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  • htall90htall90
    Posts: 277
    Yh it's in the middle a way back from the batman films in the US but they are popular in the US on similar levels to Harry potter is in the UK. Also Inception had great legs and held up week after week in fact it open to only $62 mil and drop only 32 percent in it's 2nd week which is amazing Skyfall drop 53% i believe. Skyfall will may drop quiet hard this weekend as most film do after thanksgiving but many are predicting that Skyfall will return to number in the US this weekend. Due to twilight dropping loads.

    this weekend my prediction US

    1. Skyfall $16 mil ish drops 50 to 55%
    2. Twilight $15 mil ish drop 65%

    the rest behind Lincoln may threaten them but unlikely.
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    edited November 2012 Posts: 2,015
    BondBug wrote:
    You were laughed at. You were mocked. But who had the last laugh? You were right and most people were wrong.

    You won't find a single comment from me laughing at that figure. My only comment on that figure was to say that because of China unpredictability almost to 100M$ variability, it was IMHO pointless to argue whether the final will be 800M$ or 900M$.

    On the contrary, I wrote strong posts against someone who was very arrogant in saying there was no way Skyfall would reach such figures...

    Well, that's maybe why I have no shame in criticizing him about other topics :) (LTK "a flop", adjustment on some lists and not on some others etc.. )




  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    There's no way Craig's getting a $30million basic for Bond 24. No way.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,967
    doubleoego wrote:
    There's no way Craig's getting a $30million basic for Bond 24. No way.

    Like I said earlier, I'm pretty sure the person who posted that mistyped or something. I read $20 million the other day.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    htall90 wrote:
    The lowest form of wit :))
    Yet seemingly the hardest to pick up on.
  • Suivez_ce_parachuteSuivez_ce_parachute
    edited November 2012 Posts: 2,015
    Creasy47 wrote:
    Like I said earlier, I'm pretty sure the person who posted that mistyped or something. I read $20 million the other day.
    Adjusted for 2014 or not ? :)

    Ok, more "seriously", forgetting inflation (and which one, it's a nightmare to decide) enables the PR machine to boast new records every year. People are more interested to read "Skyfall passes Titanic" than to read "New computations by Statistic Inc. show that Sound of Music did more than Gone with the Wind" (I just invented that).

    But well, the trouble is that even a serious journalist, who, morever starts his paper with consideration about inflation, can't help finishing with :

    "This means that Sam Mendes, bless his cotton socks, has steered James Bond to his first $200m-plus box office performance in North America after almost 50 years of trying. "

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/nov/26/us-box-office-thanksgiving-skyfall

    Incredible, after just having explained how difficult it is to compare over a few years, he can't help throwing Bondmania and 50 years of history in the dustbin !

  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
    Posts: 2,782
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    htall90 wrote:
    The lowest form of wit :))
    Yet seemingly the hardest to pick up on.


    That's disgusting.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    doubleoego wrote:
    There's no way Craig's getting a $30million basic for Bond 24. No way.

    Daniel Craig is said to have received 31 million pounds for two new James Bond movies and it makes him the highest-paid British actor, as well as the best paid 007 superspy.

    Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/daniel-craig-best-paid-bond-actor/1/230139.html
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    31million for 2 films not 1. This is why I said he's not getting 30 fir Bond 24. So this in effect means he's getting 15 odd million each, which makes much more sense.
  • Comte_de_BleuvilleComte_de_Bleuville
    Posts: 108
    It might be interesting to look at this worldwide admissions graph at this stage. It's from a few years ago, it will be interesting to see an updated version to include Skyfall, which we know to be doing substantially better than even CR.

    world_admissions.png
  • htall90htall90
    Posts: 277
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    htall90 wrote:
    The lowest form of wit :))
    Yet seemingly the hardest to pick up on.

    Lol very true i feel like a right idiot lol so gullible ha!
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
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    I like this graph. Guess how it will look end of 2013 :-P:

    8142445708_683fa658e1_b.jpg
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2012 Posts: 13,355
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote:
    On the contrary, I wrote strong posts against someone who was very arrogant in saying there was no way Skyfall would reach such figures...

    Me.

    Better to just say who it is. I have no shame over the issue. I was wrong but so were God knows how many others.
    Comte_de_Bleuville wrote:
    It might be interesting to look at this worldwide admissions graph at this stage. It's from a few years ago, it will be interesting to see an updated version to include Skyfall, which we know to be doing substantially better than even CR.

    world_admissions.png

    Must be over 100 million by the end, yes?
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote:
    On the contrary, I wrote strong posts against someone who was very arrogant in saying there was no way Skyfall would reach such figures...

    Me.

    Better to just say it. I have no shame over the issue.

    Hands up. Me too.

