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It will be interesting to see if the news is true. Wonder Woman would be an interesting cameo.
My best mate and I talk about this Justice League film a lot, and we both hate the idea of having Batman in it. He is the best of the lot, obviously, and he is guaranteed to appear since he is the big cash cow for Warner Bros. as you said, but it just doesn't fit Batman's character. He is a loner, and not a big team player. I feel that given the choice between handling something alone or in a group he would choose the former. He is a hero that fights in the shadows, not out in the open. Criminals fear him because they are scared of what they don't see, the myth that Batman has become as he claims Gotham back from the crime world in the deep cover of the night. It then seems foolish that he would fight with other heroes in broad daylight, and ruin the mystery, but that's just me. He is the only one without superpowers of any kind and just seems out of place in a team photo. He seems to me to do everything his way and wouldn't want to follow the others into what could be a worse solution. And we all know that Batman always has the most pragmatic plans in the team. I just picture all the heroes at the table discussing the distressing plot of some villain, and Batman is standing far back in frame, away from everyone else and looking down at earth, the place he should be. Batman does great with Dick, Tim, Barbara and Jim, because they use his methods, there is years of trust there, they are handling only Gotham's problems and not the world's, and they aren't super-powered beings. When you try to take Batman and have him surrounded by super-powered titans going against these outlandish universal foes it just gets a little hard to take. I find Batman to be grounded more in reality than any others, hence why this idea makes me uncomfortable. It's just not what I see Batman doing, that's all.
Yes, its good after all these years to see that the Bond franchise, can still make a huge impact.......i mean other franchises come and go, and have there moments, but for a film series to be going so strongly after 50 years..is well, just incredible!......and thats why we love it...........correct?
It's still playing on 456 screens, the figures haven't been reported yet that's all. The final day will likely be Thursday 7th February, so two weeks of figures yet the come.
As of Thursday 'SF' had grossed an estimated $44.7 mil in China.
Therefore, by my reckoning, and excluding other markets 'SF' must be somewhere around the $1090 mil mark...........that is a shed load of money!
..........and up another place in the worldwide list i believe!
Film should soon pass $1.1 bil :)
I was expecting $90 Million from the China box office after its run there. But now the first week gross in China is known -an incredible $34.4 Million- that prediction might be a bit too careful.
Besides agent 007, it is perhaps funny to notice that 'Taken 2' managed to overtake another Christopher Nolan directed Batman-movie. 'Taken 2', starring ex-Bond girl Famke Janssen, now stands at $374,187,209, compared to the $372,710,015 from 'Batman Begins' (2005).
Note for the reader: Take in mind that for, more or less, accurate comparisons, most of the below action/spy movies are produced in 1987 or later. Actually, most of them were produced after the 1990's. All movies in this list are 2D movies!
Furthermore, I have updated the list in such a way now, so that you can also use it as a 'watchlist'. Movies with a '▪' are part of a spy/actionhero movie franchise. Movies with a '▫' are rebooted movies or remakes. Movies with a '∞' are based on previous tv-series.
The standings of the 'Spy/Action Movies-list', *UPDATED WEDNESDAY JANUARY 30TH 2013*:
