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  • edited July 2020 Posts: 17,757
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Get in Chelsea!
    Into the FA cup final. Could see some silverware this year.

    I really don't hope this will turn into a game like the one between the two teams in Baku last year…

    Yeah, even Chelsea would know that this Arsenal, even if they're yet to fully adapt to Arteta's style, are a bit tougher to play now. It's Arsenal's new found willingness to defend that might just do it and Martinez in goal has been surprisingly good. It might require Martinez to get injured, before Leno gets back in....and when two of them are fit, we would know who Arteta wants the most.

    I think a lot will come down to the performance Martinez manages to pull out, in Arsenal's case. He had some absolutely crucial saves against Liverpool and City, and Arteta will need him to do the same against Chelsea, because they will get plenty of chances I think, no matter how Arsenal defend. Fortunately for Arsenal, they will have more attacking options now that Nketiah has served his ban.

    Writing this, I already start feeling nervous about that game!

    That's it.
    Yeah, am also super-nervous for the game.

    The more I think of it, the more I feel this will be Giroud's game. It would be so…Arsenal to slip up in a final, and for a former player to be key to the result.

    It's a massive achievement for Arsenal to jut reach the final though, so they have nothing to lose really.

    Yeah, they don't actually. I can't remember envisaging Arsenal in a cup final....let alone, an FA cup final.

    Indeed. Wonder what the odds were on reaching a FA Cup final – at any stage in their cup campaign… :-?
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Wow!....2020 has been that sort of year though. We have to endure the unprecedented for the time being.

    Certainly! We have to expect news like this for some time yet.

    Lol, Yeah.
    Yeah, that's it....but we'll get through this.

    We're so used to this now, that I guess we can't really be surprised. Some events will find ways to be held anyway (in some form/capacity), which will just be a bonus.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Get in Chelsea!
    Into the FA cup final. Could see some silverware this year.

    I really don't hope this will turn into a game like the one between the two teams in Baku last year…

    Yeah, even Chelsea would know that this Arsenal, even if they're yet to fully adapt to Arteta's style, are a bit tougher to play now. It's Arsenal's new found willingness to defend that might just do it and Martinez in goal has been surprisingly good. It might require Martinez to get injured, before Leno gets back in....and when two of them are fit, we would know who Arteta wants the most.

    I think a lot will come down to the performance Martinez manages to pull out, in Arsenal's case. He had some absolutely crucial saves against Liverpool and City, and Arteta will need him to do the same against Chelsea, because they will get plenty of chances I think, no matter how Arsenal defend. Fortunately for Arsenal, they will have more attacking options now that Nketiah has served his ban.

    Writing this, I already start feeling nervous about that game!

    That's it.
    Yeah, am also super-nervous for the game.

    The more I think of it, the more I feel this will be Giroud's game. It would be so…Arsenal to slip up in a final, and for a former player to be key to the result.

    It's a massive achievement for Arsenal to jut reach the final though, so they have nothing to lose really.

    Yeah, they don't actually. I can't remember envisaging Arsenal in a cup final....let alone, an FA cup final.

    Indeed. Wonder what the odds were on reaching a FA Cup final – at any stage in their cup campaign… :-?
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Wow!....2020 has been that sort of year though. We have to endure the unprecedented for the time being.

    Certainly! We have to expect news like this for some time yet.

    Lol, Yeah.
    Yeah, that's it....but we'll get through this.

    We're so used to this now, that I guess we can't really be surprised. Some events will find ways to be held anyway (in some form/capacity), which will just be a bonus.

    Yeah, true.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited July 2020 Posts: 4,247
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 17,757
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.
  • Posts: 17,757
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 17,757
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited July 2020 Posts: 4,247
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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  • Posts: 17,757
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.
  • Posts: 17,757
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.
  • Posts: 17,757
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited July 2020 Posts: 4,247
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.
  • edited July 2020 Posts: 17,757
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.

