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  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    VBM398 wrote:
    ******* Twilight. I hate it since the day it was released. Ever since, I have to put up with teen girls saying that the Twilight movies are the best ever and that the man that plays the main vampire ( dont remenber the name) is so cute. Thank god high school is OVER. Bond will do great. he is the best.

    Mod edit: watch the language!

    When you grow up you'll perhaps learn the art of compromis otherwise you are going to spend some lonely nights on Saturdaynight and such.

    James Bond is not the best, he's entertaining in most of his movies but there have been plenty of better movies around.

    Try to tell me something better than From Russia With Love or Casino Royale (not ranked as Bond films, but as films in general).

    Grade A, classic films.

    FRWL IS classic, CR is not. Hitchcock's films are equally as classic and entertaining by the way. If you want a spy like entertainment, how about North By Northwest, which even FRWL itself is guilty of homaging.
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    **HMSS has updated a new article: http://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2012/04/09/some-recent-007-u-s-box-office-statistics/

    And it turns out.. Quantum of Solace was beat out after its first weekend at #1 to.... Twilight. (The first film)


    Change anybody's thoughts?

    That doesn't change my opinions at all. QoS got ransacked by a lot critically, especially Bond fans, so the common opinion swept through and Twilight took in more $$$. It doesn't make it the lesser film by any standard. Plus, Skyfall has the big 50 on its side, as well as a damn perfect cast and crew of colossal proportions.
  • VBM398VBM398
    edited April 2012 Posts: 154
    0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 wrote:
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    VBM398 wrote:
    ******* Twilight. I hate it since the day it was released. Ever since, I have to put up with teen girls saying that the Twilight movies are the best ever and that the man that plays the main vampire ( dont remenber the name) is so cute. Thank god high school is OVER. Bond will do great. he is the best.

    Mod edit: watch the language!

    When you grow up you'll perhaps learn the art of compromis otherwise you are going to spend some lonely nights on Saturdaynight and such.

    James Bond is not the best, he's entertaining in most of his movies but there have been plenty of better movies around.

    Try to tell me something better than From Russia With Love or Casino Royale (not ranked as Bond films, but as films in general).

    Grade A, classic films.

    FRWL IS classic, CR is not. Hitchcock's films are equally as classic and entertaining by the way. If you want a spy like entertainment, how about North By Northwest, which even FRWL itself is guilty of homaging.
    JWESTBROOK wrote:
    **HMSS has updated a new article: http://hmssweblog.wordpress.com/2012/04/09/some-recent-007-u-s-box-office-statistics/

    And it turns out.. Quantum of Solace was beat out after its first weekend at #1 to.... Twilight. (The first film)


    Change anybody's thoughts?

    That doesn't change my opinions at all. QoS got ransacked by a lot critically, especially Bond fans, so the common opinion swept through and Twilight took in more $$$. It doesn't make it the lesser film by any standard. Plus, Skyfall has the big 50 on its side, as well as a damn perfect cast and crew of colossal proportions.

    Sorry about the language. It will not happen again, really sorry.
    Art of comprimis? Sounds interesting
    Lonely saturday nights? Not a problem ( if you know what i mean) just kidding. I have a girlfriend and she loves Twilight. I never say these thing in front of her. If she only knew. I was just letting it out. Sorry
    I think Skyfall will do fine, even against Twilight
  • casino007casino007
    Posts: 6
    Skyfall will not fail - period.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    casino007 wrote:
    Skyfall will not fail - period.

    Quite the optimist! I love explanations that begin and end with period.
  • JWESTBROOKJWESTBROOK
    Posts: 5,745
    Based on MI6's new article, I'd like to *bump* this discussion. The article is linked in the original post and here:

    http://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/bond_23_boxoffice_competition.php3?t=&s=&id=03184
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
    Posts: 2,252
    Profits will be boosted heaps by setting the movie in China, the biggest market for pretty much everything these days just by sheer population.

    I can't think of anything that would make SF a flop or not surpass CR in profits.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,718
    the only thing that Skyfall may 'fail' at is at the audience/critics reaction, even if the possibilities of that are quite small. SF's box office is pretty much bulletproof.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited June 2012 Posts: 24,183
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    Volante wrote:
    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    actonsteve wrote:
    Its not going to be another smart ass cgi fest - Craig doesn't do those.