001) $1,081,041,287 -- 'Batman 8: The Dark Knight Rises' (2012) IMDB: 8.8 ▪
_____domestic (US) gross: $448,139,099 - 41.5%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $632,902,188 - 58.5%
002) $1,078,544,126 -- 'JAMES BOND 23: SKYFALL' (2012, 97 DAYS IN CINEMAS) IMDB: 8.0 ▪
_____DOMESTIC (US) GROSS: $302,044,126 - 28.0%
_____FOREIGN (REST) GROSS: $776,500,000 - 72.0%
003) $1,004,558,444 -- 'Batman 7: The Dark Knight' (2008) IMDB: 9.0 ▪
_____domestic (US) gross: $534,858,444 - 53.2%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $469,700,000 - 46.8%
004) $825,532,764 -- 'Inception' (2010) IMDB: 8.8
_____domestic (US) gross: $292,576,195 - 35.4%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $532,956,569 - 64.6%
005) $786,636,033 -- 'Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull' (2008) IMDB: 6.4 ▪
_____domestic (US) gross: $317,101,119 - 40.3%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $469,534,914 - 59.7%
006) $694,713,380 -- 'Mission: Impossible 4 - Ghost Protocol' (2011) IMDB: 7.4 ▪ ∞
_____domestic (US) gross: $209,397,903 - 30.1%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $485,315,477 - 69.9%
007) $624,386,746 -- 'Hancock' (2008) IMDB: 6.5
_____domestic (US) gross: $227,946,274 - 36.5%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $396,440,472 - 63.5%
008) $599,045,960 -- 'James Bond 21: Casino Royale' (2006) IMDB: 7.9 ▪ ▫ ∞
_____domestic (US) gross: $167,445,960 - 28.0%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $431,600,000 - 72.0%
009) $586,090,727 -- 'James Bond 22: Quantum Of Solace' (2008) IMDB: 6.7 ▪
_____domestic (US) gross: $168,368,427 - 28.7%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $417,722,300 - 71.3%
010) $546,388,105 -- 'Mission: Impossible 2' (2000) IMDB: 5.9 ▪ ∞
_____domestic (US) gross: $215,409,889 - 39.4%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $330,978,216 - 60.6%
011) $543,848,418 -- 'Sherlock Holmes 2: A Game Of Shadows' (2011) IMDB: 7.6 ▪ ∞
_____domestic (US) gross: $186,848,418 - 34.4%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $357,000,000 - 65.6%
012) $524,028,679 -- 'Sherlock Holmes 1' (2009) IMDB: 7.5 ▪ ∞
_____domestic (US) gross: $209,028,679 - 39.9%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $315,000,000 - 60.1%
013) $478,207,520 -- 'Mr. And Mrs. Smith' (2005) IMDB: 6.4 ▪
_____domestic (US) gross: $186,336,279 - 39.0%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $291,871,241 - 61.0%
014) $474,171,806 -- 'Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade' (1989) IMDB: 8.3 ▪
_____domestic (US) gross: $197,171,806 - 41.6%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $277,000,000 - 58.4%
015) $457,696,359 -- 'Mission: Impossible' (1996) IMDB: 7.0 ▪ ∞
_____domestic (US) gross: $180,981,856 - 39.5%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $276,714,503 - 60.5%
016) $450,717,150 -- 'Ocean's Eleven' (2001) IMDB: 7.7 ▪ ▫
_____domestic (US) gross: $183,417,150 - 40.7%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $267,300,000 - 59.3%
017) $442,824,138 -- 'The Bourne Ultimatum' (2007) IMDB: 8.1 ▪
_____domestic (US) gross: $227,471,070 - 51.4%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $215,353,068 - 48.6%
018) $431,971,116 -- 'James Bond 20: Die Another Day' (2002) IMDB: 6.0 ▪
_____domestic (US) gross: $160,942,139 - 37.3%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $271,028,977 - 62.7%
019) $411,348,924 -- 'Batman 1' (1989) IMDB: 7.6 ▪ ▫ ∞
_____domestic (US) gross: $251,188,924 - 61.1%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $160,160,000 - 38.9%
020) $397,850,012 -- 'Mission: Impossible 3' (2006) IMDB: 6.8 ▪ ∞
_____domestic (US) gross: $134,029,801 - 33.7%
_____foreign (rest) gross: $263,820,211 - 66.3%
021) $383,531,464 -- 'Die Hard 4: Live Free Or Die Hard' (2007) IMDB: 7.4 ▪
