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Congrats, and bravo on the Bond watch along.
I'd have never guessed from your (excellent) username! :D
Yeah I think you've certainly got a point about Octopussy: it is a bit schizophrenic. Sometimes out-and-out comedy, sometimes extremely tense cold war drama. I like it, but Glen maybe doesn't combine the elements as deftly as Lewis Gilbert did.
A bit of me wonders if maybe Guy Hamilton had just one good Bond film in him.
Congrats DarthDimi!
I've often thought about this. DAF, LALD & TMWTGG are not even close to GF in any respect. Is this the fault of Hamilton? Or can it be blamed on scriptwriters, producers who were getting more and more hostile with each other?
Perhaps the Bond mania bubble had burst after Connery's departure with YOLT. Too much inconsistency with the series maybe.
I used to find the Hamilton trilogy of the early 70's the weakest entries, and less watchable. But over time, I've come to appreciate them more, yes they're not always well made, well scripted and sometimes look cheap. But they're a film of their times, quirky, fun and generally very watchable.
Hamilton himself has said in an interview that he only returned because he liked the idea of introducing a new Bond. Then Gavin was suddenly out, and Connery was back. He did however get his wish in the next film, LALD. Then, for TMWTGG, he said he returned because he really wanted to return to the Far East.
It’s probably my least favourite Connery but il take it over a depressing experience like QOS anyday.
Thanks, guys! And yes, I'm trying my best to turn her to our Bond fandom, but I'm afraid that won't happen soon. She liked Dalton and she enjoys the Craigs, but she prefers the looks of Brosnan. ;-) She doesn't understand the perceived handsomeness of Connery... which is a statement quite befitting of this thread. :-)
Has she seen Thunderball though? I think I'd think twice about my membership of the straight club if I'd met him in the Bahamas on that one(!)
I failed with my wife. So far the one and only Bond she liked was CR.
DAF is miles ahead of NSNA for its sharpness alone. Such a fun movie. If you view it through the lens of a FRWL you'll be disappointed, but view it as the black/dark comedy that it is and you'll see it's a grand time.
The only thing that really disappoints is the climax. If that had matched up with what the poster promised, it might have bumped up to an 8/10 for me.
Not exactly my preferred style of spy adventure, and Vegas is such a bore.
DAF is dead last for me.
And they really should have used Fleming's diamonds in golf balls at some point.
Here is what I’ve concluded:
- after waving the Connery banner my whole life, and then questioning my beliefs after Dalton came along, I have realized that Brosnan is the best. Something about him; he has the perfect blend of cruelty, ruthlessness, charm and confidence. He commands my attention in every scene. He is Bond.
- I like DAD and don’t get the hate. Ok an invisible car, so what? I bet it’s not that far off. They way Q (R?) explained it makes sense in theory at least. Surfing a tidal wave? Ok it looks silly but only lasts a minute or two.
- Roger was better than I remembered and I think TSWLM is his best. I even liked AVTAK. But JW Pepper sucks ass! 😂
- DAF was worse than I remembered. I mean really bad. I dare say the worst, but I still need to rewatch the Craig films and I recall not liking QOS.
Cheers!
Khan. Kamal Khan
I think that's totally fair enough. I personally wouldn't say Brosnan is the best, but he is a really good film star and works extremely well in these movies.
Let us know your reaction to the Craigs!
The man was just gifted when it came to matching the music to the scene, whether it's a country or underwater or military-related or a chase in a moon buggy. It's why so many of today's Bond scores are disappointing because he set such a high standard and these don't come close.
I agree. There are moments in the Craig films which IMO are just crying out for DAF’s Wint and Kidd riff or something like it.
I like the bit where Connery laughs to himself at the absurdity of the moon buggy going forward and responding to his pressing of the buttons. He definitely has fun with the Bond role in this film as that's what the script requires. I also disagree with those who say Connery looks tired and bored in this film. And you're quite right, there is a kind of Loony Tunes vibe throughout the whole film. The mentions of Acme and Bambi and Thumper merely reinforce this cartoonish motif in the film.
Also Connery is not bored whatsoever. YOLT vs. this performance is night and day.
Not to mention being able to shag Jill and Lana off set, playing golf and hanging out in Vegas. I can always look at it as a one off film. He doesn't even really play James Bond in much of it.
I think the "spy craze" and the many imitators and parodies (Max Helm, etc.) pushed Eon in this direction. From a box office standpoint, they were afraid to do something as downbeat as OHMSS (even as The Godfather, The Exorcist et al were all the rage), so more humorous and ironic was the path they chose.
Controversial opinion?: the first big drop in title song quality was All Time High. The second was Another Way To Die.
I think I remember a review or commentator in a book on the Bond films saying something like that. DAFT is what they'd call it where I'm from. Plus, didn't Bond and Felix Leiter have a discussion in one of the Fleming novels about how the word is "daffy" in the US? It might even have been in DAF...