    So he didn't do Cowboys & Aliens then ?

    I didn't mind Cowboys & Aliens. It was entertaining.

    CGI or not, SF will be amazing.
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    SF will be the best Bond movie in 10 years (since the glorious DAD) and will earn atleast 600 million.
    casino007 wrote:
    Skyfall will not fail - period.

    Care to explain why? You can't ever be sure of these things.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited June 2012 Posts: 15,718
    I think people who are constantly saying Skyfall will be a 'perfect Bond film' and 'the best Bond film ever', will either be overjoyed by the film, or completly disappointed if the film does not meet their expectations.

    Some here will probably be very happy if we get a 'good' Bond outing, but those who are expecting a 'perfect outing' will be disappointed even if the film is just 'good'.

    Those who over-hype the film have a 50% chance of loving the film and a 50% chance of hating the film. Those who who have lower expectations will see their chances of being happy with the film increase. The more you hype, the more chances you have of being disappointed.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited June 2012 Posts: 12,837
    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    I think people who are constantly saying Skyfall will be a 'perfect Bond film' and 'the best Bond film ever', will either be overjoyed by the film, or completly disappointed if the film does not meet their expectations.

    Some here will probably be very happy if we get a 'good' Bond outing, but those who are expecting a 'perfect outing' will be disappointed even if the film is just 'good'.

    Those who over-hype the film have a 50% chance of loving the film and a 50% chance of hating the film. Those who who have lower expectations will see their chances of being happy with the film increase. The more you hype, the more chances you have of being disappointed.

    I pointed this out on the news tidbits thread after somebody posted an article with reasons saying "why SF could be the best Bond film ever". It's almost impossible to live up to this level of hype, I'll be happy if it's good but there are some people who are so certain it'll be perfect, they could be let down. The new Batman film has the same problem and Prometheus had that problem.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    We just had loads of articles these last weeks on the subject why the Dutch will not lose from the Germans and then the Portugese. And guess what the reasons truend out to be BS.
    The same applies to Bond23, if the movie is any good people will go and see it. If it is such a mess as QoS, which seems hardly possible, people will stay away. It all comes down to we shall see.
    It would surprise me if it flopped because the brand of 007 does a lot of BO business.
  • robboadamrobboadam
    Posts: 224
    Better get this started up again in time for the official figures.

    So when do we get the figures from Friday?
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/james-bond-movie-skyfall-in-britain-smashes-opening-box-officerecords/
  • crisssbitcrisssbit
    Posts: 20
    I found this on an Italian blog specialised in Box Office results. I do not know the reliability of the data, though...

    Source: http://boxofficebenful.blogspot.it


    Opening Box Office for Skyfall:
    6.3m GBP confirmed for Friday Oct. 26th,
    + 7.2m GBP for Saturday Oct. 27th
    for a total of 13.5m GBP in two days.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    edited October 2012 Posts: 2,044
    http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/james-bond-movie-skyfall-in-britain-smashes-opening-box-officerecords/

    20 million pounds. Not bad, not bad at all. For a physical wreck! ;)
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    Doesn't appear that Bond has missed a step at the Box Office!
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited October 2012 Posts: 13,355
    Biggest opening day ever for the UK? Great! Bond does it again. :D

    Can't wait to see the international results later.

    1. $1,037,291,060.32 - Thunderball
    2. $932,346,267.74 - Goldfinger
    3. $843,280,463.96 - Live And Let Die
    4. $773,204,227.54 - You Only Live Twice
    5. $707,967,950.50 - The Spy Who Loved Me
    6. $682,098,608.86 - Casino Royale
    7. $670,341,133.13 - Moonraker
    8. $662,795,358.02 - Diamonds Are Forever
    9. $629,928,504.77 - Quantum Of Solace
    10. $596,667,068.63 - From Russia With Love
    11. $555,648,360.42 - Die Another Day
    12. $534,777,984.42 - GoldenEye
    13. $517,040,163.49 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    14. $502,584,334.85 - The World Is Not Enough
    15. $497,181,376.24 - For Your Eyes Only
    16. $480,131,415.66 - Tomorrow Never Dies
    17. $458,120,146.04 - The Man With The Golden Gun
    18. $456,431,419.48 - Dr. No
    19. $435,630,647.59 - Octopussy
    20. $389,480,795.77 - The Living Daylights
    21. $339,368,258.36 - A View To A Kill
    22. $291,436,616.45 - Licence To Kill
    23. $? - Skyfall
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    I would like to know comparisons with Potter and Dark Knight. Anybody?
  • ThepastykidThepastykid
    Posts: 553
    Boxofficemojo.com is the site I use to get that sort of stuff
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Germanlady wrote:
    I would like to know comparisons with Potter and Dark Knight. Anybody?