022) $378,882,411 -- 'True Lies' (1994) IMDB: 7.2
023) $374,187,209 -- 'Taken 2' (2012) IMDB: 6.6 ▪
024) $372,710,015 -- 'Batman 6: Batman Begins' (2005) IMDB: 8.3 ▪ ▫
025) $366,101,666 -- 'Die Hard 3: Die Hard With A Vengeance' (1995) IMDB: 7.3 ▪
026) $362,744,280 -- 'Ocean's Twelve' (2004) IMDB: 6.2 ▪
027) $361,832,400 -- 'James Bond 19: The World Is Not Enough' (1999) IMDB: 6.3 ▪
028) $352,194,034 -- 'James Bond 17: GoldenEye' (1995) IMDB: 7.2 ▪
029) $352,114,312 -- 'Catch Me If You Can' (2002) IMDB: 7.9
030) $341,433,252 -- 'Wanted' (2008) IMDB: 6.7 ▪
031) $333,011,068 -- 'James Bond 18: Tomorrow Never Dies' (1997) IMDB: 6.4 ▪
032) $321,731,527 -- 'Lethal Weapon 3' (1992) IMDB: 6.6 ▪
033) $311,312,624 -- 'Ocean's Thirteen' (2007) IMDB: 6.9 ▪
034) $300,428,192 -- 'The Expendables 2' (2012) IMDB: 7.1 ▪
035) $293,503,354 -- 'Salt' (2010) IMDB: 6.4
036) $288,500,217 -- 'The Bourne Supremacy' (2004) IMDB: 7.7 ▪
037) $285,444,603 -- 'Lethal Weapon 4' (1998) IMDB: 6.5 ▪
038) $278,346,189 -- 'The Tourist' (2010) IMDB: 5.9
039) $277,448,382 -- 'xXx 1' (2002) IMDB: 5.7 ▪
040) $276,144,750 -- 'The Bourne Legacy' (2012) IMDB: 6.9 ▪
041) $274,470,394 -- 'The Expendables' (2010) IMDB: 6.5 ▪
042) $264,105,545 -- 'Charlie's Angels 1' (2000) IMDB: 5.5 ▪ ∞
043) $261,930,436 -- 'Knight And Day' (2010) IMDB: 6.3
044) $255,000,211 -- 'Cliffhanger' (1993) IMDB: 6.3
045) $259,175,788 -- 'Charlie's Angels 2: Full Throttle' (2003) IMDB: 4.7 ▪ ∞
046) $240,031,094 -- 'Die Hard 2: Die Harder' (1990) IMDB: 7.1 ▪
047) $230,685,453 -- 'Get Smart' (2007) IMDB: 6.6 ∞
048) $227,853,986 -- 'Lethal Weapon 2' (1989) IMDB: 7.1 ▪
049) $226,830,568 -- 'Taken' (2009) IMDB: 7.9 ▪
050) $217,764,291 -- 'Collateral' (2004) IMDB: 7.6
051) $215,887,717 -- 'Jack Ryan 3: Clear And Present Danger' (1994) IMDB: 6.8 ▪
052) $214,034,224 -- 'The Bourne Identity' (2002) IMDB: 7.9 ▪ ▫
053) $212,404,396 -- 'Entrapment' (1999) IMDB: 6.1
054) $207,884,401 -- 'Safe House' (2012) IMDB 6.8
055) $200,512,643 -- 'Jack Ryan 1: The Hunt For Red October' (1990) IMDB: 7.6 ▪
056) $199,006,387 -- 'Red' (2010) IMDB: 7.0
057) $193,921,372 -- 'Jack Ryan 4: The Sum Of All Fears' (2002) IMDB: 6.3 ▪
058) $191,185,897 -- 'James Bond 15: The Living Daylights' (1987) IMDB: 6.7 ▪
059) $189,246,033 -- 'Argo' (2012) IMDB: 8.3
060) $183,537,501 -- 'Jack Reacher' (2012) IMDB: 7.2
061) $178,051,587 -- 'Jack Ryan 2: Patriot Games' (1992) IMDB: 6.9 ▪
062) $177,238,796 -- 'The A-Team' (2010) IMDB: 6.8 ▪ ∞
063) $176,070,171 -- 'The Italian Job' (2003) IMDB: 6.9 ▪ ▫
064) $170,268,750 -- 'Starsky And Hutch' (2004) IMDB: 6.0 ∞
065) $159,330,280 -- 'The Jackal' (1997) IMDB: 6.1 ▫
066) $156,491,279 -- 'This Means War' (2012) IMDB: 6.3
067) $156,167,015 -- 'James Bond 16: Licence To Kill' (1989) IMDB: 6.5 ▪
068) $143,049,560 -- 'Spy Game' (2001) IMDB: 6.9
069) $140,767,956 -- 'Die Hard 1' (1988) IMDB: 8.3 ▪
070) $130,786,397 -- 'Unknown' (2011) IMDB: 6.9
071) $126,690,726 -- 'Law Abiding Citizen' (2009) IMDB: 7.3
072) $124,305,181 -- 'The Thomas Crown Affair' (1999) IMDB: 6.7 ▫
073) $120,207,127 -- 'Lethal Weapon 1' (1987) IMDB: 7.6 ▪
074) $118,063,304 -- 'The Saint' (1997) IMDB: 6.0 ∞
075) $115,097,286 -- 'Body Of Lies' (2008) IMDB: 7.1
076) $104,391,623 -- 'The Tuxedo' (2002) IMDB: 5.0
077) $101,191,884 -- 'The Recruit' (2003) IMDB: 6.5
078) $099,965,792 -- 'Hitman' (2007) IMDB: 6.2
079) $099,480,480 -- 'The Good Sheperd' (2007) IMDB: 6.8
080) $098,159,963 -- 'Killers' (2010) IMDB: 5.2
081) $096,105,964 -- 'The Manchurian Candidate' (2004) IMDB: 6.6 ▫
082) $094,882,549 -- 'Green Zone' (2010) IMDB: 6.9
083) $089,456,761 -- 'The Long Kiss Goodnight' (1996) IMDB: 6.7
084) $085,416,905 -- 'Max Payne' (2008) IMDB: 5.7
085) $082,087,155 -- 'Abduction' (2011) IMDB: 4.7
