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A potential James Bond TV series

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  • sirseanisbondsirseanisbond
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    I've been re-reading the original novels again, and the more I read, the more I really want to see an HBO, or a Netflix try to making a period piece show based on the books. I really think that with a high budget, some clever expansive writing, and the right cast, a TV show where each season is one novel could be amazing. It would really allow them to try and make a compelling, slow-burning drama which does not have to fit the box-office Bond format which seems to be getting a bit tired now.

    This would really fit in to the Netflix production format, but HBO may be an even better choice, seeing as they are fast approaching a content cliff once Game of Thrones wraps up in two or three years. What do other people think? Could it work? Would you like to see a TV drama that strictly sticks to the novel time period and expands on their stories?
  • tanaka123tanaka123
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    sirseanisbond wrote: »
    I've been re-reading the original novels again, and the more I read, the more I really want to see an HBO, or a Netflix try to making a period piece show based on the books. I really think that with a high budget, some clever expansive writing, and the right cast, a TV show where each season is one novel could be amazing. It would really allow them to try and make a compelling, slow-burning drama which does not have to fit the box-office Bond format which seems to be getting a bit tired now.

    This would really fit in to the Netflix production format, but HBO may be an even better choice, seeing as they are fast approaching a content cliff once Game of Thrones wraps up in two or three years. What do other people think? Could it work? Would you like to see a TV drama that strictly sticks to the novel time period and expands on their stories?

    I've been saying for years that a period piece TV series should be made. The BBC have done radio adaptations, why not now move to the small screen?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Agreed, a few period adventures would be fantastic.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    personally in terms of telivision I would actually like a young bond series... or perhaps bond in Military intelligence showing us an earlier time of 007 but without dealing with what the films are going through...

    I think a few seasons with bond moving up the ranks to Commander and being apart of various military intelligence would be kind of cool. Actually if they took the idea Michael G wilson originally had for the lving daylights it could be quite cool...


    Bond in military intelligence works with an older 007 (insert random name here) to eventually become a 00 himself. sort of a mix between Spy games and the classic higson young bond novels.
  • RC7RC7
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    No market for these things IMO.
  • sirseanisbondsirseanisbond
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    RC7 wrote: »
    No market for these things IMO.

    Are you so sure? I think that putting James Bond on TV would draw a huge audience, and as long as the show delivered a fun first season, they could make it work. Ideally they would start with Casino Royal being that its the first book, but maybe they skip it because its so similar to the movie and start right off with Live and Let Die?
  • daltondalton
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    I'd be all for it. I've been calling for HBO or Showtime (and now maybe Netflix) to get on this for years now. They could adapt some of the Fleming novels that haven't been properly adapted by EON and then use some of the screen time to tell original stories set during that original time frame.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited May 2016 Posts: 15,723
    Hell, if there were to be seperate 'universes' for Bond, one cinematic and one on television, I would pay big money to see a HBO/Netflix miniseries on an older Bond coming out of retirement for one final mission. Starring Timothy Dalton as James Bond, of course.

    I'm sure @MajorDSmythe would approve.
  • daltondalton
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Hell, if there were to be seperate 'universes' for Bond, one cinematic and one on television, I would pay big money to see a HBO/Netflix miniseries on an older Bond coming out of retirement for one final mission. Starring Timothy Dalton as James Bond, of course.

    I would pay big money for that as well.

    I think EON should give that idea some consideration themselves, bringing Dalton back for a one-off to put some distance between the Craig films and whatever is to come afterward.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    @dalton I'm sure someone out there in the movie/TV business shares this idea. Even if the end product wouldn't have James Bond in it, Timothy Dalton must get his chance in the current trend of older actors in revenge/action films. He turned, what, 70 this year? He could have his own action movie trilogy before he hits 78 years of age. Just thinking about this sends shivers down my spine.
  • daltondalton
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    Completely agreed. He needs his own Taken. I think there would be a market for it as well, given the popularity of those Neeson films as well as the fact that Dalton has done a couple of well-received TV projects over the past few years (guest appearance on Chuck and Penny Dreadful).
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    Hell, if there were to be seperate 'universes' for Bond, one cinematic and one on television

    You say "separate universes" as if the concept of alternate Bond universes is alien. There's a literary universe, a video game universe, a movie universe - actually, two movie universes, with the Connery-Brosnan films and the Craig films - so an alternate TV universe wouldn't be out of the ordinary or alien for Bond. It's something that EON needs to consider, as it would only be more money for them.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    My Bond "Universes" Connery to Moore. The Bond in Dr. No is the same as A View to a Kill. Dalton and Brosnan. The Bond in Living Day Lights is the same as in Die Another Day, and finally there is Craig's.
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    talos7 wrote: »
    My Bond "Universes" Connery to Moore. The Bond in Dr. No is the same as A View to a Kill. Dalton and Brosnan. The Bond in Living Day Lights is the same as in Die Another Day, and finally there is Craig's.

