"Back of the net!": The Football Thread

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  • Good result for Norwich surprised Everton have been in good shape so far this season.

    Man United won tonight thankfully, Herrera needs to start more often Carrick looked good, Rashford is our Owen (Young Owen) and Rooney is burnt out.
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    Sam Allardyce sacked as England manager...offiical.

    What a greedy,bloody idiot,and well done the F.A for showing some balls.
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    You could say Sam scored the biggest own goal ever!

    The FA did the right thing getting rid of him. They acted quickly and didn't drag it out.

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    England Manager with a 100% record.
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    Southgate is in charge of the next 3 games,but i think we need someone established,experience or someone with more emotion on the sideline than him long term.
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    Any idea who that will be?
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    No not really ,but i wouldnt be upset if either Wenger,Pardew or Redknapp got a chance...or one of them alongside Eddie Howe,for him to learn ...
  • Get Hoddle in he was my first choice after Roy, no comment on Sam F.A. had no choice.
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    If they've put Southgate in temp charge then I worry about who comes next. Southgate himself - for me, this generations Steve McLaren?, Bruce? Not good options there. As for Allardyce, like fire and ice, I have no comment to make.
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    I would even take Hoddle over Southgate...he is an FA puppet...
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    England a FARCE on and off the pitch! :-q
  • edited September 2016 Posts: 19,339
    RogueAgent wrote: »
    England a FARCE on and off the pitch! :-q

    I second that !!
    TBH though,with the exception of Italia '90 and Euro '96,and Le Tournoi which we won in 1998,its been pain all the way in my lifetime,so far,so i kind of accept it now.
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    Ok, so I may be putting 2 and 2 together and getting 84 but, Allardyce resigns, Pearson being shown the door at Derby County, Pearson slips right in to the England role once he's sorted his compo from Derby. Clear all along obviously. Haha :D

    I would say though, that as much as I'm not being serious, Pearson does have enough attitude for an international boss.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    I thought things had bottomed out with the Iceland game but now we are staring down the barrel of Southgate or Steve Bruce.

    It simply has to be Eddie Howe and the FA have to state that it doesn't even matter if we don't qualify for the next World Cup - he will be there at least until Qatar.

    I would certainly take Howe with Wenger in a director of football role to assist.

    We simply have to move on from 'old school' (ie uninspiring, limited and probably as dodgy as Sam) candidates and make a clear statement that this is year zero.

    The Bruces, Pardews and, god forbid, Redknapps of the world would see us repeating the same old mistakes once again and thus repeat the same results of chronic failure.

    All of these candidates are bottom of the barrel options. If there was an outstanding candidate then fine but as there isn't why take a punt on one of these who are all rooted in the past when you can take the same punt on Howe and look to the future at the same time?

    This really has to be a cleansing of the Augean stables moment where English football looks forwards rather than cling to the past.

    Enough of bumbling along by appointing one journeyman after another what have we got to lose by going for youthful vigour in Howe?

    The only problem is he'd be mad to accept it.
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    I'd love to see Howe get the job, with someone there with plenty of experience to guide him through his first year or two. It won't happen because the FA don't seem to think like that. There isn't much choice on the English manager front, Bruce, Pardew, Pulis, Dyche and Howe and only 4 of them in the Premier League (unless you count Phelan at Hull, but he hasn't taken the job yet as he's asking for more money - work that one out). Myself, I'd like to see go for Howe. A young manager to not only see them through this qualifying campaign and, whether they qualify or not, to take the team on for years to come. Build for the future, not to concentrate on just the next world cup, it has to be a plan the next 10-20 years. Howe could be in the job for quite a while as he's still very young.

    However, as the wizard mentioned above, he may be mad to accept it, it is a poisoned chalice and the media, as has been proved time and time and time again, will make it as difficult as possible.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited September 2016 Posts: 9,117
    Telegraph says they have 8 other managers who are bent.

    How many of the prospective candidates above will be left in the frame when those names come out?

    We can be 100% sure Harry is one of them. Pardew has a chance and Bruce doesn't seem that dodgy but he is of the old school so probably has had a little dabble here and there.

    This is why it has to be Howe. Everyone from the previous generation, guilty or not, is going to be tainted by association.

    Although to be fair to Woy despite the myriad of criticisms you can level at his hapless tenure the one thing you always felt was that he was a fundamentally decent and honest man trying to do his best. It's just his best was an absolute shambles.
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    Telegraph says they have 8 other managers who are bent.

    How many of the prospective candidates above will be left in the frame when those names come out?

    We can be 100% sure Harry is one of them. Pardew has a chance and Bruce doesn't seem that dodgy but he is of the old school so probably has had a little dabble here and there.

    This is why it has to be Howe. Everyone from the previous generation, guilty or not, is going to be tainted by association.

    Although to be fair to Woy despite the myriad of criticisms you can level at his hapless tenure the one thing you always felt was that he was a fundamentally decent and honest man trying to do his best. It's just his best was an absolute shambles.

    I can't imagine Steve Bruce being one of them, the man is a proper gent.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited September 2016 Posts: 9,117
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Telegraph says they have 8 other managers who are bent.

    How many of the prospective candidates above will be left in the frame when those names come out?

    We can be 100% sure Harry is one of them. Pardew has a chance and Bruce doesn't seem that dodgy but he is of the old school so probably has had a little dabble here and there.