086) $080,630,608 -- 'Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy' (2011) IMDB: 7.1 ∞
087) $071,022,693 -- 'xXx 2: State Of The Union' (2005) IMDB: 4.1 ▪
088) $070,692,101 -- 'Ronin' (1998) IMDB: 7.2
089) $067,876,281 -- 'The American' (2010) IMDB: 6.4
090) $065,977,295 -- 'Bad Company' (2002) IMDB: 5.4
091) $060,965,854 -- 'Colombiana' (2011) IMDB: 6.2
092) $060,222,298 -- 'The Ghost Writer' (2010) IMDB: 7.3
093) $060,161,391 -- 'The International' (2009) IMDB: 6.5
094) $056,308,881 -- 'Lucky Number Slevin' (2007) IMDB: 7.8
095) $052,826,594 -- 'From Paris With Love' (2010) IMDB: 6.4
096) $051,070,807 -- 'The Mechanic' (2011) IMDB: 6.5
097) $050,732,945 -- 'I Spy' (2002) IMDB: 5.3 ∞
098) $044,548,542 -- 'Red Dawn' (2012) IMDB: 5.7
099) $041,771,168 -- 'The Informant!' (2009) IMDB: 6.5
100) $033,372,606 -- 'Haywire' (2012) IMDB: 5.9
101) $028,008,462 -- 'The Tailor Of Panama' (2001) IMDB: 6.1
102) $027,664,173 -- 'Traitor' (2008) IMDB: 7.0
103) $027,038,732 -- 'Rendition' (2007) IMDB: 6.8
104) $024,188,922 -- 'Fair Game' (2010) IMDB: 6.8
105) $019,924,033 -- 'Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever' (2002) IMDB: 3.5
106) $016,933,380 -- 'Largo Winch 1: The Heir Apparent' (2008) IMDB: 6.4
107) $015,705,007 -- 'Enigma' (2001) IMDB: 6.4
108) $014,046,075 -- 'Largo Winch 2' (2011) IMDB: 6.0
109) $008,112,712 -- 'Spartan' (2004) IMDB: 6.7
110) $000,933,549 -- 'Michel Vaillant' (2003) IMDB: 5.0
Going back to 'Skyfall'......the Thunderball-esque box office craziness has severe implications for the 'All Time Box Office'-list from BoxOfficeMojo.com (Yes @Suivez_ce_parachute, I am still using BoxOfficeMojo as a source. Because do you actually know how much work it is to update the entire list down below? Moreover, if you can see it as 'approximate figures' then it's not necessary to prove 'this' or 'that'. Have some fun/passion about 'Skyfall' ;-))
Because the newly published Chinese box office figures are in place now, 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey' is starting to lag behind a bit on 'Skyfall'. 'Skyfall' will keep rising on this list and it now has a good chance on ending 5th now, getting rid of 'Transformers: Dark Of The Moon' (2011) and 'The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King' (2003). This will then be a unique achievement for a 2D-film, with only 'Titanic' (1998) still higher on that list.
The standings of the 'All Time Box Office'-list are now:
01) $2,782.3 -- 'Avatar' (2009)
02) $2,185.4 -- 'Titanic' (1998) *2D*
03) $1,511.8 -- 'Marvel's The Avengers' (2012)
04) $1,328.1 -- 'Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 2' (2011)
05) $1,123.7 -- 'Transformers: Dark Of The Moon' (2011)
06) $1,119.9 -- 'The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King' (2003) *2D*
07) $1,081.0 -- 'The Dark Knight Rises' (2012) *2D*
08) $1,078.5 -- 'JAMES BOND - SKYFALL' (2012) *2D*
09) $1,066.2 -- 'Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest' (2006) *2D*
10) $1,063.2 -- 'Toy Story ' (2010)
20) $0,939.9 -- 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey' (2012)
It must have been released at the absolute right time with not much competition.
Oh dear just more wishful thinking!
Who here is writing this stuff????????????????????????????????????????????
No such claim has been made by the film trade, the BO sources, the studios or even EON!
As i wrote earlier, after i had contacted BO mojo, they themselves even said its impossible to calculate the inflation adjusted world wide box-office figures, because of different inflation rates in each country.
If you do want a very simple rough answer the average US ticket price is 8 x now that of 1965-1966.
If you apply that multiplication factor to 'TB's worldwide gross you get around $1130.
