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Correct. Outside of Connery, Brosnan has the best introduction of any Bond. The Dam jump is the last great, truly iconic stunt. There have been some brilliant action scenes in the Craig era, but nothing tops the sheer audaciousness of the dam jump. Classic Bond.
Nice to see someone who agrees with me.
After 6 years away, I can't think of anything that could have topped the bungee jump. Pure Bond.
The one-liner isn't great, but the dam jump more than makes up for it. The only two that are close are Connery's and Craig's. Connery probably wins for originating four traditions at the same time, but the dam jump just edges out Craig's cold confrontation and killing of Dryden.
Chemin de fer ;-)
I don't think its the best but I've never had any problems with it.
With regards to introduction, most of the others are too dark, or poorly lit. Maybe that adds some intrigue or mystery to some, but doesn't always work for some viewers. Moore is in bed in a dark room, Lazenby is unclear in his car, Brosnan is shadowed until he meets Trevelyan and Craig is sat in a corner in a dark room in the Czech Republic. Only Dalton offers more light on the character at the Gibraltar training exercise and we get an almost instant introduction to Bond, as with Connery in '62, but as mentioned, all the others, a bit too hidden away in the shadows and we only get to see their respective Bonds over time and things are left a little mysterious
Brosnan's intro, from the moments before and until the dam jump, is amazing. Then the moment when he is upside down in a Soviet toilet is a bit crass, but not to the point to completely spoil what happened before. Still, I prefer the CR intro. Interestingly enough they both feature toilets.
funny thing is he was absolutely right. Before Elektra maximum thing we've got was Ms. Volpe, who was just a henchmen. All the other Women were just good to provide Bond with an opportunity to get rid of some steam (so to speak).
sure. Bond defying gravity and plot premise that leads you nowhere when you start thinking about it. No wonder so many here like it!
But the jump is great, no question about it!
Including Rosa Klebb? OOh, my brain is melting just thinking about it. No offence, Lotte.
The main complaint people seem to have is "too techno", but apart from the title song that's really not true. TWINE sounded more techno.
I don't think it's Arnold's best soundtrack but I do like it and I still think, apart from LALD, it's above all the non Barry/Arnold scores (yeah that includes SF and no I don't care that it was nominated for an Oscar).
I agree to all these points.
Herrrmmm... Rosa Klebb? Irma Bunt?
Add Xenia Onatopp to that.
You absolutely got me there. But getting rid of steam or not, she also happens to be just a henchman (albeit a rather elevated one) and insofar I judge Apteds comment as 100% correct.
Maybe (I hope) Apted was referring not to the characters' artistic value, but to their relative power in the world of the films. Irma Bunt was only a henchman as well. While Klebb is pretty clearly the main villain in FRWL, she was still working for Blofeld. I'd argue that Elektra is the first true supervillain, defined as the mastermind of the evil plan, and not reporting to anyone else. No matter how memorable characters such as Klebb, Bunt, and Volpe are, they are still employees of a more powerful villain.
SRosa Klebb is not just an henchwoman though, she is the field commander in FRWL and with Grant the main antagonist of Bond. In the plot, she is at least as important as Elektra is in TWINE, if not more. She certainly is far more threatening. And in any case, Apted was wrong: there are female villains in Bond, credible ones, since the Fleming novels.
But you could argue that both Volpe and Onatopp were far more memorable than Largo and Trevelyan.
Mind you all, we're talking about superiors here. You know those who call the shots and not those who do the shooting.
A valid point, but I consider main villains and henchmen separately, so as much great as Oddjob and Jaws are, they won't be on a list of best villains. Obviously, they'd have the henchmen list all to themselves, but the distinction remains.
Still she gets executed while reporting (!) to Blofeld. In TWINE Elektra is the top of the food chain (well, at least among the baddies). Don't forget, that Renard prepares to die for her towards the climax.
Agreed. Easily the most overrated PTS. The PTSs of GE and TND, OTOH, are rather underrated, IMO.
Agreed. Yes, the Russian crapper is a pretty grody place for Bond to be. But hey, being Bond isn't ALL world-class casinos and Michelin starred restaurants.
No she doesn't. She is killed by Tania in Venice. And during the whole movie, she is the primary antagonist with Grant. So what if Elektra is on top of the food chain? She is still not nearly as menacing or creepy as Klebb.
True. And let's not forget that Bond in the novel OHMSS wrote down a list of Blofeld's angels of death using his own urine.