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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    echo wrote: »
    Thunderfinger wrote: »
    Moonraker was acquired with the others. They considered filming it in 1969, that and TMWTGG, but OHMSS it was.

    From Wikipedia:

    "The actor John Payne attempted to take up the option on the film rights to the book in 1955, but nothing came of the attempt. The Rank Organisation also came to an agreement to make a film, but this likewise fell through.[81] The novel was not one of Fleming's stories acquired by Eon Productions in 1961; in 1969 the company acquired the rights and commissioned Gerry Anderson to produce and co-write a screenplay. Anderson and Tony Barwick prepared a 70-page treatment that was never filmed, but some elements were similar to the final screenplay of The Spy Who Loved Me."

    OHMSS: Why does M congratulate Draco on "November '64. The buillon job. You got away with quite a chunk of the haul." I get that it's a GF reference but no gold was ever removed in the film.

    And here is from imdb
    In 1955, John Payne negotiated and purchased the rights for an option to "Moonraker", paying a $1000 a month option for nine months. Payne was the first ever person in Hollywood interested in making the James Bond novels into a film series. Apparently, he eventually gave up the option when he learned he couldn't obtain the rights to the entire 007 series. Moreover, there were allegedly trans-Atlantic problems between the USA and English agents of James Bond creator Ian Fleming. In 1955-56, the Rank Organisation via Ian Hunter bought an advance option from Fleming to the novel "Moonraker". Fleming stipulated £1000 for an advance option and £10,000 for the film rights. Rank did not develop the material further. In Spring 1959, Rank sold them back to Fleming. Harry Saltzman obtained the rights to the James Bond novels in 1960-61 and "Moonraker" was included in the package. Saltzman later went into partnership with Albert R. Broccoli to produce the James Bond films.
  • bigladiesmanbigladiesman
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    There's a silly question that just jumped into my head... I read there's an itty-bitty deleted sequence on DAF where Zambora (or whoever it is underneath), in the gorilla suit, says something to the CIA agents trailing Tiffany. Something about the police, but I can't remember correctly.

    Anyone of you guys know what was Zambora supposed to say?
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    Who is at the bottom of the water in quantum in the scene on the docks where Greene is talking to Camille about geologists.
  • GettlerGettler USA
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    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    Who is at the bottom of the water in quantum in the scene on the docks where Greene is talking to Camille about geologists.

    The geologist.
  • JamesBondKenyaJamesBondKenya Danny Boyle laughs to himself
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    But wasn't that slate who was killed in the apartment?
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
    edited June 2017 Posts: 15,423
    JamesBondKenya wrote: »
    But wasn't that slate who was killed in the apartment?
    No, Slate was supposed to be impersonating the geologist who was discovered by Greene after making a contact with Camille. Bond takes Slate's place rather than the geologist's.
  • barryt007barryt007
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    bigladiesman wrote: »
    There's a silly question that just jumped into my head... I read there's an itty-bitty deleted sequence on DAF where Zambora (or whoever it is underneath), in the gorilla suit, says something to the CIA agents trailing Tiffany. Something about the police, but I can't remember correctly.

    Anyone of you guys know what was Zambora supposed to say?

    He does speak ,but you don't see him.
    I think he says something like "Hey lady you cant go through there"...

  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    edited June 2017 Posts: 7,584
    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Was there anyone considered for Bond after Connery in DAF?

    I read the producers only were considering Roger and saw/did not consider anyone else

    They considered several, including Timothy Dalton. Dalton himself has mentioned about being considered after Connery quit, and most people take that to mean after You Only Live Twice. However, Lazenby was cast as Bond before Dalton's first film appearance so Saltzman and Broccoli would not have been aware of Dalton at that stage.

    Therefore it means he must have been considered during the 1971/72 period after Connery quit for the second time. Dalton said he was too young at 24/25, suggesting also that his actual year of birth is 1946, and not the often rumoured 1944.

    echo wrote: »

    OHMSS: Why does M congratulate Draco on "November '64. The buillon job. You got away with quite a chunk of the haul." I get that it's a GF reference but no gold was ever removed in the film.

    It never occurred to me they were referencing Goldfinger, I was always thinking they were referring to the great British train robbery. But, on reflection, that was a year earlier, so maybe it was Goldfinger.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    On the subject of the bullion job I always assumed this was something else entirely that M was referring to.
  • bigladiesmanbigladiesman
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    barryt007 wrote: »
    bigladiesman wrote: »
    There's a silly question that just jumped into my head... I read there's an itty-bitty deleted sequence on DAF where Zambora (or whoever it is underneath), in the gorilla suit, says something to the CIA agents trailing Tiffany. Something about the police, but I can't remember correctly.

    Anyone of you guys know what was Zambora supposed to say?

    He does speak ,but you don't see him.
    I think he says something like "Hey lady you cant go through there"...

