The 'Agent Under Fire' appreciation thread !!

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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Heck, I wouldn't mind a film adaptation myself! :D
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    AUF is the one with the clones, yes?
    No, thank you. Pass.

    Some thinfs just don't work in movies.
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    You should have stuck with Johnny English in AUF. ;)
  • MinionMinion Don't Hassle the Bond
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    What hurts the most about licensed games is the lack of posterity. Goldeneye 64, AUF, Nigthfire, EON... even the more recent iterations, like Blood Stone or 007 Legends (bad as it was), pretty much every Bond game has been lost with it's gaming generation. What I wouldn't give for a Steam re-release of all these classic titles!
  • SharkBait wrote: »
    AUF is the one with the clones, yes?
    No, thank you. Pass.

    Some thinfs just don't work in movies.

    Yeah. Same with EON. Great game but a direct sequel to A View To A Kill with multiple invisible cars, a base with a weird sci fi force field, the girl from American Pie, a villain who's plan is to literally take over the world, an invisibility suit, Bond in a porsche and all that other stuff as a film? It wouldn't have been the course correction after DAD that some seem to think, it would been panned and turned even more people against the Brosnan era.

    Nightfire though with just a couple of tweaks could have made a brilliant film.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Nightfire though with just a couple of tweaks could have made a brilliant film.
    Hear hear! Nightfire is a perfection!

    Well... a near perfection.

    However, the clone thing isn't far fetched as some think it is here. Raymond Benson's novel, DoubleShot even featured a clone of Bond with whom the real Bond clashed in the middle of a bull fighting ring. This sort of thing actually exists, it's not only a world of USB flash drives and hard drives that threaten global security, mind? There are a lot of other means what others don't believe and class as sci-fi.

    I agree about the invisible cars, however. While it very well exists (Top Gear even publicly showed it with a truck), I just don't see how it'd be useful and coherent with the plot.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited August 2017 Posts: 7,131
    The clone thing always reminded me of CR67.

    Though I agree with everything I've read, AUF and EON are great games but they wouldn't make such great films. NF however could work, still my favourite Bond game ever.

    The prelude in Paris, the Austrian castle, the Japanese villa, spying in Tokyo, my goodness that sounds great. Though I'd put in a casino and a hotel scene and some more less 'noisy' moments.

    Look at it like FRWL if you will, but the other way around. Great film but with the necessary adaptions for a great game.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited August 2017 Posts: 15,423
    Agent Under Fire was an experimental title for EA with an "original Bond experience" label. In my honest opinion, it worked beautifully and can easily be turned to film if the writers can present the "believable" balance perfectly. Heck, even Everything or Nothing can achieve that if they reduce some of the action and replace it with spy elements.

    Nightfire, however, was perfection in every way. Definitely the best James Bond video game ever.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    @ClarkDevlin Agreed 100%.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    edited January 2018 Posts: 3,000
    Has anyone ever had any luck getting the Xbox version of AUF to run on a 360? I found a copy today for $5 and I'd love to get it to work.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    I didn't think regular Xbox games are compatible with Xbox 360s.
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    I didn't think regular Xbox games are compatible with Xbox 360s.

    Depends on the game. Look here for the list of the game you want to play https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_games_compatible_with_Xbox_360.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    I didn't think regular Xbox games are compatible with Xbox 360s.

    Some are. 51% was the exact figure I'd heard, and I've played Halo 2 on it. Apparently if I download an emulator update it will run, but too fast to be playable, at least that's what I'm hearing (on my current software version it doesn't run at all). I wonder if there are any fixes.
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    I didn't think regular Xbox games are compatible with Xbox 360s.

    Some are. 51% was the exact figure I'd heard, and I've played Halo 2 on it. Apparently if I download an emulator update it will run, but too fast to be playable, at least that's what I'm hearing (on my current software version it doesn't run at all). I wonder if there are any fixes.

    I have the gamecube emulator version of Agent Under Fire works fine for me.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    Mazouni wrote: »
    I didn't think regular Xbox games are compatible with Xbox 360s.

    Depends on the game. Look here for the list of the game you want to play https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_games_compatible_with_Xbox_360.

    Yeah, I've seen that list, and it mentions the speed issue. That list isn't quite complete though, as I understand any non-driving levels in NF will run, and the list fails to mention that (I've also heard that EON will run).
  • edited January 2018 Posts: 235
    Mazouni wrote: »
    I didn't think regular Xbox games are compatible with Xbox 360s.

    Depends on the game. Look here for the list of the game you want to play https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_games_compatible_with_Xbox_360.

    Yeah, I've seen that list, and it mentions the speed issue. That list isn't quite complete though, as I understand any non-driving levels in NF will run, and the list fails to mention that (I've also heard that EON will run).

