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Agreed Wizard. This clip is a deleted scene, but I feel it emphasises the angle Dalton took in LTK. For some reason he seemed more inclined to draw on his Derbyshire roots than he did in TLD.
Fast forward to 1:20 for Dalton does the Dales
I was referring to your bollocks being crushed rather than the noise pollution. But I suppose there are jobs where that's contractual. Are sure you dont work in Old Compton St?
Naturally the Soho district is exempt from any EU law that enforces careful wang handling.
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It's a shame you got castigated for that one. Initially there were arguments that could be made for this theory when you consider that the film's opening in black and white practically invites that thought combined with CR being the original Bond novel. That was my initial impression as well, but the strongest theory of all for it being a reboot is that it's obviously not a "period piece" and has been thoroughly updated complete with poker in place of baccarat and other more modern innovations. And that EON has since acknowledged that a reboot it is, so you can't much argue for this theory. In the context of Vesper though, it does give Bond's reluctance to give up his bachelor's taste for freedom in OHMSS some meaningful background.
Well here's my controversial opinion: I love TB and never find it dull one moment. In fact I find it in many ways superior to Goldfinger.
Please expand on this theory.
Though to do typing on the phone, but anyway, Bond is much more proactive in TB, the relationship between main Bond girl and him more central in the plot and instrumental to his antagonism with Largo, and I found the hijacking of the nukes meticulous and plausible. I love Goldfinger too, but I prefer TB.
You put up a reasonable defence but hardly watertight.
Yes Bond is more proactive once he gets to the Bahamas but the entire plot hinges entirely on the fact that Bond goes to the same hospital as Angelo. If Bond dodges the poker in the PTS then he spends the whole film with the Mounties and Group Captain Pritchard. Thats just poor plotting so I think it evens out Bond spending half of GF locked up.
I'll give you that the Domino relationship is more integral - or at least it should be. Dont know what it is about Auger - shes gorgeous and everything - but she always comes off as less than the sum of her parts for me. I'd much rather have Luciana even though Claudine is the more beautiful. I can imagine Luciana would be wild in bed whilst Claudine comes across that she might be a bit of a plank of wood. So what should be the key dramatic scene in the film (the revelation that Largo topped her brother) always falls flat to me. Sean doesnt help looking bored out of his mind, his toupee appearing about to blow off and for some reason sporting those massive sunglasses.
The hijacking is as you say 'meticulous' and is certainly a good scene - until the plane is ditched and then it drags on for another 10 minutes. I swear watching those blokes hammer pegs into that net proves Einstein's theory of relativity - I have lost decades of my life watching that scene. Particularly given that there was so much underwater stuff still to come you would think they would have chopped down what they could.
Where is the pizzazz of GF? TB just seems like flat champagne compared with GF's sparkling vintage. Theres a definite sense of after the Lord Mayors show. I get the same with QOS after CR.
But Bond being at Shrubland was also in the novel. Yes it is coincidence and obviously convenient one, but it is the kind of coincidence one finds in fiction.
Maybe Domino is etheral and not wild, but I always thought it was the point of the character: dominated, literally, by a possessive Largo. And the courting of Domino and rivalry between Bond and Largo have more dimension than the late appearance of Pussy Galore in Goldfinger. Again, I love the movie, but I just love this aspect of TB more.
As for the very long hijack scene. Again, I don't mind, I wouldn't expect such operation to be short. One of the problems with many villain's schemes in the movies is that always seem to run very quickly, whatever the meticulous preparation they need. In TB, the long scenes makes it all the more believable to me.
That's a sound analogy.
Things can be shown as being meticulous without the need for a live stream of the entire process. While TB isn't quite that bad it's unmistakably flabby. I can only assume complacency on the part of the creative team ie. 'We made GF, whatever we do, people will love', combined with a clear obsession on the part of McClory to include as much underwater photography as possible. Give a clean copy of TB to a decent editor, plus a full soundtrack and I bet they'd make a slicker, ultimately better version.
But did that ultimately have anything to do with the plot? I dont think it hinges upon it as it does in the film.
Its a few years since I've read TB (not one of my favourites in any medium) but isnt the Shrublands scene just about Bonds fight with Lippe? Doesnt the chapter end with something along the lines of 'no one was to know but this duel between these two tough men had imperceptibly delayed a crime that was about to shake the world.'
How did Bond get onto Largo and Domino in the book? I cant quite recall. But the whole Angelo/doubles thing is an invention for the screen.
In the book dont they just send Bond after her because Petacchi was dodgy?
Can anyone set me straight here?
There was no fight with Lippe in the novel. Beside in the film, in the PTS he fight Bouvar and it is not in any way related to Shrubland or the main plot, other than Bouvar is also from SPECTRE.
There was also a thematic reason to the Shrubland episode in the novel: to contrast Bond's pleasure seeking and excessive lifestyle to Blofeld's puritanism.