    It's no doubt a sign on how the club sees the two players, and I really hope Saliba is the defender that defence has been screaming for!

    Anelka is a controversial player, which makes this documentary all the more interesting to watch, IMO. I imagine Arsene Wenger will feature too, which will be a bonus.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.

    It's no doubt a sign on how the club sees the two players, and I really hope Saliba is the defender that defence has been screaming for!

    Anelka is a controversial player, which makes this documentary all the more interesting to watch, IMO. I imagine Arsene Wenger will feature too, which will be a bonus.

    Exactly! I also hope Saliba lives up to the hype. Because for the past year or so, he's been rated very highly.

    That's just the word...Anelka is simply CONTROVERSIAL. I think arsenal fans look at him, the same way they look at Adebayor. Yeah, Wenger looks certain to feature.
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.

    It's no doubt a sign on how the club sees the two players, and I really hope Saliba is the defender that defence has been screaming for!

    Anelka is a controversial player, which makes this documentary all the more interesting to watch, IMO. I imagine Arsene Wenger will feature too, which will be a bonus.

    Exactly! I also hope Saliba lives up to the hype. Because for the past year or so, he's been rated very highly.

    That's just the word...Anelka is simply CONTROVERSIAL. I think arsenal fans look at him, the same way they look at Adebayor. Yeah, Wenger looks certain to feature.

    He certainly has. And he's the type of player Arsenal are able to get; young but promising, and at a price their budget can stretch to – as opposed to big transfers like Liverpool/City/United are able to do.

    Yes, I think many do view him the same way. Ideally he should have been at Arsenal longer. I'm curious about what Wenger might tell in that documentary.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.

    It's no doubt a sign on how the club sees the two players, and I really hope Saliba is the defender that defence has been screaming for!

    Anelka is a controversial player, which makes this documentary all the more interesting to watch, IMO. I imagine Arsene Wenger will feature too, which will be a bonus.

    Exactly! I also hope Saliba lives up to the hype. Because for the past year or so, he's been rated very highly.

    That's just the word...Anelka is simply CONTROVERSIAL. I think arsenal fans look at him, the same way they look at Adebayor. Yeah, Wenger looks certain to feature.

    He certainly has. And he's the type of player Arsenal are able to get; young but promising, and at a price their budget can stretch to – as opposed to big transfers like Liverpool/City/United are able to do.

    Yes, I think many do view him the same way. Ideally he should have been at Arsenal longer. I'm curious about what Wenger might tell in that documentary.

    Yeah, that's just it.
    Ok, yeah...maybe Wenger might reveal something new.
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.

    It's no doubt a sign on how the club sees the two players, and I really hope Saliba is the defender that defence has been screaming for!

    Anelka is a controversial player, which makes this documentary all the more interesting to watch, IMO. I imagine Arsene Wenger will feature too, which will be a bonus.

    Exactly! I also hope Saliba lives up to the hype. Because for the past year or so, he's been rated very highly.

    That's just the word...Anelka is simply CONTROVERSIAL. I think arsenal fans look at him, the same way they look at Adebayor. Yeah, Wenger looks certain to feature.

    He certainly has. And he's the type of player Arsenal are able to get; young but promising, and at a price their budget can stretch to – as opposed to big transfers like Liverpool/City/United are able to do.

    Yes, I think many do view him the same way. Ideally he should have been at Arsenal longer. I'm curious about what Wenger might tell in that documentary.

    Yeah, that's just it.
    Ok, yeah...maybe Wenger might reveal something new.

    Who knows, maybe he will. I just enjoy hearing the man talk, to be honest. Wenger is always so well-spoken.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.

    It's no doubt a sign on how the club sees the two players, and I really hope Saliba is the defender that defence has been screaming for!

    Anelka is a controversial player, which makes this documentary all the more interesting to watch, IMO. I imagine Arsene Wenger will feature too, which will be a bonus.

