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I'm also puzzling over this one now.
Bond is back on side when he gets the nipple though: he's met M on the QE1 and everything by then. Was the boat a Q thing? He just stole it, didn't he?
Campbell is MI6 in the book I believe, but I think the additions in the film actually make it more likely he works for Draco, even though we never see him with the rest of Draco's guys and he is English, unlike them.
Damned good point: the macguffin is all about tracking them, but I don't remember any mention of the disabling method. Seems to be some sort of sonic thing..?
"S-ray programme completed. Magnetic field shut down. All systems normal."
Of course, I'm getting my scenes in the wrong order with MWTGG. I was thinking of the Rio boat in MR which I guess Q supplied, but whereas I think it's pretty clear M is 'unofficially sanctioning' Bond in GG and MR, I agree there's little to go on in OHMSS. I guess it's a case of go with which option fits each of us best?
Oh interesting!! I shall listen out for that on my next watch. S-ray probably some sonic weapon, with a dose of magnetism thrown in for good 'spy-fi' luck??
After smashing through the chain, the security officer gets on the radio.
"Captain, some nut went through here in a stolen car. Wants the base commander. And he's wearing a red shirt!"
The inclusion of the 'and he's wearing a red shirt' seems a little odd. And maybe it is. Though considering OP takes place during the Cold War, is it possible the guard is referring to the Red Communist flag, thinking Bond could be a nut from behind the Iron curtain?
Though it could just be a way for the guys chasing Bond to know who they're looking for.
Is it not simply just so they can identify him more easily?
But one thing struck me I hadn't considered before, regarding the US/USSR astronauts at the end. Do one or two of them die when Bond triggers the final explosion in space?
As I see it, they were captured but kept alive for some unknown reason. Bond infiltrates the lair and frees them. They knock out the intended astronauts, take their space suits and then go to launch. Bond messes up by taking his aircon on board, but the rocket then takes off. Who is flying it?
If it's good guys then their sacrifice appears to go unnoticed, and they could simply not have gone ahead with the whole mission anyway. If it's bad guys then I don't see how that's possible...
I've always thought the same myself. There were so many costumes and uniforms at the base so it was just police/security guard standard procedure I'd say. A "Last seen wearing..." sort of thing. It'd come from their training to describe the car, what the driver was wearing, the direction he drove in and what he stated was his business. I don't think it has anything to do with red being the colour of the Communists.
Any thought on this, anyone?
Bond releases 3 good guy astronauts.
2 good guy astronauts, along with Bond, dress as guards.
The 3rd good guy astronaut disappears.
The 3 'guards' enter change room A and knock out bad guy astronaut A.
Bond exits change room A and boards the monorail.
Bad guy astronaut B exits change room B and boards the monorail.
Bond and bad guy astronaut B take the elevator up to the Bird1 cockpit.
Bond is caught with his air con, and bad guy astronaut B boards Bird1.
Reserve bad guy astronaut takes Bond's place.
Why is Hinx after Madeleine? Blofeld orders White to be killed. By the time Hinx arrives at White's place, he had already taken his own life and told Bond - who was only there because he overheard the SPECTRE meeting, which Blofeld seemingly wanted him to do - to keep his daughter Madeleine safe, if I recall correctly. Why is she in danger in the first place? As a bait for Bond? Because she might be able to find Blofeld through a massively convoluted scavenger hunt, which still only lead them to a train station in the middle of nowhere, where Blofeld's chauffeur has to pick them up? Had Hinx not kidnapped her, Bond would have stayed longer at the clinic, trying to convince the good Doctor that she has to change her cover and would have either succeeded or not and she would have told him that L'Americain is a hotel or not. And the whole thing basically stops dead in it's tracks.
How is UK national security policy apparently just completely turned on it's head in mere minutes mainly because the lead proponent of the changes dies in an accident/a fight with a political rival? There would be treaties with the other Nine Eyes countries, parliament has agreed to this (or at least the ISC, which Mallory used to chair), the Privy Council, the Queen! The built a whole new building in the middle of London for it!
1) I agree it doesnt make a whole lot of sense, but if youre after an “in movie” reason, then Hinx will have watched the Bond/White conversation, and known Bond was meeting Swann. Presumably he wants to take out Swann because she has an awareness of the organisation and is the last link in the ‘Pale King’ saga, and also she can spill the beans to Bond, which they dont want.
2) My understanding it that the whole Nine Eyes thing is already in place and at least partially operational, the Tokyo meeting was like a final sign off. Once South Africa (I think) agreed it was already good to go.
We as fans give these things more attention than the writers did, at least.
To 1) I guess the explanation (apart from: it is how Madeleine is introduced) is indeed that they want to snuff out everything concerning the pale king. Which leads back to the question: Would Hinx have found her/been aware of her had Bond not gone to White's place? I guess he would have, as he finds White independent of Bond, so he would have possibly pressed her whereabouts out if him.
To 2) I was being slightly facetious. I know that these kinds of things are just movie logic.. I still find it kind of funny that apparently the entire national security apparatus of a nuclear power is run on the whims of like three men (which is arguably quite Flemingesque, as I believe he has some description of M where he basically calls him the embodiment of the British intelligence apparatus or something like it).
"I hear the life expectancy of some widows can be very short".
In the same way, Mr White attempts to hide Madeleine's existence because he knows that when he dies they will go after her.
When Lea and the others auditioned for the role, Mendes used a scene from SF. Does anyone know which scene that would be?
Good point. Never put two and two together there. Thank you.
You've obviously never heard of Australia's Black Swans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan
I would guess, to test their chemistry, the shaving scene.
Good point, and one I have pondered at times. Also, how did they not get ripped from his hands during his initial freefall, before somehow opening his chute.