"Back of the net!": The Football Thread

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  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Harry Kane did a Ian Wright when he was about to hit 100 goals.
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    Penalty missed by Kane! Lost another two points there…1-1 is a better result for Arsenal fans, though.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Amazing by Salah
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    Salah scores again! That was a brilliant one!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Brilliant goal
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    ANOTHER PENALTY?!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    Harry Kane showed balls credit to him
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    edited February 2018 Posts: 25,109
    Result suits our teams
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    2-2 was a good result indeed, but seeing Sp*rs get two penalties makes me sick no matter what!
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Time for all penalties in the box to be reviewed. Period. And if a player goes down w/o contact, it's a five-game suspension. I'm sick of this crap.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    2-2 was a good result indeed, but seeing Sp*rs get two penalties makes me sick no matter what!

    No, what we just witnessed was an embarrassment.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    That second penalty seemed soft
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    TripAces wrote: »
    Time for all penalties in the box to be reviewed. Period. And if a player goes down w/o contact, it's a five-game suspension. I'm sick of this crap.

    Was there even contact on the first one? My stream went down just as the replay started.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    If Liverpool hit three or four which they are capable of they have a chance of winning, I hate agreeing with press and pundits though Liverpool can't manage games under Klopp.

    Pretty standard stuff. We have to score 3 minimum to have a chance of winning. Harry slots the first pen and we lose 3-2.

    Jamie Redknapp bang on: Karius diabolical on the first.

    And even 2 mins too long to be able to see a game out. Every week same over and over again. I'm not even joking now - why not hire Pulis as defensive coach?

    The Egyptian Maradona (shades of Diego on the second) not going to hang around much longer with that behind him undoing his food work.

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    Just saw a replay now (finally). Wasn't the first one offside?
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
    edited February 2018 Posts: 4,585
    If Liverpool hit three or four which they are capable of they have a chance of winning, I hate agreeing with press and pundits though Liverpool can't manage games under Klopp.

    Pretty standard stuff. We have to score 3 minimum to have a chance of winning. Harry slots the first pen and we lose 3-2.

    Jamie Redknapp bang on: Karius diabolical on the first.

    And even 2 mins too long to be able to see a game out. Every week same over and over again. I'm not even joking now - why not hire Pulis as defensive coach?

    The Egyptian Maradona (shades of Diego on the second) not going to hang around much longer with that behind him undoing his food work.

    He was offsides. There should have never been a penalty. The game needs to be officiated correctly. It isn't anymore; time for video to do it.

    The second penalty was called a good 10-12 seconds after the fact. This is a pretty good sign that the linesman simply wanted to control the outcome. And on review, Lamela was NOT playing the ball; he actually instigated the contact.
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    Dele Alli is such a diving twat.


    I thought only the sneeky foreigners did that?
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
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    If Liverpool hit three or four which they are capable of they have a chance of winning, I hate agreeing with press and pundits though Liverpool can't manage games under Klopp.

    Pretty standard stuff. We have to score 3 minimum to have a chance of winning. Harry slots the first pen and we lose 3-2.

    Jamie Redknapp bang on: Karius diabolical on the first.

    And even 2 mins too long to be able to see a game out. Every week same over and over again. I'm not even joking now - why not hire Pulis as defensive coach?

    The Egyptian Maradona (shades of Diego on the second) not going to hang around much longer with that behind him undoing his food work.

    Bringing Pulis in as an assistant would tighten things up, I am being objective though I think you need a midfielder who can retain possession and keep the ball. Liverpool are on full throttle most of the time then fade. Salah genius has bailed Liverpool out too often.
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    Defence and attack are not completely seperated entities. When your game is about pressing high and dominating the game, it won't help organizing the back four by someone who wants to sit deep and absorb pressure. The defensive line has to react in cohesion with what the rest of the team does. The reason it works for Pulis is that his entire team sits low and compact. A reactive back four coupled with an agressive, high pressing midfield, is a recipe for complete disaster!

    Klopp needs to sort out his defence. But bringing in Pulis is certainly not the answer.
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    Really chuffed that we beat Middlesbrough yesterday. Another important win, just a shame we remain 8 points off the play offs. Slowly but surely though we are heading in the right direction.
  • DCisaredDCisared Liverpool
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    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Really chuffed that we beat Middlesbrough yesterday. Another important win, just a shame we remain 8 points off the play offs. Slowly but surely though we are heading in the right direction.

    That's struggling Middlesbrough in the championship managed by Tony Pulis.
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    DCisared wrote: »
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Really chuffed that we beat Middlesbrough yesterday. Another important win, just a shame we remain 8 points off the play offs. Slowly but surely though we are heading in the right direction.

    That's struggling Middlesbrough in the championship managed by Tony Pulis.