    Exactly! I also hope Saliba lives up to the hype. Because for the past year or so, he's been rated very highly.

    That's just the word...Anelka is simply CONTROVERSIAL. I think arsenal fans look at him, the same way they look at Adebayor. Yeah, Wenger looks certain to feature.

    He certainly has. And he's the type of player Arsenal are able to get; young but promising, and at a price their budget can stretch to – as opposed to big transfers like Liverpool/City/United are able to do.

    Yes, I think many do view him the same way. Ideally he should have been at Arsenal longer. I'm curious about what Wenger might tell in that documentary.

    Yeah, that's just it.
    Ok, yeah...maybe Wenger might reveal something new.

    Who knows, maybe he will. I just enjoy hearing the man talk, to be honest. Wenger is always so well-spoken.

    Yeah, like Klopp, Pep and Arteta, Wenger is so polite, humble and a joy to listen to.
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.

    It's no doubt a sign on how the club sees the two players, and I really hope Saliba is the defender that defence has been screaming for!

    Anelka is a controversial player, which makes this documentary all the more interesting to watch, IMO. I imagine Arsene Wenger will feature too, which will be a bonus.

    Exactly! I also hope Saliba lives up to the hype. Because for the past year or so, he's been rated very highly.

    That's just the word...Anelka is simply CONTROVERSIAL. I think arsenal fans look at him, the same way they look at Adebayor. Yeah, Wenger looks certain to feature.

    He certainly has. And he's the type of player Arsenal are able to get; young but promising, and at a price their budget can stretch to – as opposed to big transfers like Liverpool/City/United are able to do.

    Yes, I think many do view him the same way. Ideally he should have been at Arsenal longer. I'm curious about what Wenger might tell in that documentary.

    Yeah, that's just it.
    Ok, yeah...maybe Wenger might reveal something new.

    Who knows, maybe he will. I just enjoy hearing the man talk, to be honest. Wenger is always so well-spoken.

    Yeah, like Klopp, Pep and Arteta, Wenger is so polite, humble and a joy to listen to.

    Indeed. Wenger's autobiography comes out later this year, and I'm looking forward to reading it. But I am tempted to wait and see if there will be an audiobook edition, read by Wenger himself!
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.

    It's no doubt a sign on how the club sees the two players, and I really hope Saliba is the defender that defence has been screaming for!

    Anelka is a controversial player, which makes this documentary all the more interesting to watch, IMO. I imagine Arsene Wenger will feature too, which will be a bonus.

    Exactly! I also hope Saliba lives up to the hype. Because for the past year or so, he's been rated very highly.

    That's just the word...Anelka is simply CONTROVERSIAL. I think arsenal fans look at him, the same way they look at Adebayor. Yeah, Wenger looks certain to feature.

    He certainly has. And he's the type of player Arsenal are able to get; young but promising, and at a price their budget can stretch to – as opposed to big transfers like Liverpool/City/United are able to do.

    Yes, I think many do view him the same way. Ideally he should have been at Arsenal longer. I'm curious about what Wenger might tell in that documentary.

    Yeah, that's just it.
    Ok, yeah...maybe Wenger might reveal something new.

    Who knows, maybe he will. I just enjoy hearing the man talk, to be honest. Wenger is always so well-spoken.

    Yeah, like Klopp, Pep and Arteta, Wenger is so polite, humble and a joy to listen to.

    Indeed. Wenger's autobiography comes out later this year, and I'm looking forward to reading it. But I am tempted to wait and see if there will be an audiobook edition, read by Wenger himself!

    Yeah, that would be something special.
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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
    __________

    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.

    It's no doubt a sign on how the club sees the two players, and I really hope Saliba is the defender that defence has been screaming for!

    Anelka is a controversial player, which makes this documentary all the more interesting to watch, IMO. I imagine Arsene Wenger will feature too, which will be a bonus.

    Exactly! I also hope Saliba lives up to the hype. Because for the past year or so, he's been rated very highly.

