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  • jobojobo
    edited June 2018 Posts: 7,507
    Argentina's team selection for once looks sensible today! Finally they have enough midfield players to give an ageing Mashcerano protection, a deep playmaker that can orchestrate play and two wide players that can provide width, runs in behind and can stretch play, all of which they have lacked earlier in the tournament. It might not be enough to beat France, but they might at least look like a team today. One can always hope...
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    The program here doesnt even start until 2.30 GB time...30mins before kick off,so im buggered if i know the teams !

    But i know i want France to beat the Argies,no doubt about that.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    barryt007 wrote: »

    But i know i want France to beat the Argies,no doubt about that.

    Great minds think alike old friend. ;)
    Should be a good game...potentially.

  • jobojobo
    edited June 2018 Posts: 7,507
    barryt007 wrote: »
    The program here doesnt even start until 2.30 GB time...30mins before kick off,so im buggered if i know the teams !

    But i know i want France to beat the Argies,no doubt about that.


    I have a reliable football app that has published the officiall line ups. I can post it if you are interested?

    I know the English have a strange, petty relationship with Argentina, but I am sure supporting them against this boring french outfit! Argentina are a mess... but at least an unpredictable mess compared to Deschamp's predictable, soul less Football.
  • barryt007barryt007
    edited June 2018 Posts: 19,339
    jobo wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    The program here doesnt even start until 2.30 GB time...30mins before kick off,so im buggered if i know the teams !

    But i know i want France to beat the Argies,no doubt about that.


    I have a reliable football app that has published the officiall line ups. I can post it if you are interested?

    I know the English have a strange, petty relationship with Argentina, but I am sure supporting them against this boring french outfit! Argentina are a mess... but at least an unpredictable mess compared to Deschamp's predictable, soul less Football.

    It goes back to the Falklands War and has been there ever since.Its not petty,we lost a lot of good men defending our British islands and its inhabitants.
    Goes deeper than football.
    Benny wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »

    But i know i want France to beat the Argies,no doubt about that.

    Great minds think alike old friend. ;)
    Should be a good game...potentially.

    Indeed....i never support the French normally but against that scum they get my vote and yours me old pal ;)

    Even though they supplied the Argies with Exocet missiles during the Falklands war,bastards.
    The lesser of 2 evils in this case.
  • jobojobo
    edited June 2018 Posts: 7,507
    barryt007 wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    The program here doesnt even start until 2.30 GB time...30mins before kick off,so im buggered if i know the teams !

    But i know i want France to beat the Argies,no doubt about that.


    I have a reliable football app that has published the officiall line ups. I can post it if you are interested?

    I know the English have a strange, petty relationship with Argentina, but I am sure supporting them against this boring french outfit! Argentina are a mess... but at least an unpredictable mess compared to Deschamp's predictable, soul less Football.

    It goes back to the Falklands War and has been there ever since.Its not petty,we lost a lot of good men defending our British islands and its inhabitants.
    Goes deeper than football.


    I know the history... But the thing is: If wars and men lost in battle is the theme, England should have far more rivals... all over the world...
  • barryt007barryt007
    Posts: 19,339
    jobo wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    barryt007 wrote: »
    The program here doesnt even start until 2.30 GB time...30mins before kick off,so im buggered if i know the teams !

    But i know i want France to beat the Argies,no doubt about that.


    I have a reliable football app that has published the officiall line ups. I can post it if you are interested?

    I know the English have a strange, petty relationship with Argentina, but I am sure supporting them against this boring french outfit! Argentina are a mess... but at least an unpredictable mess compared to Deschamp's predictable, soul less Football.

    It goes back to the Falklands War and has been there ever since.Its not petty,we lost a lot of good men defending our British islands and its inhabitants.
    Goes deeper than football.


    I know the history... But the thing is: If wars and men lost in battle is the theme, England should have far more rivals... all over the world...

    We do...hardly the worlds most popular country,but we are talking about one event.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,759
    1-0, Griezmann!
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,759
    1-1, Di María!
  • jobojobo
    edited June 2018 Posts: 7,507
    Now that's a strike! And an incredibly important one! France cannot be allowed the luxury of playing without needing to score. Now they eventually have to take chances going forward and both teams, not only France, will get opportunities to strike while the opponent is not in perfect balance with men behind the ball.
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,177
    Dam it France get a grip
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,759
    Fire_and_Ice_Returns wrote: »
    Dam it France get a grip

    Yes, come on!
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    For the first time in the tournament, Argentina don't have to chase a result. Interesting to see how they will handle that.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited June 2018 Posts: 17,759
    2-2, Pavard! Not a bad goal that one, either!
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    What a goal from Pavard!
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    Fantastic strike! Even better than Di Maria's.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    Posts: 23,883
    Arguably two of the best goals of this tournament so far in this game.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,759
    Mbappé!
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,759
    Again! 4-2!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,177
    Get in ARGENTINA crumbling
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    It would be a joke if Argentina proceeded får with this defence...
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    4-2 with 10 minutes + stoppages left.
    Can't see Argentina getting back in this. Go France!
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,759
    4-3!
    What did Otamendi do there?!
  • Fire_and_Ice_ReturnsFire_and_Ice_Returns I am trying to get away from this mountan!
    Posts: 25,177
    Great game best team through
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,759
    Indeed. You have to wonder though, why Argentina didn't put Agüero on earlier - or why they didn't have him in the starting eleven.
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Indeed. You have to wonder though, why Argentina didn't put Agüero on earlier - or why they didn't have him in the starting eleven.


