Skyfall: Billion Dollar Bond

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  • SandySandy Somewhere in Europe
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    Great news folks!
  • edited December 2012 Posts: 277
    Skyfall is also the first film since How to train your dragon in April 2010 to hit no1 in it's 5th weekend in the US. Many records where broken this weekend considering it was such a weak weekend at the box office.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    The 23rd Bond film currently holds the 23rd spot on the worldwide BO list.
  • edited December 2012 Posts: 546
    Skyfall deserves it! It was a great Bond film & it's doing well at the box office. I predict Skyfall will reach the $1 billion mark within a couple of week's.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I just had to make this:

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  • When you think about how big Sony is, this really is an achievement.

    Breaking a billion and eventually beating Batman would be the icing on the cake now.
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    When you think about how big Sony is, this really is an achievement.

    Breaking a billion and eventually beating Batman would be the icing on the cake now.

    Only gonna happen if Skyfall is huge in China.

  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    $950 million before China would mean we'd need $130 million there to beat The Dark Knight Rises, a big ask. Unless we do more than $950 million before then, that's always possible.
  • htall90 wrote:
    When you think about how big Sony is, this really is an achievement.

    Breaking a billion and eventually beating Batman would be the icing on the cake now.

    Only gonna happen if Skyfall is huge in China.

    Yeah maybe beating Batman is a bit too much to hope for.

    Making over a billion would be cool though, and I think that could still happen.
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
    edited December 2012 Posts: 2,635
    So, it is possible to SF hit 1bi with China? Any other countries left?
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    X3MSonicX wrote:
    So, it is possible to SF hit 1bi with China?

    yh i think it will hit a billion maybe $1.02 billion w.w.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    It's almost guaranteed I would say. If the record smashing numbers continue there as well, it's a lock.

    As long as we take down Thunderball. If not, how about a re-release?
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    China is a hard market for Skyfall to be a huge hit i mean this weekend Life of Pi has made $68 mil in china in 3 weeks more the Batman and spiderman this year final gross amazing really for Life of Pi.
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    Fantastic numbers continue i see? My only thoughts with China are this? Are the film reviews out there given to the public or not? Whether good or bad? As we know foreign films are at a premium so they can protect their own movie industry? Word of mouth has a big part to play in this films success!
  • edited December 2012 Posts: 2,015
    htall90 wrote:
    China is a hard market for Skyfall to be a huge hit i mean this weekend Life of Pi has made $68 mil in china in 3 weeks more the Batman and spiderman this year final gross amazing really for Life of Pi.
    It is said China "loves" 3D. Released at the same time as Life of Pi, the 3D version of Emmerich's 2012, converted especially for China, is currently doing about 25M$... (and yes, the 2D version was released there too, already making 70M$ there in 2010).

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    Samuel001 wrote:
    It's almost guaranteed I would say. If the record smashing numbers continue there as well, it's a lock.

    As long as we take down Thunderball. If not, how about a re-release?

    I did say this a few pages back about a re-release, maybe in next summer have a IMAX re-release? Avatar got one.

    Or maybe a back-to-back feature with Casino Royale?



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    Kananga wrote:
    Samuel001 wrote:
    It's almost guaranteed I would say. If the record smashing numbers continue there as well, it's a lock.

    As long as we take down Thunderball. If not, how about a re-release?

    I did say this a few pages back about a re-release, maybe in next summer have a IMAX re-release? Avatar got one.

    Or maybe a back-to-back feature with Casino Royale?



    It'd be nice, but don't hold out hope.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    How great would it be to have the "Mother" arc of CR, QoS and Skyfall all in IMAX back to back to back?! Wow, I need to stop, my heart is going nuts at the thought of it.
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    I believe, China won't bring in more then about 50 mill - not enough action, not 3 D, way into the films run, hence pirates etc. I predict, it will be short of reaching the billion - unfortunately,. Hopefully this will be wproved wrong, as so many predictions have..
  • Germanlady wrote:
    I believe, China won't bring in more then about 50 mill - not enough action, not 3 D, way into the films run, hence pirates etc. I predict, it will be short of reaching the billion - unfortunately,. Hopefully this will be wproved wrong, as so many predictions have..

    True. But how about IMAX in China? I don't find details about IMAX theatres in China.

    Still, one has to take into account that the Chinese cinema audience is quite action oriented. Critical movies with critical themes are usually not finding their ways to the public. It is therefore logical that the Chinese cinema audience has been made deliberately dumber by the Chinese regime.

    So even if 'Skyfall' doesn't premiere up there? I couldn't care less. 'Casino Royale' and 'Quantum Of Solace' opened in China and banked quite some money. But I think it's even better to see 'Skyfall' performing so well without the Chinese regime.
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    China decides, whether or not, the film will have the icing on the cake - but yes, we are doing fine without it so far ;)
  • edited December 2012 Posts: 2,015
    Still, one has to take into account that the Chinese cinema audience is quite action oriented.