    A lot of people look at it that way. My point is that the concept of "universes" to Bond isn't alien, and EON would make sh*ttons of money on a Bond TV series.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited May 2016 Posts: 15,723
    @Agent007391 I agree with you, but I meant 2 actors portraying Bond in separate timelines at the same time, say if Bond 25 and season 2 of the Bond tv show would both come out in 2018.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited May 2016 Posts: 9,020
    An out of retirement Bond with Brosnan would work as well.
    In both cases (Dalton, Brosnan) it was a missed opportunity to continue with those actors.
    Both could have been Bond to this day.
  • FLeiterFLeiter
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    This is such a bad idea on so many levels. You don't want to dilute the Bond franchise by having some old, old Bond on tv, when you're going to introduce a newer Bond on the big screen. Plus, who is exactly the audience? An older audience isn't watching a 'Young James Bond' series and a younger audience wasn't even born when Timothy Dalton was Bond. Most important, who would finance it? Big studios are downsizing and money is drying up. Many of the Top 10 tv shows in the U.S.A. are non-scripted talent or reality shows.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    FLeiter wrote: »
    Many of the Top 10 tv shows in the U.S.A. are non-scripted talent or reality shows.

    True, but also, some of the best television to be found in any country is on, and produced for, U.S cable networks.

  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Perhaps like the Marvel Universe, we could have an expanded Bond universe ? ;)
    Adventures with Felix Leiter, who has Bionic limbs !
    Miss Moneypenny and Tanner as a sort of Steed and Mrs Peel.
    :D
  • sirseanisbondsirseanisbond
    edited May 2016 Posts: 2,189
    FLeiter wrote: »
    This is such a bad idea on so many levels. You don't want to dilute the Bond franchise by having some old, old Bond on tv, when you're going to introduce a newer Bond on the big screen. Plus, who is exactly the audience? An older audience isn't watching a 'Young James Bond' series and a younger audience wasn't even born when Timothy Dalton was Bond. Most important, who would finance it? Big studios are downsizing and money is drying up. Many of the Top 10 tv shows in the U.S.A. are non-scripted talent or reality shows.

    I agree the grizzled old Bond idea is not a very good one, at least for a TV show, and neither is a "Young Bond", although a WWII Bond story could be interesting.

    No, what I'm suggesting is a period piece drama which holds strongly to the books and expands on each story so that each novel can be made to flesh out an entire 10 to 13 episode season. The idea would not be to make this a headliner on a major network like NBC, CBS, ABC. More likely it would find a home on HBO or Netflix where viewership does not have to be tops in order to keep the show going.

    I'd like to see someone take this approach precisely because it would not be dictated by box-office appeal or made to fit a standard TV or Film mold. I want a slow burning well acted drama which is less dictated by wild action and spectacle, and more focused on the characters of Bond, M, Felix Lighter, and the girls which Bond becomes involved with.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
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    sirseanisbond wrote: »
    FLeiter wrote: »
    This is such a bad idea on so many levels. You don't want to dilute the Bond franchise by having some old, old Bond on tv, when you're going to introduce a newer Bond on the big screen. Plus, who is exactly the audience? An older audience isn't watching a 'Young James Bond' series and a younger audience wasn't even born when Timothy Dalton was Bond. Most important, who would finance it? Big studios are downsizing and money is drying up. Many of the Top 10 tv shows in the U.S.A. are non-scripted talent or reality shows.

    I agree the grizzled old Bond idea is not a very good one, at least for a TV show, and neither is a "Young Bond", although a WWII Bond story could be interesting.

    No, what I'm suggesting is a period piece drama which holds strongly to the books and expands on each story so that each novel can be made to flesh out an entire 10 to 13 episode season. The idea would not be to make this a headliner on a major network like NBC, CBS, ABC. More likely it would find a home on HBO or Netflix where viewership does not have to be tops in order to keep the show going.

    I'd like to see someone take this approach precisely because it would not be dictated by box-office appeal or made to fit a standard TV or Film mold. I want a slow burning well acted drama which is less dictated by wild action and spectacle, and more focused on the characters of Bond, M, Felix Lighter, and the girls which Bond becomes involved with.

    *Felix Leiter*
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    See you leiter, alligeiter.
  • RC7RC7
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    Illuminating.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    ... until they go wrong .
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Thunderpussy wrote: »
    ... until they go wrong .



    =))
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    The TV series maybe ok. ONLY if it was a period piece and Fleming's books were filmed to the letter. Otherwise, no and pointless.
  • RC7RC7
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    The TV series maybe ok. ONLY if it was a period piece and Fleming's books were filmed to the letter. Otherwise, no and pointless.

    Never going to happen.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    I've always though a good animated series, of the Short stories would be
    interesting. Even using the audio from the bbc radio plays.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    RC7 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    The TV series maybe ok. ONLY if it was a period piece and Fleming's books were filmed to the letter. Otherwise, no and pointless.

    Never going to happen.

    The 'rights' would be a major issue too.
  • tanaka123tanaka123
    edited May 2016 Posts: 4,325
    suavejmf wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    The TV series maybe ok. ONLY if it was a period piece and Fleming's books were filmed to the letter. Otherwise, no and pointless.

    Never going to happen.

    The 'rights' would be a major issue too.

    Yes, it can only happen right now if Eon and MGM were behind it. Although they could do it in Canada.
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