    This is why it has to be Howe. Everyone from the previous generation, guilty or not, is going to be tainted by association.

    Although to be fair to Woy despite the myriad of criticisms you can level at his hapless tenure the one thing you always felt was that he was a fundamentally decent and honest man trying to do his best. It's just his best was an absolute shambles.

    I can't imagine Steve Bruce being one of them, the man is a proper gent.

    He doesn't have the 'intellectual' sheen of a Wenger or a Pep, he was a player before the ridiculous money came into the game, he manages in the championship/bottom half of the prem and he's from the North.

    I'm afraid he fits the bill just as much as a 70s children's TV presenter does for Yewtree.

    Warnock another one who is shitting it. I'm surprised him and Harry haven't legged it to Marbella already to be honest.
  • JohnHammond73JohnHammond73 Lancashire, UK
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    The Telegraph have these others names, yet haven't released them. After the events of yesterday they should be made to release them. They couldn't wait to get Allardyce out and, after the events of yesterday, should be made to do this now. This is why I never read newspapers anymore.
  • edited September 2016 Posts: 6,432
    Sam just been on SKY said very little, he has a confidentiality agreement.

    Allegedly a seven figure sum is his severance pay, it's difficult to take any of this seriously.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Sam just been on SKY said very little, he has a confidentiality agreement.

    Allegedly a seven figure sum is his severance pay, it's difficult to take any of this seriously.

    Only in football could you be effectively sacked for gross misconduct yet still cop for a massive payout.

    At least now he is free to go about his business advising dodgy f**kers how to swerve FA rules.
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    The whole thing is a shambles,and the other 7 or 8 managers need to be exposed and kicked out - show the world we can shovel our own shit....
  • He wanted to be a guest speaker, his wish has come true.
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    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Telegraph says they have 8 other managers who are bent.

    How many of the prospective candidates above will be left in the frame when those names come out?

    We can be 100% sure Harry is one of them. Pardew has a chance and Bruce doesn't seem that dodgy but he is of the old school so probably has had a little dabble here and there.

    This is why it has to be Howe. Everyone from the previous generation, guilty or not, is going to be tainted by association.

    Although to be fair to Woy despite the myriad of criticisms you can level at his hapless tenure the one thing you always felt was that he was a fundamentally decent and honest man trying to do his best. It's just his best was an absolute shambles.

    I can't imagine Steve Bruce being one of them, the man is a proper gent.

    He doesn't have the 'intellectual' sheen of a Wenger or a Pep, he was a player before the ridiculous money came into the game, he manages in the championship/bottom half of the prem and he's from the North.

    I'm afraid he fits the bill just as much as a 70s children's TV presenter does for Yewtree.

    Warnock another one who is shitting it. I'm surprised him and Harry haven't legged it to Marbella already to be honest.

    A little bit harsh my friend. Bruce is a nice chap.
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    No,i don't think Bruce would be involved in that...but Redknapp,Warnock etc definitely a possibility....
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    Telegraph says they have 8 other managers who are bent.

    How many of the prospective candidates above will be left in the frame when those names come out?

    I take it the Telegraph are going to announce them one by one after the FA appoint them.
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    Well they will have to announce them as they did with Allardyce,it's only fair,and tbh the scum managers deserve to be outed,we don't want them in our game.
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    vzok wrote: »
    Telegraph says they have 8 other managers who are bent.

    How many of the prospective candidates above will be left in the frame when those names come out?

    I take it the Telegraph are going to announce them one by one after the FA appoint them.

    Maybe they'll release their identities one by one on YouTube like Silva in Skyfall.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    tanaka123 wrote: »
    Telegraph says they have 8 other managers who are bent.

    How many of the prospective candidates above will be left in the frame when those names come out?

    We can be 100% sure Harry is one of them. Pardew has a chance and Bruce doesn't seem that dodgy but he is of the old school so probably has had a little dabble here and there.

    This is why it has to be Howe. Everyone from the previous generation, guilty or not, is going to be tainted by association.

    Although to be fair to Woy despite the myriad of criticisms you can level at his hapless tenure the one thing you always felt was that he was a fundamentally decent and honest man trying to do his best. It's just his best was an absolute shambles.

    I can't imagine Steve Bruce being one of them, the man is a proper gent.

    He doesn't have the 'intellectual' sheen of a Wenger or a Pep, he was a player before the ridiculous money came into the game, he manages in the championship/bottom half of the prem and he's from the North.

    I'm afraid he fits the bill just as much as a 70s children's TV presenter does for Yewtree.

    Warnock another one who is shitting it. I'm surprised him and Harry haven't legged it to Marbella already to be honest.

    A little bit harsh my friend. Bruce is a nice chap.

    I'll assume there's something of a Hull bias there, but of course I'm not saying Steve Bruce is dodgy (except for the ease with which his teams hand points to Man Utd), but he is certainly in the at risk group perception wise of old school managers who are all likely to be under suspicion if the Telegraph's allegations prove as explosive as they are suggesting they will be.

    Anyway apart from anything else has it really come to this? Steve f**king Bruce for England manager? I know we're at a low ebb but really.

    At least Howe gives you hope that he might turn out to be brilliant. Bruce has been around long enough for us to know that he is merely a bog average journeyman.
  • Massimo Cellino, Tommy Wright and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink three more high profile individuals named by The Telegraph.
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