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We agree it doesn’t work here, especially because he’s just fallen ostensibly in love. Also, note that this is the section where Diana Rigg is absent. No one to carry Lazenby here. So it lags. Until the action
It’s the cat petting that really did it. ;)
Not sure I agree. I think the "All the Time in the World" montage is meant to do a lot of heavy lifting to suggest that this is absolutely something beyond Bond's typical relationship with a woman.
For example, when she shows up when all appears to be lost at the ice rink. This is the first we've seen of her since the montage, and it's before the barn scene. They have very little time together between the montage and the barn scene. At the ice rink The framing, Lazenby's attempt at a revelatory expression, etc. they all suggest something much beyond attraction/casual romance
We'll have to disagree here. I think Bond is, at the very least, falling for her in a way he hasn't with most other women.
Yeah I agree: Tracy falls for him first and then he falls for her when she saves him in Switzerland. She even says she knows as much to her father in the back of the Rolls earlier in the film.
Glad to see Sanchez getting some overdue recognition. He's been underrated for some time. More complex than your average megalomaniac who populates the series.
And Ruby is hilarious! Hunt definitely knew to surround Lazenby with good actors.
I think I'm in the minority but I prefer Irma Bunt to Rosa Klebb.
Even the most intelligent people can act foolishly when they are charmed by an alluring woman.Never had any problem believing Blofeld would fall for Traceys ruse.
Mary Goodnight on the other hand...well I think even she would fail to fool Blofeld.
That's one to ponder. Both are very much alike and directly involved in the action. Klebb disappears for the middle section and shows fear when it all comes down. Bunt is cunning and not afraid to supervise the minions. It did make me curious as to her whereabouts when Draco and his men invade Piz Gloria. And to possibly nail it, she's literally the one who pulls the trigger that shatters Bond's world.
Echo, you just may have swayed me to your side on this.
I think bringing her back is a cool idea.
In my head canon,she’s the one who breaks Blofeld out of prison shortly before Bonds wedding.I know some have mentioned how it seems like Bond didn’t check to see Blofeld was dead after the bobsleigh chase,but I always assumed they brought him in to custody shortly afterwards.
I also agree with bringing her back. She’s the one villain ally in general who could be a great main villain in their own right. Two names that I can think of to play her would be Diane Lane and Winona Ryder. Not the biggest names, but they could be effective. Along with Blofeld, she is one of the top 5 villains I would bring back. The other 3 are Goldfinger, Mr. Big and Alec Trevelyan.
I think they should wait with Bunt. Sooner or later they will want to reintroduce Blofeld and SPECTRE, that is more or less inevitable. I just hope they have the sense to wait for a while and don't rush it. And in that case Bunt is the perfect career to introduce the organization with. Let's say we discover her in the first film and her boss in the second.
I’ve always found it quite clumsy: Tracy doesn’t want to see Bond, she runs off, he wipes her face and says a platitude, -montage- she’s head over heels in love with him.
It just feels like it replaces a believable progression in their relationship with ‘and now she loves him’ to me. Bond falling in love with her is a bit more better-handled.
No I do think it's out of character. I always imagined him puritanical anyway. Even his smoking in movies irks me somewhat.
Ooh that is a good point, I kind of agree with that.
Would he agree with having a lovely little pet cat? :)
That's a fair point too. I think he's an excellent villain but you're probably right that he's not much like the Blofeld from the books or the one we know so far. I don't mind though.
I pretty much agree with you. CR was a much deserved critical and popular success, but it's not perfect. The film's structure is broken-backed and the acts fit together awkwardly. The problem stems from adapting a hardboiled noir novel, with a bitter ending, into a modern action film. The sinking building is problematic for all the reasons you've given, and the end of Bond and Vesper's relationship felt more tragic in the book.
After its initial crisis (Vesper’s horrified reaction when Bond reveals he was going to propose is heartbreaking in retrospect), the relationship seems to right itself; there is the poignant final night (“Look at me,’ she said, ‘and let me look at you’”) and then the horrible shock the next day, followed by the even greater shock of Bond’s feelings for her disappearing at the end—a shock the movie throws away when Bond learns of Vesper’s perfidy before her death and even threatens to kill her. The film ends with Bond standing victorious over a villain Vesper posthumously helped him catch, whereas the book ends with Bond impotent and defeated and shouting hatred into a phone.
I suppose even in the late 2000s Fleming’s ending would have been just too dark and downbeat for a mass audience.
Switching topics, I don't think Roger Moore would have done well in OHMSS. He would have had zero chemistry with Diana Rigg and she would have made him look lightweight and artificial. Lazenby worked decently well alongside of her because Hunt used the old tactic of placing a professional with an amateur, with the latter's spontaneity complementing the former's polish. His natural cockiness and unselfconscious physical assurance clicked with her hauteur and inner fire. Roger would have come off as brittle, coy, and cold next to Rigg, in the same way David Niven (the previous generation's Roger Moore) would have looked stagy alongside an actress of equivalent strength. And looking over Moore's films, it's interesting how often he fails to connect with the lead actresses--not entirely his fault, since most of the actresses in his Bond films aren't particularly good. He has a decent connection with Maud Adams in OP, but she was not an actress anywhere on Rigg's level. If she was, she would have probably blown him off the screen.
I'm not sure you can know that. It's not exactly like Pat Macnee was an incredible thespian who was way above Moore's level, and she managed to create an engaging screen partnership pretty well with him without blowing him off the screen.