    Well I try Nightfire on the Xbox 360 and yes driving levels don't work have to use cheat codes get past them. EON never worked for me on my Xbox 360 sadly however, Goldeneye Rouge Agent did.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Interesting!

    I wonder how do they look graphics-wise? Are they enhanced?
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
    edited January 2018 Posts: 3,000
    Mazouni wrote: »
    I didn't think regular Xbox games are compatible with Xbox 360s.

    Some are. 51% was the exact figure I'd heard, and I've played Halo 2 on it. Apparently if I download an emulator update it will run, but too fast to be playable, at least that's what I'm hearing (on my current software version it doesn't run at all). I wonder if there are any fixes.

    I have the gamecube emulator version of Agent Under Fire works fine for me.

    Yeah, but I've just always avoided emulators due to the legal gray area they exist in (when I said emulator in my other post I was referring to the official original Xbox emulator in the 360.)
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    Mazouni wrote: »
    I didn't think regular Xbox games are compatible with Xbox 360s.

    Some are. 51% was the exact figure I'd heard, and I've played Halo 2 on it. Apparently if I download an emulator update it will run, but too fast to be playable, at least that's what I'm hearing (on my current software version it doesn't run at all). I wonder if there are any fixes.

    I have the gamecube emulator version of Agent Under Fire works fine for me.

    Yeah, but I've just always avoided emulators due to the legal gray area they exist in (when I said emulator in my other post I was referring to the official original Xbox emulator in the 360.)
    Or go to local game store and buy regular Xbox for $50 bucks.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    Mazouni wrote: »
    Mazouni wrote: »
    I didn't think regular Xbox games are compatible with Xbox 360s.

    Some are. 51% was the exact figure I'd heard, and I've played Halo 2 on it. Apparently if I download an emulator update it will run, but too fast to be playable, at least that's what I'm hearing (on my current software version it doesn't run at all). I wonder if there are any fixes.

    I have the gamecube emulator version of Agent Under Fire works fine for me.

    Yeah, but I've just always avoided emulators due to the legal gray area they exist in (when I said emulator in my other post I was referring to the official original Xbox emulator in the 360.)
    Or go to local game store and buy regular Xbox for $50 bucks.

    I already have the PS2 version actually. I was just hoping to get to play it upscaled to HD. I suppose I'll give the copy to a friend that has an old Xbox.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    @BMW_with_missiles why not buy a GameCube version of the game and play it on your computer? The Dolphin emulator is quite beneficiary in many ways.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    @BMW_with_missiles why not buy a GameCube version of the game and play it on your computer? The Dolphin emulator is quite beneficiary in many ways.

    I didn't know you could play directly from the disc on an emulator. My issue has always been obtaining legal roms, so I'd like that.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    @BMW_with_missiles why not buy a GameCube version of the game and play it on your computer? The Dolphin emulator is quite beneficiary in many ways.
    I didn't know you could play directly from the disc on an emulator. My issue has always been obtaining legal roms, so I'd like that.
    As long as you're not making money out of it, @BMW_with_missiles, there are no issues. Plus, I'd like to think those games are already considered Abandonware product, so you could obtain a ROM online legally without anyone issuing you with copyright infringement.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    @BMW_with_missiles why not buy a GameCube version of the game and play it on your computer? The Dolphin emulator is quite beneficiary in many ways.
    I didn't know you could play directly from the disc on an emulator. My issue has always been obtaining legal roms, so I'd like that.
    As long as you're not making money out of it, @BMW_with_missiles, there are no issues. Plus, I'd like to think those games are already considered Abandonware product, so you could obtain a ROM online legally without anyone issuing you with copyright infringement.

    Good point. I'll have to look into it and see if my weak old pc will cope.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited February 2018 Posts: 15,423
    Some newly recovered TWINE for PC and PS2 screenshots, provided with by a friend of mine.

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    @Murdock @BMW_with_missiles @mattjoes... in case you're interested. ;)
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
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    A few of those assets really do look like they were moved over to AUF.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited February 2018 Posts: 15,423
    Yep, especially the MP5 3D model.

    What I've always asked myself over the years was that... why did they feel the need to switch from Walther P99 to a Smith & Wesson SW99 for Bond's sidearm? AUF beta screenshots showed the 'Wolfram P2K' handgun being that of the P99 used in the TWINE PC version.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    Wow, just wow! That looks incredible! Especially this level;
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  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    It's a crime they cancelled this game out, as much as I loved AUF.
  • timdalton007timdalton007 North Alabama
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    Calvin Dyson recently did a lengthy in-depth retrospective of the game, including a couple of details that I'd not spotted on previous playthroughs.

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