    Although to say you knew it was going to make £900m I would argue is more arrogant ;) Not even Sony would have predicted this.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2012 Posts: 13,355
    RC7 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote:
    On the contrary, I wrote strong posts against someone who was very arrogant in saying there was no way Skyfall would reach such figures...

    Me.

    Better to just say it. I have no shame over the issue.

    Hands up. Me too.

    Although to say you knew it was going to make £900m I would argue is more arrogant ;) Not even Sony would have predicted this.

    Well, I'm arrogant. There you have it.

    What's even funnier is the $900 million figure could even be deemed 'wrong' if Skyfall earns $1 billion.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Samuel001 wrote:
    RC7 wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Suivez_ce_parachute wrote:
    On the contrary, I wrote strong posts against someone who was very arrogant in saying there was no way Skyfall would reach such figures...

    Me.

    Better to just say it. I have no shame over the issue.

    Hands up. Me too.

    Although to say you knew it was going to make £900m I would argue is more arrogant ;) Not even Sony would have predicted this.

    Well, I'm arrogant. There you have it.

    What's even funnier is the $900 million figure could even be deemed 'wrong' if Skyfall earns $1 billion.

    Me too. Here's to a billion. <:-P
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2012 Posts: 13,355
    Did anyone guess $1 billion? If they did that would make G_G arrogant as well.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    lets be honest Gustav was the only one who saw this coming, and to be fair it didn't seem likely before it was released.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    lets be honest Gustav was the only one who saw this coming, and to be fair it didn't seem likely before it was released.

    Stevie Wonder could have said he'd seen it coming. Doesn't mean he did.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,967
    So $15.5 million for 'Bond 24' and the same for 'Bond 25.'

    Is this just part of some dual film contract agreement or something? He made $17 million for SF, so why wouldn't he receive $34 (or even more) for both of the upcoming films?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited November 2012 Posts: 13,355
    In GBP sterling, his fees seem to be:

    CR: £2M
    QOS: £5M
    SF: £8M
    24: £15M
    25: £15M

    That means the rumoured £12M for the next film was renegotiated. Maybe Bond 26 is when the fees would really go up?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited November 2012 Posts: 40,967
    I really need to get around to understanding the difference between $ and £.

    @Samuel001, if a new actor comes in for 'Bond 26,' though, don't you think the fees would go down? I would surmise they would start small for a newer actor, and go from there.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Yes, of course they'd drop but this only means more money to spend elsewhere. I was implying if Craig were to stay on.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    Posts: 11,119
    By the way, yesterday I was reading this fantastic article. It basically sums up the entire creative atmosphere of this 23rd Bond production. You can 'see' it, 'feel' it in every aspect of 'Skyfall'. It's a great Bond film, true. But from a cinematic perspective it's much more than that. It's an almost perfect standalone espionage thriller that....'accidently' is about this character named Bond.

    I admit, it has always been a deep profound wish inside my fastbeating cinematic heart to see such a movie. Well, when I heard who the cast members were, actors and crew, I already thought: 'Hmmm, this will be a bit different from previous Bond films. Babs and Michael want to escape the Bond clichés and upgrade the franchise to trendleading, Oscar-potential moviestuff. And at the same time they want a Thunderball-esque moneybomb''. Well, It worked...

    The article ;-):
    IndieWire wrote:
    IMMERSED IN MOVIES: CINEMATOGRAPHER DEAKINS TALKS 'SKYFALL'

    by Bill Desowitz

    With the record-breaking "Skyfall" (perhaps even the first billion dollar Bond) generating lots of Oscar buzz, is there any doubt that acclaimed cinematographer Roger Deakins will receive his 10th nomination? Not after turning in the most stunning-looking Bond movie in its illustrious 50-year history. The funny thing is: Deakins was by no means a Bond fan when director Sam Mendes approached him for the third time. But the script was too good and the opportunity was too enticing to turn him down. And like Mendes, Deakins is proud of the fact that "Skyfall" works on its own terms. Indeed, it's very much a Mendes movie: orphan story, existential crisis, doppelganger tale, love letter to London, and dialectic between the old and the new.

    "I think very much that Sam wanted to make it a movie rather than one in a series," Deakins suggests. "But a Bond movie is full of icons and I hadn't worked in England for so long. It is a combination of the old and the new and it is a fine line, and Sam wanted it to be as much of a character piece as an action movie. Obviously you have to have all the traditional elements of a Bond movie but Sam's strength is development of character, and that's certainly what attracts me to any movie.

    "We really talked through the script a lot and how it evolved and the shade of it and gradually you look at locations and [production designer] Dennis Gassner started showing us set design and talking through it is a prolonged, organic process. I had more prep on this film than I've had on anything, really."