    Yep, and that suited me just fine yesterday! Lol!!!!
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    jobo wrote: »
    Defence and attack are not completely seperated entities. When your game is about pressing high and dominating the game, it won't help organizing the back four by someone who wants to sit deep and absorb pressure. The defensive line has to react in cohesion with what the rest of the team does. The reason it works for Pulis is that his entire team sits low and compact. A reactive back four coupled with an agressive, high pressing midfield, is a recipe for complete disaster!

    Klopp needs to sort out his defence. But bringing in Pulis is certainly not the answer.

    This is very true. But at least bring someone in who understands the meaning of the word as at the moment we are gegen nowhere.

    A point the least Spurs deserved in the second half. No wonder Jurgen ran down the touchline like a lunatic as he thought he'd got away with murder by nicking the 3 points.

    The guy clearly hasn't paid much attention over the years as with 2 mins on the clock and the laughable pretence of a defence he puts out there was more than enough time for a Spurs equaliser and possibly a winner.
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    RogueAgent wrote: »
    Really chuffed that we beat Middlesbrough yesterday. Another important win, just a shame we remain 8 points off the play offs. Slowly but surely though we are heading in the right direction.

    The Tettey effect continues! :-bd
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    jobo wrote: »
    Defence and attack are not completely seperated entities. When your game is about pressing high and dominating the game, it won't help organizing the back four by someone who wants to sit deep and absorb pressure. The defensive line has to react in cohesion with what the rest of the team does. The reason it works for Pulis is that his entire team sits low and compact. A reactive back four coupled with an agressive, high pressing midfield, is a recipe for complete disaster!

    Klopp needs to sort out his defence. But bringing in Pulis is certainly not the answer.

    This is very true. But at least bring someone in who understands the meaning of the word as at the moment we are gegen nowhere.

    A point the least Spurs deserved in the second half. No wonder Jurgen ran down the touchline like a lunatic as he thought he'd got away with murder by nicking the 3 points.

    The guy clearly hasn't paid much attention over the years as with 2 mins on the clock and the laughable pretence of a defence he puts out there was more than enough time for a Spurs equaliser and possibly a winner.


    It is strange, as the defence was reasonsbly solid during his Dortmund days. It consisted of better players, sure, but still...
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    jobo wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Defence and attack are not completely seperated entities. When your game is about pressing high and dominating the game, it won't help organizing the back four by someone who wants to sit deep and absorb pressure. The defensive line has to react in cohesion with what the rest of the team does. The reason it works for Pulis is that his entire team sits low and compact. A reactive back four coupled with an agressive, high pressing midfield, is a recipe for complete disaster!

    Klopp needs to sort out his defence. But bringing in Pulis is certainly not the answer.

    This is very true. But at least bring someone in who understands the meaning of the word as at the moment we are gegen nowhere.

    A point the least Spurs deserved in the second half. No wonder Jurgen ran down the touchline like a lunatic as he thought he'd got away with murder by nicking the 3 points.

    The guy clearly hasn't paid much attention over the years as with 2 mins on the clock and the laughable pretence of a defence he puts out there was more than enough time for a Spurs equaliser and possibly a winner.


    It is strange, as the defence was reasonsbly solid during his Dortmund days. It consisted of better players, sure, but still...

    Who were his defensive players at Dortmund?
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Make PLAYERS EARN it.
    jobo wrote: »
    Defence and attack are not completely seperated entities. When your game is about pressing high and dominating the game, it won't help organizing the back four by someone who wants to sit deep and absorb pressure. The defensive line has to react in cohesion with what the rest of the team does. The reason it works for Pulis is that his entire team sits low and compact. A reactive back four coupled with an agressive, high pressing midfield, is a recipe for complete disaster!

    Klopp needs to sort out his defence. But bringing in Pulis is certainly not the answer.

    This is very true. But at least bring someone in who understands the meaning of the word as at the moment we are gegen nowhere.

    A point the least Spurs deserved in the second half. No wonder Jurgen ran down the touchline like a lunatic as he thought he'd got away with murder by nicking the 3 points.

    The guy clearly hasn't paid much attention over the years as with 2 mins on the clock and the laughable pretence of a defence he puts out there was more than enough time for a Spurs equaliser and possibly a winner.

    I swear, this is the only sport in which fans think in terms of what is deserved as opposed to what is earned. It's madness.

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    jobo wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Defence and attack are not completely seperated entities. When your game is about pressing high and dominating the game, it won't help organizing the back four by someone who wants to sit deep and absorb pressure. The defensive line has to react in cohesion with what the rest of the team does. The reason it works for Pulis is that his entire team sits low and compact. A reactive back four coupled with an agressive, high pressing midfield, is a recipe for complete disaster!

    Klopp needs to sort out his defence. But bringing in Pulis is certainly not the answer.

    This is very true. But at least bring someone in who understands the meaning of the word as at the moment we are gegen nowhere.