    I thought that was the "scientist". I guess this is because I've only watched DAF dubbed.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    On the subject of the bullion job I always assumed this was something else entirely that M was referring to.

    Same here. It just happens to be the same precious metal.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    On the subject of the bullion job I always assumed this was something else entirely that M was referring to.

    Same here. It just happens to be the same precious metal.

    And the same year - '64, though I very much doubt that Goldfinger took place in November 1964 considering it looked like the summer in the US scenes and the fact that the the film premiered on 17 September 1964 in the UK. That's that theory holed below the waterline I think!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    At the end of the QoS PTS Bond says " time to get out." And the camera freeze frames on Criag. I was wondering, do you think that was intended as a nod to the freeze frame that occurs at the end of the Octopussy PTS? Those are the only two I think that have it.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    Hardly, if you ask me.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    On the subject of the bullion job I always assumed this was something else entirely that M was referring to.

    Same here. It just happens to be the same precious metal.

    And the same year - '64, though I very much doubt that Goldfinger took place in November 1964 considering it looked like the summer in the US scenes and the fact that the the film premiered on 17 September 1964 in the UK. That's that theory holed below the waterline I think!

    I honestly never ever made any connection between the gold bullion in OHMSS and Goldfinger. For me it has always been a job totally unrelated to Bond.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    On the subject of the bullion job I always assumed this was something else entirely that M was referring to.

    November 1964!
  • fjdinardofjdinardo
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    You are directing a Bond movie.

    Would rather make a film like Casino Royale but it bombing at the box office or a movie like Die Another Day and it becomes the highest grossing Bond movie of all time?
  • GerardGerard
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    Casino Royale, all the way. I'd rather be known for a OHMSS than for a MR.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    You are directing a Bond movie.

    Would rather make a film like Casino Royale but it bombing at the box office or a movie like Die Another Day and it becomes the highest grossing Bond movie of all time?
    The former, without question.
  • BMW_with_missilesBMW_with_missiles All the usual refinements.
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    You are directing a Bond movie.

    Would rather make a film like Casino Royale but it bombing at the box office or a movie like Die Another Day and it becomes the highest grossing Bond movie of all time?

    Considering that I like DAD better than CR, I'll make another DAD.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Was there any explanation/word of God mention on why they radically changed Blofeld's appearance in DAF comparatively to his previous two incarnations?
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    God says it's because He's always rather liked the work of Charles Gray, and He just can't picture Charles Gray in a bald cap.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    There is the plastic surgery angle. Not just duplicates, but to change Blofeld's appearance because Bond saw him in the previous film.

    A concern that lasts several minutes of screen time.
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    The continuity is played so fast and loose throughout YOLT - OHMSS - DAF I've never stopped to question Blofeld's changing appearances. The plastic surgery / hiding from MI6 explanation is a good one for those looking for one.

    Personally, I would guess that the real world explanation is simply that Charles Gray didn't look good bald or didn't want to be bald, so they simply let his Blofeld have hair.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    I have my own theory on the matter. Blofeld in YOLT was a decoy and Blofeld in DAF is Henderson from YOLT posing as Blofeld because he was a Spectre agent the whole time. Blofeld as seen on FRWL, TB and OHMSS is the true Blofeld. It also helps to watch the films in order of YOLT - DAF - OHMSS. It's rather complicated but it makes YOLT and DAF better for me anyway.
  • ClarkDevlinClarkDevlin Martinis, Girls and Guns
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    That's an insult to Dikko Henderson, who was a honourable man in the book. And a true British patriot (even though he was an Aussie). ;)
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Murdock wrote: »
    I have my own theory on the matter. Blofeld in YOLT was a decoy and Blofeld in DAF is Henderson from YOLT posing as Blofeld because he was a Spectre agent the whole time. Blofeld as seen on FRWL, TB and OHMSS is the true Blofeld. It also helps to watch the films in order of YOLT - DAF - OHMSS. It's rather complicated but it makes YOLT and DAF better for me anyway.

    Question: are the decoy Blofelds also part of Bond's extended family?
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    ClarkDevlin wrote: »
    That's an insult to Dikko Henderson, who was a honourable man in the book. And a true British patriot (even though he was an Aussie). ;)

    Well the films never really delved into that. ;)

    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    Question: are the decoy Blofelds also part of Bond's extended family?
    No but Blofeld from YOLT might be related to Sandor. ;)
  • Some_Kind_Of_HeroSome_Kind_Of_Hero
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    Murdock wrote: »
    Some_Kind_Of_Hero wrote: »
    Question: are the decoy Blofelds also part of Bond's extended family?
    No but Blofeld from YOLT might be related to Sandor. ;)

    Male pattern baldness is hereditary...
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    There is the plastic surgery angle. Not just duplicates, but to change Blofeld's appearance because Bond saw him in the previous film.

    A concern that lasts several minutes of screen time.

    I know it can be rationalized easily in universe but was there any word later from the people regarding Blofeld's change of appearance?
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