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All out War!
Arsène has been talking about the possibility of a European Super League for years. Here's what he said in 2009:
Indeed.
These quotes from Florentino Perez are just…ugh… :-&
These comments are anti football.
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Boris Johnson helming round table to discuss the issue this afternoon.
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Its reported that some owners in the Big Six are getting cold feet, guaranteed it wont be Man United, Arsenal or Liverpool.
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@GoldenGun Perez et al just want an easy fix to bail themselves out of debt and accumulate more money and don't care about any other team.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JHenderson/status/1384597901079371778?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet
Jordan Henderson rallied all Captains in the Premier League.
Never thought the Kroenkes could become more hated within the fan base, but they sure managed to do that.
Attacking the history and tradition of English football was futile, they underestimated how deeply ingrained football is in people's heart and soul.
This sums it up perfectly.
Barca are rumoured to not be withdrawing lol
Each of the teams that signed up paid 8 million pounds.
Football writer Lars Sivertsen sums this up perfectly:
If money is that important and Real have none and football will die in 2024, why have Real agreed a deal to sign Alaba on a five year contract in the summer on reported ridiculous wages :))
He needs to stop talking.
These so called big teams playing each other weekly will get dull quick, it means something when these teams cross paths years down the line renewing an old rivalry i.e. Man United v Bayern.
It means something when West Brom beat Chelsea in a high stakes game, that's the beauty of the game right there.
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The Euro's start in 50 days :-O just occurred to me I better book some leave, I almost forgot about the competition with everything that's been going on.
But I suppose it is partly reflective of Real Madrid's and, to a slightly lesser degree, Barcelona's stanse on this as well as the general reaction in Spain. There has been a backlash to the Super League idea also in Spain, but not nearly as volatile or unanimous as in England. There are a couple of reasons for this. Firstly it is more or less accepted already that Barca and Real Madrid have financial powers the rest of the league can't aspire to, and almost all Spaniards support one of the two anyway. There is also a sense of entitlement at Real Madrid, and to a slightly lesser extent at Barca, that they deserve this priviliged position. I listen to a podcast on Spanish football made by English journalists living in Spain and one of them said all his Spanish friends who are Real Madrid supporters were more or less unanimously on board with the idea. There is another factor as well in that Spaniards are far mor hostile towards UEFA than the British. Real Madrid supporters for example have convinced themselves there is a conspiracy of sorts against them and a plan to break with UEFA for good is therefore easy to sell. Barca fans are also pissed off at UEFA after they were fined for using Catalan flags during European games a couple of years ago...
Barca's new president, Joan Laporta, had made a clause in the agreement his predecessor signed with the Super League which gave the Socios (club members) a chance to vote on the matter and the club a chance to break the contract without sanctions if the Socios voted against the idea. Whether this referendum will happen now, I don't know. But although I do think the members would have voted against joining the Super League, the fact that I am not certain tells you all you need to know about the matter...
Still though, you'd expect that team such as Sevilla, Valencia or Bilbao have a very strong fanbase as well and they wouldn't have been happy either.
It just baffles me how Perez turns things around. First they buy all the good players with money they don't have and when they are in too much in debt because of it, they want to exclude clubs that are healthy because they didn't buy the two best players in the world on each position, making them less competitive.
What rubs me even more the wrong way is that he seems to think he's actually right. Or Real Madrid is closer to bankruptcy than we might think...
Yes, the fanbase of said teams were obviously angry. But then you have to question the intent: Was the anger based on a moral, ethical standpoint, or were they angry because they were losing out? Ten-fifteen years ago, the obvious candidates for the third spot together with Barca and RM would have been Valencia followed by Sevilla. Atletico wouldn't have been in the conversation at all...
I agree that Perez' point is hypocritical to say the least. But the reality is that many Real Madrid fans are quite arrogant and feel entitled to priviliges based on their succesful history. They see it somewhat as a natural world order if you like. Sadly I have to admit this is the case with many Barcafans as well...
True, but in that case Low Country teams such as Ajax and Anderlecht should be considered as well. Maybe even Göteborg. Or what about Nottingham Forest, or Parma? I doubt if they'd agree though...
I'll make a case for my beloved Rosenborg! :P ;))
But you are obviously right. There are many teams both in and outside the top leagues that have at various points been powerhouses in European football. Yet they have to accept falling behind a team like Tottenham in the pecking order. It's frankly absurd...
You would do a great job ;)
Here are some more former greats that I'd suggest:
Sampdoria
Lazio
Roma
Napoli
Torino
Saint-Étienne
Reims
Monaco
Valencia
Sevilla
Bilbao
Sociedad
Benfica
Sporting
Porto
PSV
Feyenoord
Carl Zeiss Jena
Magdeburg
Red Star Belgrade
Steaua Bucharest
Dynamo Kiev
Rapid Vienna
Austria Vienna
Malmö
Panthinaikos
Olympiacos
Sparta Prague
Slovan Bratislava
Dinamo Tbilisi
... poor old Schalke 04.
You could go on and on, of course. So many former greats are struggling and it angers me a bit that those 12 teams feel entitled to their priviliges while so many others were equally impressive, but at the wrong moment in time, it seems.
Ray Parlour has a go at AFTV.
Haha, yes! The best response (among many) to those comments by Perez, was this one from Gunnerblog on Twitter:
Don't have the full context here, but there's no doubt AFTV as a channel do much better when the team loses. And it's a shame that that channel is presented as the voice of the regular Arsenal fan when things go bad.
I wonder if Perez thinks this was a set up lol