Now 'SF' is getting very close to that, and could well pass that by its end of run in 'China'
The point is that at present there is NO defintive worldwide BO adjusted inflation list, because it would take an insane amount of research to come up with the figures....and thats why some take the easy route out by just using the US consumer figure, or BO mojos own ticket price inflation method. Unfortunately this leads to a very large difference in results obtained.
Even the Guinness book of records only has a worldwide adjusted list, but it features only the top 10 films..........and i dont know which methology they used to obtain this.
:O
It has nothing to do with point scoring, but everything to do with misleading, unfounded news stories, based on no proof of facts.
Basically, a lie is being sold here, to suit a fanboys dream!
No.
You wrote "As i wrote earlier, after i had contacted BO mojo, they themselves even said its impossible to calculate the inflation adjusted world wide box-office figures, because of different inflation rates in each country."
So as much as it obviously bothers you that people say that SF has overtaken TB you can't prove that it hasn't. The fervour that you have to "prove" to people that they are wrong that SF has over-taken TB you should also apply to yourself when you say that it hasn't.
Source: http://www.jpbox-office.com/fichfilm.php?id=12100&affich=france&deplier=yes
By now, Skyfall is the 007th ranked highest grossing film of all time. That's sure to guarantee another 50 years of Bond;. Can you believe I actually heard a rumor that Skyfall was to be the last Bond and also that the Jason Bourne was the new 007. Hahahahahahaha. Not a chance.
I think it's gone past reasonable thinking. There seems to be a stigma attached to post sixties success, anything after is inferior and needs to be ripped apart to maintain the status quo, so no matter what Skyfall achieves it will never be deemed worthy by some.
01 --> $302,044,126: USA
02 --> $161,778,224: UK
03 --> $084,945,572: Germany
04 --> $060,069,449: France
05 --> $049,882,229: Australia
06 --> $044,700,000: China
07 --> $032,199,327: Japan
08 --> $025,241,686: Russia
09 --> $025,049,955: THE NETHERLANDS
10 --> $017,862,662: Sweden
11 --> $017,103,042: Italy
12 --> $016,050,743: South Korea
But most importantly, 'Skyfall' is now officially the most visited film after the 1997 2D blockbuster 'Titanic', according to Sony Pictures Netherlands. In just three months, more than 2.2 million Dutch visitors went to the cinema to see the 2rd James Bond film. http://www.nu.nl/film/3015242/skyfall-best-bezochte-film-in-nederland-sinds-2000.html
Looking at box office figures, 'Skyfall' is already the most popular film ever in The Netherlands, beating blockbusters like 'Titanic', 'Avatar' and 'Harry Potter': http://www.filmdistributeurs.nl/files/Top_1000_all_by_GBO_1991-2011.pdf
I'd say, a tiny country like The Netherlands deserves some location scouting for Bond 24 no ;-)?
I truly think its sad, that some people here are prepared to make up their own news stories to suit their own ends.
This is a Bond film site, not a SF fanboys site, its truly pathetic.
I dont give a damn which film is more successful, (well i would be taken aback if ever a 'Muppet' movie outgrossed Bond) but i do give a damn, when a tiny minority of members here continually abuse others, because they post facts which are contrary to thier own beliefs!
Remember, who made these unsubstanciated news stories in the first place.
All i can say is, if ever in the future a genuine news story is released from the film trade, saying film x made more money than film y, then it is going to make some people here look very foolish.....ISNT IT?
Well back on topic.........'SF' should reach another landmark by the end of this weekend ie hopefully reaching $1.1 billion.
:)
I think your tone is absolutely out of order here. You make it sound as if the Bond fans in here actually create this news. That's bullocks and you know it.
The fact that many people are enthusiastic about 'Skyfall', and in the meanwhile forget other great movies like 'Thunderball' and 'The Dark Knight Rises', says nothing, ABSOLUTELY nothing about how they rate other movies than 'Skyfall'.
I think the problem with popularity on the whole is the following: The amount of people that get irritated by this popularity grows as well. I really REALLY don't get this anger. It's anger that borders some kind of snobbery of which I don't like to be part of.
Let me be frank. This topic is about box office figures. Yes, BOX OFFICE FIGURES. If you don't like it? Go to another topic that is about reviews of 'Skyfall' or about the future of Bond for my part. I go to these topics too by the way, as I am a huge fan of ALL Bond films. No, even worse, I am a hugeeeee lover of all cinema!
And now......let's get really back on topic :-P.
Your working with one set of figures only, from several set of figures availalble, being selective in the list you pick because it suits your needs..........the truth hurts doesnt it.
Please stop this insanity........you know it makes sense
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If it can bring sunshine and happiness to your life, then be it, Skyfall doesn't beat Thunderball.