More of a coincidence in the novel, I think. Bond is sent to Shrubland, he just happens to find the protagonists of his future mission. And it is M who sends him to his assignment, out of intuition. A good reasoning, but still very intuitive. At least in the movie he goes to Nassau because he saw Derval lying dead when he was supposed to be alive and well.
3-4 scene's i have liked to be used. The sharky moment, whyle my first thinking whas Bond be a litle bit to relax whe he smoking. More Milton Krest with Thunderball boat/shipping (in specialy i like the begining when the camera have some distance and the sound of the sea.), give more inside of this chacter and location. I must think about my wish to see more of Vesper-Bond relation in CR too. The thing with Island, i must think a bit about Goldeneye with that. Another one, but i have same doubt as John Glenn be shadowman, again it show more location and it explain more who some chacters be but like asian guy scene in Casino it mabey created more quistion about the chacters. Mabey it give the movie bit more like FYEO with using 3 of them and made the movie les gritty, Bond more human. From that view i also can understand in the more violence style of the final movie there not used it. But from the view of Glenn his earlier movies and then i mean in specialy TSWLM, FYEO and TLD i don't.
Iam happy that media thing in some hotelroom not be used, to loud and spoiled the moment of the leiter, exept mabey the part of that gun out if his drink.
http://www.empireonline.com/features/casting-controversies/p6
-- Never been that impressed with Ursula Andress. Her character makes a memorable entrance. Other than that, she's a run-of-the-mill Bond Girl.
-- Not a huge fan of Shirley Bassey. I feel that they really should have gone with Sinatra for 'Moonraker.' I have always been and remain opposed to the idea of bringing DSB back for a fourth.
-- Donald Pleasance's Blofeld is a joke. Mike Myers barely had to change anything in order to adapt the character to full-fledged comedy. Telly's Blofeld is vastly superior, even if his Mid-Atlantic accent isn't thick enough for some people's taste.
-- DAF would have been better with Rog than with Sean.
-- Rog, not Sean, has been the definitive Bond in the public imagination for at least the last 30 years (Dan may be on the verge of changing things, though).
-- LALD is one of the most fantastically entertaining entries in the series.
-- Stromberg is not a particularly impressive villain, little more than a second-rate Blofeld stand-in.
-- FYEO may well be the best of Rog, and Sheena Easton's song is also highly enjoyable.
-- The wackiness of OP is tons of fun, even if it has little to do with Fleming.
-- I'm actually kind of fond of Boris Grishenko. I wish he had survived so he could have come back for TND instead of that boring Henry Gupta character.
-- Conversely, I'm not that impressed with the other GE bad guys. Alec "Janus" Trevelyan is a subtle rip-off of the Batman villain Two-Face. General Orumov is the least interesting of the various Evil Russian Military Officers that have appeared in the series. Xenia Onatopp takes the Femme Fatale concept to such ridiculous extremes that she seems to anticipate the Austin Powers movies.
-- I enjoy watching Jonathan Pryce chew the scenery to tiny bits.
-- DAD is not without its charms.
-- QOS is a pretty decent Bond film.
I love Honey, she's one of my favorites. Honey is iconic. There were more interesting Bond girls to come later, but I dunno exactly why, I just like her a lot.
Bassey's okay. Nancy Sinatra is awesome, so yeah. Maybe you're right.
Pleasence might be my favorite Blofeld actually, along with Savales. I think he was just under-utilized in YOLT.
Would have been better with Lazenby than either of them.
True. But most feel Sean is the best...and at least part of that is because he was first and established Bond on film.
LALD for me is at least the most fantastically entertaining Roger Moore entries. Otherwise....eh, not too shabby.
Totally agree.
Easton's song isn't too bad. FYEO is Rog's third best for me, after LALD and TSWLM.
A few parts here and there are fun, I guess. Otherwise, OP for me is one of the worst entries.
Nah, disagree on the return of Boris part. But the character in GE was pretty fun I guess.
I used to really like Alec as a villain...not so much anymore. Sean Bean is awesome though, maybe it's a writing problem.
I still love Onatopp though. I love that she's ridiculous. Can't compare to Fiona Volpe in the black widow department, though.
I don't. I mean, it's kinda unintentionally funny, but that's all.
Yeah, it's charming as all hell when the movie finally ends.
ABSOLUTELY! I really like QOS.
I agree with pretty much everything else you said!
Personally, I hate the idea of having a new Bond and a new Blofeld for three films in a row. If you dropped Blofeld as the villain then maybe.
TLD is not all that great
The Lotus is cooler than the Aston Martin
There's nothing wrong with Nick Nack - I still quite like him
Tanya Roberts really wasn't that bad - there's a few Bond Girls I'd rank below her
Agree with you there.
As for Roberts. She really was that bad but there were more actresses worse than her.
That's actually a pretty good observation.
I wonder if a younger Moore and a younger Lois might have had some more chemistry, say in the 60s. By the time LALD was filmed, I found Lois more of a sweet lady rather than a gorgeous girl.
Also, to add to the comment that Lazenby/Maxwell had the most chemistry, I'm going to give the opinion that Moore/Maxwell had ZERO chemistry.