    The is the biggest opening ever for the UK. Higher than both those films.
  • ThepastykidThepastykid
    Posts: 553
    Oh I see just for UK opening. Box Office Mojo won't have that.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Bond as you could expect always does extremely well at home.
  • Gustav_GravesGustav_Graves
    edited October 2012 Posts: 11,119
    Germanlady wrote:
    I would like to know comparisons with Potter and Dark Knight. Anybody?

    My list with comparable franchises, updated as of October 28th. Mind if we compare some similar franchises and its box office successes. Because I also love the James Bond franchise from the perspective of my own job (marketing)? :

    01) $1,076,999,996 -- 'The Dark Knight Rises' (2012)
    domestic (US) gross: $446,861,181 - 41.5%
    foreign (rest) gross: $630,800,000 - 58.5%

    02) $1,003,045,358 -- 'The Dark Knight' (2008)
    domestic (US) gross: $534,858,444 - 53.2%
    foreign (rest) gross: $469,700,000 - 46.8%

    03) $825,532,764 -- 'Inception' (2010)
    domestic (US) gross: $292,576,195 - 35.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $532,956,569 - 64.6%

    04) $786,636,033 -- 'Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull' (2008)
    domestic (US) gross: $317,101,119 - 40.3%
    foreign (rest) gross: $469,534,914 - 59.7%

    05) $694,713,380 -- 'Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol' (2011)
    domestic (US) gross: $209,397,903 - 30.1%
    foreign (rest) gross: $485,315,477 - 69.9%

    06) $594,239,066 -- 'Casino Royale' (2006)
    domestic (US) gross: $167,445,960 - 28.1%
    foreign (rest) gross: $426,793,106 - 71.8%

    07) $586,090,727 -- 'Quantum Of Solace' (2008)
    domestic (US) gross: $168,368,427 - 28.7%
    foreign (rest) gross: $417,722,300 - 71.3%

    08) $546,388,105 -- 'Mission: Impossible II' (2000)
    domestic (US) gross: $215,409,889 - 39.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $330,978,216 - 60.6%

    09) $543,848,418 -- 'Sherlock Holmes II: A Game Of Shadows' (2011)
    domestic (US) gross: $186,848,418 - 34.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $357,000,000 - 65.6%

    10) $524,028,679 -- 'Sherlock Holmes I' (2009)
    domestic (US) gross: $209,028,679 - 39.9%
    foreign (rest) gross: $315,000,000 - 60.1%

    11) $478,207,520 -- 'Mr. And Mrs. Smith' (2005)
    domestic (US) gross: $186,336,279 - 39.0%
    foreign (rest) gross: $291,871,241 - 61.0%

    12) $442,824,138 -- 'The Bourne Ultimatum' (2007)
    domestic (US) gross: $227,471,070 - 51.4%
    foreign (rest) gross: $215,353,068 - 48.6%

    13) $431,971,116 -- 'Die Another Day' (2002)
    domestic (US) gross: $160,942,139 - 37.3%
    foreign (rest) gross: $271,028,977 - 62.7%