    That's just the word...Anelka is simply CONTROVERSIAL. I think arsenal fans look at him, the same way they look at Adebayor. Yeah, Wenger looks certain to feature.

    He certainly has. And he's the type of player Arsenal are able to get; young but promising, and at a price their budget can stretch to – as opposed to big transfers like Liverpool/City/United are able to do.

    Yes, I think many do view him the same way. Ideally he should have been at Arsenal longer. I'm curious about what Wenger might tell in that documentary.

    Yeah, that's just it.
    Ok, yeah...maybe Wenger might reveal something new.

    Who knows, maybe he will. I just enjoy hearing the man talk, to be honest. Wenger is always so well-spoken.

    Yeah, like Klopp, Pep and Arteta, Wenger is so polite, humble and a joy to listen to.

    Indeed. Wenger's autobiography comes out later this year, and I'm looking forward to reading it. But I am tempted to wait and see if there will be an audiobook edition, read by Wenger himself!

    Yeah, that would be something special.

    Very much so!
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    We won't have to wait long until PL returns!

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    Arsenal lost, which I think is good. Because, I want us to focus on the premier league next season. Let's forget about European football....I think Pepe is beginning to look like a gamble, that didn't pay off, whenever he's with the ball, I always get the feeling he might lose it. He just doesn't look like the finished article.

    I'm not sold on Pepe either – yet. I think there's a player there, but if it's Arsenal he's best suited for, I really don't know.

    Arsenal without European football can damage the club as much (if not more) than it helps. If we don't consider finances, I completely agree, but for Arsenal, so much rely on finances – or the lack of it. Big summer ahead for the club (again).

    Yeah, Pepe's end product is a bit of a problem. I just hope he improves next season. I don't know maybe am thinking ahead of myself, but Saka looks more threatening than Pepe.

    Yeah, Big Summer indeed....Arsenal simply needs massive rebuilding....I would be surprised if we don't sign up to 5 players. What we've always been crying out for at Arsenal is GRIT. If Arsenal signs tough as nails defenders and midfielders, the flair players would focus more....knowing they have assurance at the back. Not that Arsenal don't need to sign flair players, but we need more of strength in this team.

    The thing with Saka though, is that he's been part of Arsenal for years already, playing with the youth teams. He was coached by Ljungberg at the U23's, and Ljungberg is now part of the first team coaching staff. Pepe is still probably trying to settle in England, getting used to the way Arsenal are playing, etc. That being said, I'm sure the club want to see progress (we all do), going into next season. We know Emery wanted Zaha to fill the same role, and there were talks ongoing between Zaha and the club. Perhaps it would have been better to just throw the money at Palace, buying a proven PL player.

    Will they spend though, that's the question. The Kroenke's don't want to spend a penny on the club, and would rather see that the club is self-sustainable. How many PL really are? Owners of other big PL clubs pump money into the clubs to make them competitive. The fact that Arsenal are not in that situation (and I believe there are FFP restrictions at play too), puts the team two steps behind everyone else.

    I think Arsenal's spending is limited to wether they get European football or not next season, and who they're able to bring in is probably directly linked with that. I can see them signing 1-2 players. If they sign anyone else, it will come down to player sales, because the funds are unlikely to be there…

    True....painful facts.

    Being an Arsenal supporter is painful!

    Personally, I don't expect much this summer. But if Arsenal could find some miraculous way of getting a few good deals over the line, that would be absolutely fantastic. But they need to be smart. Arteta was quoted recently, saying: “Yes,” he said, when asked if Arsenal would still be able to attract top players. “Because we've an incredible history, an incredible structure, in a beautiful city and a style of play that attracts players. I'm telling you now because when I am closer to the market now when I speak to people, a lot of players want to play for Arsenal.”

    That may well be true, but there are two other London clubs that are much more attractive for a top player, I would imagine – and those two clubs will be playing European football next season (or, I expect so with Sp*rs. Chelsea will).

