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It would have fit much better. It made no sense doing an origin story over the span of CR and QOS only to have Craig-Bond struggling with his age in SF.
At the end of Casino Royale Bond apprehended Mr.White from Whites villa on the edge of Lake Como in Italy. In the next film Quantum Of Solace we pick up from the events of the previous film, with Bond in his Aston Martin evading pursuing cars, with Mr.White in the boot of his Aston. Concluding with Bond escaping and proceeding to an MI6 safe house in Siena, Italy.
Why has Bond traveled so far in order to do this? Why if Mr.White is in Lake Como, do MI6 set up a safe house, so far from that location?
Maybe there's a simple explanation.
Probably Budget cuts ;)
Can't have Safe houses everywhere.
It dawned on me as well when I traveled to the Villa Gaete, how far it is away from Sienna.
But i think it is never explicitly mentioned in the film that White lives at Lake Como so it coul be anywhere.
The film Safe House also circulates around that subject.
Apart from anything else why did Bond drive first from Lake Como to Lake Garda to go through the Malcesine tunnel if he is on his way to Siena?
But then we don't know what happened between the end of CR and QOS. Perhaps the goons in the Alfas somehow forced Bond up towards (you'll need Google map up for this) Sondrio before he was able head back down south at Dimaro along the shores of Garda? Then we pick things up as Bond drives south through the tunnel. After the tunnel we cut and the chase proceeds for another 300km or so past Verona and Parma before arriving at the quarries at Carrara where we get to see Bond despatch the villains and then we cut again as he covers the remaining 200km to Siena.
It's more credible than what causes the boat to flip later on.
Quantum of Solace flipping boat: it's shown to flip on screen. Is there an idea that without overwhelmingly convincing an audience member the cause, it actually doesn't flip? And yet, it does flip. It clearly flips spectacularly.
Quantum of Solace M appearing to be shot, mentioned elsewhere: it does first seem like M is shot, then a moment later shows her slipping away, maybe injured, impossible to tell. Later she's shown to be shook up but unharmed. Does the film need to further convince an a viewer she wasn't shot? It's already established.
That's interesting trivia for the geography. Did Bond drive from Lake Como to Lake Garda on instructions, then later get directed to Siena. Why not. (There's also the point made most of the locations mentioned here in discussion aren't identified, and so could represent closer locales story-wise.) Bottom line, he shows up in Siena.
Especially for Bond films, these things aren't that complicated. No more than a changing scuba mask color in the scheme of things.
Or Leiter s magic pants in TB. On that note, Bond s change of clothes at the start of QOS is more of a mystery.
Christ QOS's action sequences are horribly put together. And to think that before the Boyle announcement I saw people on here say they'd be happy to see Marc 'speeding bullet' Forster come back for B25.
It flipped. Clearly and undeniably. Indubitably, even.
It os Krav Maga or a romanticized version of it.
Boats don't ordinarily flip in the air like that do they? I agree that it happened but what was the reason for this?
Surely it should be something that Bond does rather than be attributable to an unseen Loch Ness monster type creature flicking its tail at it beneath the water?
Suffice it to say the cause remains unproven which is more than good enough for RichardTheBruce.
There is no issue with me that the boat flipped. @RichardTheBruce says it flipped. So I obviously don't need to be convinced why.
You won't get accused of derailing a thread if the subject being discussed is relevant too said thread @TheWizardOfIce old boy. Nothing like that going on here.
The flipping boat is a strange one. I watched QOS yesterday and can't see anything new.
Bond tosses the grappling hook into the boat. Inflatable with a rigid lower hull. For some reason the rope on the hook is pulled tight, despite not being attached to something causing the inflatable hull to rupture. We then see the boat nose dive heavily into the water and flip up into the air. Why?
I have no idea. It's right up there with the sweeping man in QOS, somethings I guess are just unknown.
'The key to a great story is not who...or what...or when...but why.'
Elliott Carver
Not telling the audience why things happen is just poor story telling.
The same could unfortunately be said of Octopussy's script at various points.
I also don't trust Elliott Carver's judgment on this point.
Well yes I should have said: "to be precised it is a romanticised version of Krav Maga". I did Krav Maga (need to get back to it really) and you can recognise it, albeit modified to look more spectacular.
In that case, did Moneypenny was a 00 agent too in Skyfall (she wore a gun, use it against Patrice, and only 00 have a licence to kill) ?
I don't know what Carter is.
I think Carter was a station agent. They can be armed sometimes. Obviously field work was not his forte.
Just a random intelligence operative, with no chance of becoming 00 (heck, Strawberry was more effective in the field, and she was merely an office worker).
I bet when he fell into the pit the cobra and mongoose teamed up to whip his dumb ass.
He's the kind of guy who'd sign up to MI6Community looking for a career in espionage.
Ironic how the actor's name is Joseph. As Doctor No would say, "clumsy effort".