    14) $397,850,012 -- 'Mission: Impossible III' (2006)
    15) $383,531,464 -- 'Live Free Or Die Hard' (2007)
    16) $372,710,015 -- 'Batman Begins' (2005)
    17) $293,503,354 -- 'Salt' (2010)
    18) $288,500,217 -- 'The Bourne Supremacy' (2004)
    19) $287,239,968 -- 'Taken 2' (2012)
    20) $285,444,603 -- 'Lethal Weapon 4' (1998)
    21) $277,448,382 -- 'xXx' (2002)
    22) $239,370,105 -- 'The Bourne Legacy' (2012)
    23) $226,830,568 -- 'Taken' (2009)
    24) $214,034,224 -- 'The Bourne Identity' (2002)
    25) $207,884,401 -- 'Safe House' (2012)
    26) $199,006,387 -- 'Red' (2010)
    27) $177,238,796 -- 'The A-Team' (2010)
    28) $118,063,304 -- 'The Saint' (1997)
    29) $99,965,792 -- 'Hitman' (2007)
    30) $80,630,608 -- 'Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy' (2011)
    31) $71,022,693 -- 'xXx: State Of The Union' (2005)
    32) $70,692,101 -- 'Ronin' (1998)
    33) $60,965,854 -- 'Colombiana' (2011)
    34) $60,161,391 -- 'The International' (2009)
    35) $52,826,594 -- 'From Paris With Love' (2010)
    36) $50,732,945 -- 'I Spy' (2002)
    37) $16,933,380 -- 'The Heir Apparent: Largo Winch' (2011)

    And here a comparison with the years when there was a James Bond movie in cinema's. The rating is from highest worldwide gross to lowest worldwide gross. As you can see, the last three Bond films did not even come close to a TOP 7 spot. But I also made a prediction of what to expect for the 2012 bof office:

    My TOP 10 prediction of highest worldwide grossing films in 2012:
    01) $1,511,757,910 'The Avengers'
    02) $1,200,000,000 'The Hobbit' (Allthough I hope it narrowly beats 'The Avengers')
    03) $1,077,694,498 'The Dark Knight Rises'
    04) $ 900,000,000 'Skyfall'
    05) $ 867,133,985 'Ice Age: Continental Drift'
    06) $ 800,000,000 'The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn - Part 2'
    07) $ 752,216,557 'The Amazing Spider-Man'
    08) $ 700,450,734 'Madagascar 3'
    09) $ 686,533,290 'The Hunger Games'
    10) $ 624,026,776 'Men In Black III'

    2008:
    1) 'The Dark Knight'
    2) 'Iron Man'
    3) 'Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull'
    4) 'Hancock'
    5) 'WALL*E'
    9) 'Quantum Of Solace'

    2006:
    1) 'Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest'
    2) 'Night At The Museum'
    3) 'Cars'
    4) 'X-Men: The Last Stand'
    5) 'The Da Vinci Code'
    9) 'Casino Royale'

    2002:
    1) 'Spider-Man'
    2) 'The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers'
    3) 'Star Wars: Episode II - Attack Of The Clones'
    4) 'Harry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets'
    5) 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding'
    12) 'Die Another Day'

  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Germanlady wrote:
    I would like to know comparisons with Potter and Dark Knight. Anybody?

    The is the biggest opening ever for the UK. Higher than both those films.

    @Gustav - thanks for providing the numbers, but I meant the opening numbers and Sam, I am not sure, they wold have smashed the other films, too, because the reference was going to the Bond films only.

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    Posts: 13,355
    Just checked, the last Harry Potter has the record at £23m. Bond may just take it back.
  • robboadamrobboadam
    Posts: 224
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Just checked, the last Harry Potter has the record at £23m. Bond may just take it back.

    But is it really gonna take £10m in one day (ie today)?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited October 2012 Posts: 13,355
    It will top £20, so it may get very near it. Eg. £22m vs £23m. Not too bad. ;)
  • GermanladyGermanlady
    Posts: 6,601
    And Potter has the crown? Not Avengers or Knight?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited October 2012 Posts: 13,355
    The Avengers is at £25, forgot about that one.

    There's nothing that tops that. Batman doesn't come close plus this was a May film.
  • MartinBondMartinBond Trying not to muck it up again
    edited October 2012 Posts: 862
    thought this was quite an interresting figure:

    October 19–21 £15,689,449 +50.5% 55 Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted
    October 12–14 £10,382,835 -30.4% 53 Taken 2
    October 5–7 £14,863,329 +56.8% 54 Taken 2

    Lucky Guess:
    October 26-28 £21,800,000(?) Skyfall

    Any undated numbers?

    and just to compare:

    November 21–23 £8,681,025 -22.4% 68 Quantum of Solace
    November 14–16 £11,325,772 -27.3% 71 Quantum of Solace
    November 7–9 £14,681,598 -36.4% 70 Quantum of Solace
    Oct 31–November 2 £22,452,380 +33.6% 76 Quantum of Solace
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