    Yeah, I think the name ARSENAL and indeed the ever glitzy style of play is huge enough to attract good players, even without European Football. And since Arteta is visibly steering the ship towards the right direction, that might be an added advantage for players to come to the club....My God! Arteta's brilliance is so visible, pre-rebuilding.

    There's a lot to like about Arteta already, and what has been pointed out by many, is how good he presents himself and his ideas. In some ways he reminds me of Wenger, and that's very positive. I just hope the fact that he's inexperienced as a head coach doesn't scare away any potential targets, who might find it better to work under more experieced names, like Mourinho, Ancelotti, etc. I'm not naming Klopp and Pep, as they operate at another level.

    Sure, Arteta is on the right path and we hope players see him as the next big thing and get attracted by that.

    Indeed, Klopp and Pep....hmmmm. Them two are not of this world.

    It's interesting though, that there's a new "crop" of managers now: Arteta at Arsenal, Lampard at Chelsea, Julian Nagelsmann at RB Leipzig, etc. Not comparing them of course, but it's interesting to see younger managers at big clubs.

    It's almost like I won't expect any team but Liverpool or City to win the league until after Pep and Klopp leaves PL. They're that dominant.

    Honestly....that's it.

    Just had a thought: if we were to speculate before that time comes; who do we think will be likely candidates for the Liverpool/City jobs when Klopp and Pep leaves? Klopp will probably be around a bit longer, but I can imagine Pep finishing his stay at City in a few years.
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    :))

    Yeah, am surprised Pep is still at city...I thought he was leaving after this season.

    Yeah, Sure. In this short time, Klopp looks like he has been at Liverpool since the 90s. So it looks like he staying a bit longer.

    Lol, I have difficulty playing the clip, I'll keep trying though....but I guess once it involves the Simpsons, it's hilarious, Lol.

    I thought so to, but I don't know how long Pep's contract actually is.

    Hah, yes! It's strange to think that the man who he replaced has since been at Celtic and now Leicester.

    Ah, too bad. @SimpsonsArsenal on Twitter is definitely worth following. Hilarious and often frighteningly accurate!
    GadgetMan wrote: »

    Nice! :-bd

    This will no doubt be worth watching!

    Yeah, that's it.

    😁 Indeed, Love the shirt numbers.

    Yeah, am a bit unsure about Anelka though, don't know if he's really loved that much by the fans.

    It's no doubt a sign on how the club sees the two players, and I really hope Saliba is the defender that defence has been screaming for!

    Anelka is a controversial player, which makes this documentary all the more interesting to watch, IMO. I imagine Arsene Wenger will feature too, which will be a bonus.

    Exactly! I also hope Saliba lives up to the hype. Because for the past year or so, he's been rated very highly.

    That's just the word...Anelka is simply CONTROVERSIAL. I think arsenal fans look at him, the same way they look at Adebayor. Yeah, Wenger looks certain to feature.

    He certainly has. And he's the type of player Arsenal are able to get; young but promising, and at a price their budget can stretch to – as opposed to big transfers like Liverpool/City/United are able to do.

    Yes, I think many do view him the same way. Ideally he should have been at Arsenal longer. I'm curious about what Wenger might tell in that documentary.

    Yeah, that's just it.
    Ok, yeah...maybe Wenger might reveal something new.

    Who knows, maybe he will. I just enjoy hearing the man talk, to be honest. Wenger is always so well-spoken.

    Yeah, like Klopp, Pep and Arteta, Wenger is so polite, humble and a joy to listen to.

    Indeed. Wenger's autobiography comes out later this year, and I'm looking forward to reading it. But I am tempted to wait and see if there will be an audiobook edition, read by Wenger himself!

    Yeah, that would be something special.

    Very much so!
    __________

    We won't have to wait long until PL returns!


    Beautiful! Beautiful News!....I've always thought it would be sooner rather than later.
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