    Aren't you confusing with the exports from Hong Kong cinema ?

    And to make it brief, imported movies in China have to be animated or 3D or IMAX (in order to fill the large IMAX circuit there). Hence so many action movies from Hollywood there. And they're not all crushing the box office, far from it.
    Critical movies with critical themes are usually not finding their ways to the public.

    Current #1 and #2 (70% of the admissions) at the Chinese box office are Life of Pi and Back to 1942. Life of Pi I think everyone knows what it's about, and Back to 1942 is about millions of death during a famine in the country :



    "Critical movie with a critical theme", this one is closer to it than Skyfall, to say the least...

    More generally, there's a difference with being dumb, and doing propaganda (you fill brains with what you want rather than empty them actually).
    It is therefore logical that the Chinese cinema audience has been made deliberately dumber by the Chinese regime.

    Well, can you tell me in the current yearly US box office, at which rank is the first "critical movie with a critical theme" ? #24 with Argo ? The movie "based on historical facts" in which all the Canadians' critical involvment in the true story has totally disappeared in order to appeal to a US audience ? :)

    So even if 'Skyfall' doesn't premiere up there? I couldn't care less.

    The sponsors may disagree. It is said, for instance, Caterpilllar specifically had in mind China "only" when helping the producers. So I think there's quite some pressure to release it, even with strong censorship about everything related to China.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Well, since Shanghai does feature, don't you think China would be excited to see that?
  • Still, one has to take into account that the Chinese cinema audience is quite action oriented.

    Aren't you confusing with the exports from Hong Kong cinema ?

    And to make it brief, imported movies in China have to be animated or 3D or IMAX (in order to fill the large IMAX circuit there). Hence so many action movies from Hollywood there. And they're not all crushing the box office, far from it.
    Critical movies with critical themes are usually not finding their ways to the public.

    Current #1 and #2 (70% of the admissions) at the Chinese box office are Life of Pi and Back to 1942. Life of Pi I think everyone knows what it's about, and Back to 1942 is about millions of death during a famine in the country :



    "Critical movie with a critical theme", this one is closer to it than Skyfall, to say the least...

    More generally, there's a difference with being dumb, and doing propaganda (you fill brains with what you want rather than empty them actually).
    It is therefore logical that the Chinese cinema audience has been made deliberately dumber by the Chinese regime.

    Well, can you tell me in the current yearly US box office, at which rank is the first "critical movie with a critical theme" ? #24 with Argo ? The movie "based on historical facts" in which all the Canadians' critical involvment in the true story has totally disappeared in order to appeal to a US audience ? :)

    So even if 'Skyfall' doesn't premiere up there? I couldn't care less.

    The sponsors may disagree. It is said, for instance, Caterpilllar specifically had in mind China "only" when helping the producers. So I think there's quite some pressure to release it, even with strong censorship about everything related to China.

    I will comment later Mr France ;-).
  • edited December 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Still, one has to take into account that the Chinese cinema audience is quite action oriented. Critical movies with critical themes are usually not finding their ways to the public. It is therefore logical that the Chinese cinema audience has been made deliberately dumber by the Chinese regime.

    Action films that do well in China tend to be A) Chinese, and B) martial arts films.

    The goverment are dumbing down the Chinese cinema audience on purpose? Nah. That's just stupid.

    If SF isn't released over there it'll be thanks to Silva's backstory. Nothing to do with the nasty goverment wanting to dumb down the people by not exposing them to movies with critical themes.
  • edited December 2012 Posts: 2,015
    Well, since Shanghai does feature, don't you think China would be excited to see that?
    I've given many elements before, but in the end, I shall say again I find the box office of SF in China is really unpredictable IMO (first I said between 20 and 120, now I say between 0 and 120 !).

    It looks like the claimed "love for 3D" of China is real according to the box office of the last few months, so if SF is released facing the Hobbit 3D, it *may* be the biggest problem. But then again maybe China will not care about this fantasy movie on the contrary, and will look for a movie about Shanghai and Macau (with some censorship in the lines to remove all the talk about torture by officials in China, etc.). Plus many many things we don't know. IMO, MI:4 who was released in "ideal" conditions (lone US blockbusters for 4 weeks except for a Nicolas Cage movie that did not do well), give us an idea of the potential, but SF may have only a little part of this potential.




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    If every MI6 member sees SF one or more time at least then we should get close the magic billion without the rest of the world's help!
  • Posts: 203
    good suggestion LeChiffre ... I am in!
  • Posts: 87
    Me too. I've seen SF four times and I bought another ticket today :)
  • Posts: 277
    Can't afford to see it again spent £17 pound on a hobbit release day IMAX nah joking will see it again soon.
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