    However, the first major decision was to shoot digitally with the Arri Alexa -- a first for Bond. Deakins is a recent digital convert, having shot the sci-fi indie, "In Time," with the Alexa. Still, he had to first convince Mendes and producers Michael Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. "When Sam approached me to do 'Skyfall,' I thought the style he wanted and the situations we were going to be in would be suitable for digital. I showed him some footage and, to be frank, I was quite nervous about making that decision because I'd only done one film on it but I have absolutely no regrets." Even so, the exterior yacht scene proved the most daunting because of such harsh sunlight, but Deakins still achieved a pleasant result.

    "The first camera they brought out had an electronic viewfinder and that for me is anathema. I just can't work that way and Arri was always intending to bring out a studio camera with an optical viewfinder, but because of the economic times they pulled back doing it. So we had the first two prototypes with the optical viewfinder. I basically think digital now has more advantages than film."

    As for converting to IMAX, which boasts 26% more visual information, Deakins was pleasantly surprised. "We shot 2.35 but because of the size of the chip, you’ve got so much space top and bottom that basically I shot it for both formats. But the IMAX was clean and the image quality is fantastic."

    With "Skyfall," the franchise is definitely more grounded and theatrical but still pushed. Visually, Deakins says you make decisions about 007's emotional arc (a first during the Daniel Craig of a more conflicted, post-modern Bond) and the conflicts he encounters during his journey. For example, during the action-packed pre-credit sequence in sun-drenched Istanbul, where Bond is at the top if his game and then struck down, the idea was to overexpose everything to get that feeling of the blown out look combined with the final timing in the DI. "We were very lucky because most of that was done in a big exterior set at Pinewood," Deakins notes, "and we were shooting in March with two weeks of full sunlight. So we were incredibly [fortunate] to get that hot, dry, sunny look that we needed."

    By contrast, there's more of a gray, soft look to London, which is depicted in a more traditional, underground fashion. Then it's on to Shanghai, which is "the brave new world." "It was interesting to have that much time in prep and to go to places like Shanghai to look at the possibilities, but in the end most of that we did in Pinewood," Deakins continues.

    It was still valuable because they captured the modernistic essence of Shanghai, with the blue neon LED advertising screens from skyscrapers outside the office tower where Bond fights henchman Patrice (Ola Rapace) in silhouette. "The original idea was to shoot it on location in Shanghai but you couldn't find a place with that kind of light source, so Dennis and I talked about doing it on stage with big LED signs so that we could control it and that's how it evolved. But it's based on that look of Shanghai."

    With Macao you're evoking a much older and mysterious world. The Floating Dragon Casino has a seductive golden aura while the Dead City lair of baddie Silva (Javier Bardem) is based on Hashima Island off Japan with its undisturbed concrete buildings." I think that's why the film's so powerful because it's based on things that are very real, even when it's shot on stage," Deakins adds.

    Meanwhile, with the climax in Scotland, we're going back in time to Bond's early roots at Skyfall while echoing the beginning of the franchise. "Scotland is very interesting," Deakins says, "because it's a mixture of shooting on location and in a built house that wasn't in Scotland, and then actually doing model work and shooting in a studio with a fake burning house. That was a huge collage of different techniques, shot several weeks apart, to make it seem like a seamless piece of action."

    It's the old and the new, indeed, for Bond. But it would be a brave new world if Deakins actually snared his elusive Oscar.

  • Comte_de_BleuvilleComte_de_Bleuville
    edited November 2012 Posts: 108
    Isn't it £31m not $31m?
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    thelivingroyale wrote:
    lets be honest Gustav was the only one who saw this coming, and to be fair it didn't seem likely before it was released.
    Germanlady wrote:
    doubleoego wrote:
    There's no way Craig's getting a $30million basic for Bond 24. No way.

    Daniel Craig is said to have received 31 million pounds for two new James Bond movies and it makes him the highest-paid British actor, as well as the best paid 007 superspy.

    Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/daniel-craig-best-paid-bond-actor/1/230139.html

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,967
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Yes, of course they'd drop but this only means more money to spend elsewhere. I was implying if Craig were to stay on.

    Ahhh, okay, my apologies on that.
  • RC7RC7
    edited November 2012 Posts: 10,512
    Gustav_Graves wrote:
    It's an almost perfect standalone espionage thriller that....'accidently' is about this character named Bond.

    Espionage is nothing like this so I would have to strongly disagree.

    Thanks for posting the article, it was a good read.
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    edited November 2012 Posts: 6,601
    Thanks GG, good inside view about how things got together and how another talent was taken in by the script and its opportunities.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    forgotmyusername wrote:
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    htall90 wrote:
    The lowest form of wit :))
    Yet seemingly the hardest to pick up on.


    That's disgusting.

    Are you just here to troll or do you actually want to join in an intelligent discussion?
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