    A point the least Spurs deserved in the second half. No wonder Jurgen ran down the touchline like a lunatic as he thought he'd got away with murder by nicking the 3 points.

    The guy clearly hasn't paid much attention over the years as with 2 mins on the clock and the laughable pretence of a defence he puts out there was more than enough time for a Spurs equaliser and possibly a winner.


    It is strange, as the defence was reasonsbly solid during his Dortmund days. It consisted of better players, sure, but still...

    Who were his defensive players at Dortmund?


    I cannot spell their names properly... :P I'll try... The usual back four was Pisczek, Subotic, Hummels and Schmelzer... or something like that... ;)
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited February 2018 Posts: 9,117
    TripAces wrote: »
    Make PLAYERS EARN it.
    jobo wrote: »
    Defence and attack are not completely seperated entities. When your game is about pressing high and dominating the game, it won't help organizing the back four by someone who wants to sit deep and absorb pressure. The defensive line has to react in cohesion with what the rest of the team does. The reason it works for Pulis is that his entire team sits low and compact. A reactive back four coupled with an agressive, high pressing midfield, is a recipe for complete disaster!

    Klopp needs to sort out his defence. But bringing in Pulis is certainly not the answer.

    This is very true. But at least bring someone in who understands the meaning of the word as at the moment we are gegen nowhere.

    A point the least Spurs deserved in the second half. No wonder Jurgen ran down the touchline like a lunatic as he thought he'd got away with murder by nicking the 3 points.

    The guy clearly hasn't paid much attention over the years as with 2 mins on the clock and the laughable pretence of a defence he puts out there was more than enough time for a Spurs equaliser and possibly a winner.

    I swear, this is the only sport in which fans think in terms of what is deserved as opposed to what is earned. It's madness.

    ???

    I didn't see any players standing around not earning their money yesterday.

    The Liverpool players worked like dogs so you could say they earned it. They were let down by their manager's infantile lack of understanding of basic physiology by asking them to sprint the whole match. Jurgen is like an F1 driver who comes into the pits for his last set of tyres then goes off at the absolute limit building up a massive lead. Then he's all confused when people start cruising past him on the final lap because he's worn the tyres down to canvas and can barely get around the track, while other more pragmatic drivers have conserved their tyres.

    The Spurs players worked their way back into it and showed bottle and spirit not to give up so they earned it as well.

    So I guess a draw the far result over the whole piece.

    But there's a myriad of factors as to why football matches are won and lost. If it's who ran the furthest and thus 'earned' it that is your criteria then I suggest you watch the marathon instead as the fact that a 30 yard screamer or an OG can in an instant rob you of what your hard work deserved is what makes football interesting.

    One of the greatest quotes - 'Football, bloody hell!' - was in a match where Utd were entirely outplayed apart for the last 2 mins of stoppage time. Surely Bayern earned that victory? But sadly for them the history book begs to differ. The fact that in football you can nick what you don't deserve is a wonderful thing that most sports don't have.
    jobo wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Defence and attack are not completely seperated entities. When your game is about pressing high and dominating the game, it won't help organizing the back four by someone who wants to sit deep and absorb pressure. The defensive line has to react in cohesion with what the rest of the team does. The reason it works for Pulis is that his entire team sits low and compact. A reactive back four coupled with an agressive, high pressing midfield, is a recipe for complete disaster!

    Klopp needs to sort out his defence. But bringing in Pulis is certainly not the answer.

    This is very true. But at least bring someone in who understands the meaning of the word as at the moment we are gegen nowhere.

    A point the least Spurs deserved in the second half. No wonder Jurgen ran down the touchline like a lunatic as he thought he'd got away with murder by nicking the 3 points.

    The guy clearly hasn't paid much attention over the years as with 2 mins on the clock and the laughable pretence of a defence he puts out there was more than enough time for a Spurs equaliser and possibly a winner.


    It is strange, as the defence was reasonsbly solid during his Dortmund days. It consisted of better players, sure, but still...

    Who were his defensive players at Dortmund?


    I cannot spell their names properly... :P I'll try... The usual back four was Pisczek, Subotic, Hummels and Schmelzer... or something like that... ;)

    Do we know if he inherited these players or assembled that defence himself? Because if so he was either lucky first time round or he has lost the ability to marshal a competent defence.

    Also the lack of winter break and the fact that premier league matches are already played at an intense pace might also be limiting the efficacy of gegenpressing this time round. It's worrying though that three seasons in he shows no sign of tailoring his approach. Last season we dropped off a cliff post New Year and the signs are starting to show again as yesterday from 65 mins every player looked like they were carrying a fridge on their backs. Except Karius of course who is just shite.
  • 001001
    edited February 2018 Posts: 1,575
    Virgil van Dijk is rubbish. He's as bad as DJ Lovren.
    75 million for him is embarrassing.
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