.
Maybe it's the Q chase sequence that goes on at the same time that overshadows it for me. I absolutely love that bit.
I agree, the scene does feel rather dull. I remember enjoying it a lot in the theater but on all my rewatches it's just so "meh." Also no offense, but putting SP at #1 is definitely a good controversial opinion!
Whether you like them or not the Bourne series gave Bond a much needed kick up the behind. They were serious, exciting spy thrillers where the protagonist relied on his wits instead of invisible cars. And the dialogue was actually how people talk, instead of an endless stream of quips and double entendres.
I am aware! :))
For what it’s worth Alexander Witt came back for NTTD, but neither Stuart Baird or Lee Smith. Instead it’s two with Tom Cross, who’s done EXCELLENT editing that earned him an Oscar with Whiplash and Eliot Graham who’s known for some comic book films, the standout in my opinion being X2 (the White House opening action piece is as good as it gets IMO).
Agreed that Thunderball is better then Goldfinger.
Lazenby was equivocally a better choice then Connery for OHMSS.
Diamons Are Forever is bad, but not that bad, despite being low on my list. It's an entertaining romp.
The Brosnan era was overrated, IMO. By far the worst of any of the Bond's tenures.
AWTD is awful.
Agreed that Skyfall is grossly overrated.
Spectre is terrible, but I wouldn't say it's the worst Bond film.
@CommanderRoss Oh I'm so glad I'm not the only one thinking making Paris Carver a former fling was superfluous at best!
Hopefully Madeleine works better as a former flame than as the love internet.
That's the issue with Paris: she's meant to have been significant and in the end her backstory is just an excuse for Bond to bed her faster.
it doesn't fit the character. Bond closes the book on anything in the past.
Sex with his ex for Queen and Country? Now there's an Austin Powers title if I ever saw one. And how many vodka's does he need to drink to bed her again?
I'm sorry, but it makes Bond look weak as can be. It's just not Bond. He wouldn't do that at all.
What was the name of the guy who wrote the 500 page Bond bible.....he basically said LALD "plays like a DC comic book"
I think AVTAK was ahead of its time , maybe people wouldve been more familiar with it had it been released in 1995 when computers really started to take off ?
To be fair, Fleming’s Bond constantly gets smitten with a new girl, and at the very least we learn that things got serious with Tiffany Case before it fell apart. So I don’t think Bond developing feelings is beyond the pale, and him pretty much abandoning her once he realized he was getting too attached fits in with a guy who when last got close to someone died.
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