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Is he moving into the backroom staff ,Rogue ?
Top player btw,but you know that obviously.
One save already, you might be right! Roma's Alisson making an audition for Klopp tonight, maybe?
Only need two more.
Oh, and it's 5-1.
5-2!
In the balance now. If Barca can bottle it then our Keystone Cops defence certainly can.
We have a 15 minute spell in every game where we look capable of conceding a goal a minute. Whether Roma can capitalise sufficiently remains to be seen.
Still, I'd probably have settled for it at the start I suppose.
What an amazing game everybody expected Liverpool to score a few more and suddenly it seemed that Roma woke up and started to play football and Liverpool was with their backs against the wall. They were lucky that it ended 5-2 could have been worse after the last twenty minutes.
Well no:
HANDLING THE BALL
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm.
The following must be considered:
the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
the distance between the opponent and the ball (unexpected ball)
the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence
touching the ball with an object held in the hand (clothing, shinguard, etc.) is an offence
hitting the ball with a thrown object (boot, shinguard, etc.) is an offence
The goalkeeper has the same restrictions on handling the ball as any other player outside the penalty area. Inside their penalty area, the goalkeeper cannot be guilty of a handling offence incurring a direct free kick or any related sanction but can be guilty of handling offences that incur an indirect free kick.
Can you or the ref state unequivocally that he deliberately handled the ball?
I find that like last weeks penalty with Juve-Real the mood was anti-Ronaldo and a such we got al the excuses why it was not. Jumping somebody in a scoring position while never going for the ball unless kicking through attacker is permitted, is a sure 11 meter decision. Poorly timed by the defender and leaving the referee with no choice.
The Liverpool defender knows he goes into the course of the ball and his arm was out there instead of in his body or behind it.
I expect a shedload more 11 meter decisions once the video referee is fully introduced, because he will see a lot of shit in the box that players are getting away currently.
Yeah should never have been a penalty. That's a bullshit penalty.
Karius should have covered the inside post for the Dzeko goal.
But Salah the champ was amazing again with 2 great goals and 2 assists.
The whole team played well,except Karius and DJ Lovren, but 5-2 was a bit disappointing at the end of the day because of the penalty and some sitters missed by Mane and Wijnaldum.
Poor OX looks finished for the season.
I hope not.
I'll write it again and explain as you seem to be struggling:
Handling the ball involves a deliberate act of a player making contact with the ball with the hand or arm.
Yes Milner runs out to block the ball but can you say that there is an intention for him to stop it with his hand?
the movement of the hand towards the ball (not the ball towards the hand)
When does he move his hand towards the ball? This modern obsession for defenders to hold their hands behind their backs in the box stems from idiot refs giving penalties too freely. Yes raise your hands up high then you're asking for it but merely running towards the ball with your arms in the normal position is not a pen.
the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an offence
Again where is the intent?
The ball was smashed at him hard in a split second from quite close and there was no movement of his hand towards the ball, despite your misguided assertion that the fact it was deflected from its course by his arm being sufficient grounds for a pen.
As usual the gormless guy behind the goal contributing nothing but you'd like to think VAR might have made a difference on this one?
You make a good point with your last comment though - the amount of wrestling and shirt pulling by defenders in the box that goes unpunished is disgraceful. Particularly when that is deliberate and premeditated cheating while Milner is being penalised simply for the misfortune of having arms.
Champ? Remind me again what he's won? When he's got a CL medal then fair enough but goalscoring records are meaningless without trophies to back them up.
Got to feel for the lad. Played his way into being starting line up and odds on to start in the World Cup. At least Liverpool have Wynaldum who can come in. England really don't have that luxury. Shelvey, if not quite on the plane yet, is certainly stocking up on duty free and that's hardly a cause for celebration.
In other news:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/25/arsene-wenger-leave-arsenal-not-my-decision
So from the horse's mouth that he was basically sacked. Hopefull that will put an end to this wave of Arsene sycophancy when the reality is everyone at the club wanted shot of him, something that seems to have been conveniently airbrushed from history over the past few days.
And before Bazza and Torge lay into me for putting the boot in just look at this deluded quote from the man himself:
"It will be a Champions League night, of course – on a double level. First of all, a Champions League position is at stake, more for us than them; and secondly because the two teams are two clubs who are used to playing in the Champions League. That is why I believe it is a Champions League night.”
The guy really is on a different planet and still thinks everything is fine!!
Picture the scene if he stayed another 5 years and Arsenal are playing Forest in the Championship playoffs:
"It will be a Champions League night, of course – on a double level. First of all, a Champions League position is at stake because if you win this you get into the Premier League and then can get into the Champions League; and secondly because the two teams are two clubs who are used to playing in the Champions League (and one of them has actually won it - twice - Arsene). That is why I believe it is a Champions League night.”
I guess when you have been conditioned like one of Pavlov's dogs for a decade by a comatose board into believing that just being in the CL represents success then the Europa is the perfect competition for him as you actually get a trophy for finishing 4th.
If he's confused about which is a prestigious tournament or not there's a handy checklist you can use to determine the importance of a trophy:
1. Is Arsene Wenger manager of Arsenal?
2. Is it after 2006?
3. Are Arsenal still in contention come the business end of the tournament?
Answer yes to those questions and you are almost certainly not playing for one of the big trophies.
I think by now he genuinely cannot tell fact from his own fiction any more.
I don't care for those comments either, but Arsenal fans have any right to celebrate the good moments with him in charge, if we like to.
Edit:
I don't think Arsenal could have got a better manager than Wenger until after 2014, when he should have left. some blame on him for not stepping down, but even more so on the board and owners. I don't trust them to make the right decision in the appointment of the new manager either, I might add.