    Because they needed an extra midfielder to combat France's strength on the counter. Not that it helped much...
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    Posts: 17,759
    jobo wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Indeed. You have to wonder though, why Argentina didn't put Agüero on earlier - or why they didn't have him in the starting eleven.


    Because they needed an extra midfielder to combat France's strength on the counter. Not that it helped much...

    It sure didn't. Wonder if their neighbours in Uruguay can do the job against Portugal.
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Indeed. You have to wonder though, why Argentina didn't put Agüero on earlier - or why they didn't have him in the starting eleven.


    Because they needed an extra midfielder to combat France's strength on the counter. Not that it helped much...

    It sure didn't. Wonder if their neighbours in Uruguay can do the job against Portugal.


    It will be an interesting game. Two of the most similar teams in the tournament, both basically designed for a knock out system with physically strong players with high stamina, well drilled in a defensive team unit, but with clinical goal scorers up front. Uruguay have been the better team so far in this tournament, but that was in group games against teams they were expected to beat and to take initiativ against organized defences. Both teams are better suited to sit behind and let the other team ductate the play (what Argentina should have done but where incapable of doing). France today showed how much a different game scenario can change a performance. We might se the same effect on Uruguay or Portugal. I expect a dull affair between two catious, patient teams where small details might be decisive. My money is on Uruguay to get there in the end.
  • TorgeirtrapTorgeirtrap
    edited June 2018 Posts: 17,759
    jobo wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Indeed. You have to wonder though, why Argentina didn't put Agüero on earlier - or why they didn't have him in the starting eleven.


    Because they needed an extra midfielder to combat France's strength on the counter. Not that it helped much...

    It sure didn't. Wonder if their neighbours in Uruguay can do the job against Portugal.


    It will be an interesting game. Two of the most similar teams in the tournament, both basically designed for a knock out system with physically strong players with high stamina, well drilled in a defensive team unit, but with clinical goal scorers up front. Uruguay have been the better team so far in this tournament, but that was in group games against teams they were expected to beat and to take initiativ against organized defences. Both teams are better suited to sit behind and let the other team ductate the play (what Argentina should have done but where incapable of doing). France today showed how much a different game scenario can change a performance. We might se the same effect on Uruguay or Portugal. I expect a dull affair between two catious, patient teams where small details might be decisive. My money is on Uruguay to get there in the end.

    Not that confident, but I hope Uruguay will win this one. Even if they are similar in many ways, I rather have the one without Ronaldo and Pepe progress, haha! If Portugal progress, I can just see them going all the way to the final, winning with a late goal. That wouldn't surprise me one bit.
    _____________
    Interesting from NRK regarding Jo Nesbø (writer of The Snowman), and brothers Petter and Nils Rudi's involvement in VAR:
    https://www.nrk.no/sport/jo-nesbo-hjalp-fifa-med-var_-_-de-var-veldig-apne-for-vare-innspill-1.14107189
    (I guess Google translate gives an OK translation of this)
  • jobojobo
    Posts: 7,507
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    Torgeirtrap wrote: »
    Indeed. You have to wonder though, why Argentina didn't put Agüero on earlier - or why they didn't have him in the starting eleven.


    Because they needed an extra midfielder to combat France's strength on the counter. Not that it helped much...

    It sure didn't. Wonder if their neighbours in Uruguay can do the job against Portugal.


    It will be an interesting game. Two of the most similar teams in the tournament, both basically designed for a knock out system with physically strong players with high stamina, well drilled in a defensive team unit, but with clinical goal scorers up front. Uruguay have been the better team so far in this tournament, but that was in group games against teams they were expected to beat and to take initiativ against organized defences. Both teams are better suited to sit behind and let the other team ductate the play (what Argentina should have done but where incapable of doing). France today showed how much a different game scenario can change a performance. We might se the same effect on Uruguay or Portugal. I expect a dull affair between two catious, patient teams where small details might be decisive. My money is on Uruguay to get there in the end.

    Not that confident, but I hope Uruguay will win this one. Even if they are similar in many ways, I rather have the one without Ronaldo and Pepe progress, haha! If Portugal progress, I can just see them going all the way to the final, winning with a late goal. That wouldn't surprise me one bit.
    _____________
    Interesting from NRK regarding Jo Nesbø (writer of The Snowman), and brothers Petter and Nils Rudi's involvement in VAR:
    https://www.nrk.no/sport/jo-nesbo-hjalp-fifa-med-var_-_-de-var-veldig-apne-for-vare-innspill-1.14107189
    (I guess Google translate gives an OK translation of this)


    I think France with an in form Mbappe would get the better of them this year. And Brazil should be much better in a semifinal... Something different to Poland and Wales...
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