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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    Thunderpussy wrote: »
    I've always thought Herr Stamper, was the only one who took his " Bodyguard" duties
    Seriously. In TND, in Carvers office when the fighting starts. He grabs Carver and covers
    Him with his own body to protect him. :)

    Stamper is a favourite of mine. So effective, so funny and such a beautiful death scene, his facial expression there is priceless!

    That massive, painful-and-pissed-off grin he throws Bond's way as soon as he stabs him is so good.
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
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    Gabor I'd say is nearly as useless as Elvis. What did he even do? He isn't even the one who captured Bond and Christmas at Istanbul, that was the only-slightly-more-useful Mr. Bullion.

    Well, I would start a thread about incompetent henchmen since it is my username but apparently we DO already have one.
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
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    And now given that this thread can be used for questions again.

    What was Marc Forster's exact reasoning for positioning the gunbarrel at the end. Like, why? Mendes thought that the gunbarrel didn't fit with his opening shot and I don't agree with his decision but I at least understand why he did it.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    I think Forster wanted to be different and original, well, big fail.
    As for the GB, after CR, very sadly, all was fair game.
    Cubby for sure turned in his grave concerning the GB.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    BondJasonBond006 wrote: »
    I think Forster wanted to be different and original, well, big fail.
    As for the GB, after CR, very sadly, all was fair game.
    Cubby for sure turned in his grave concerning the GB.

    I'm sure Cubby, nor his spirit, cared that much about where the gunbarrel was. Having said that, it didn't make that much sense for it to be at the end of Quantum or Skyfall. It was in the perfect spot in Spectre, and it was unbelievable in Casino.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    @IncompetentHenchman - It's kind of already been answered but one of Locque's men came in to rough up Bond, while Kriegler was at the bottom with his rifle trying to shoot Bond when he made the jump. The thing is, Bond (being protected by the most amazing stunt/plot-armour) timed his leap to coincide exactly at the same time as that thug's, so that Kriegler couldn't get him (if he fired, he'd get the thug). Then when they reach the bottom, Bond pummels the thug with his shattered ski pole (broken earlier by Kriegler's shot), which would've damn hurt.

    Then he does another jump just as Kriegler gets out of the car for another shot, and his skis hit Kriegler's crossbow which disarms him (Kriegler also has to duck to avoid being hit by the skis). Typical Roger Moore moment where he gets himself out of trouble with obscene stunts/gadgets, but I love it all the same. The stuntwork in the ski chase is brilliant.
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
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    ForYourEyesOnly wrote: »
    @IncompetentHenchman - It's kind of already been answered but one of Locque's men came in to rough up Bond, while Kriegler was at the bottom with his rifle trying to shoot Bond when he made the jump. The thing is, Bond (being protected by the most amazing stunt/plot-armour) timed his leap to coincide exactly at the same time as that thug's, so that Kriegler couldn't get him (if he fired, he'd get the thug). Then when they reach the bottom, Bond pummels the thug with his shattered ski pole (broken earlier by Kriegler's shot), which would've damn hurt.

    Then he does another jump just as Kriegler gets out of the car for another shot, and his skis hit Kriegler's crossbow which disarms him (Kriegler also has to duck to avoid being hit by the skis). Typical Roger Moore moment where he gets himself out of trouble with obscene stunts/gadgets, but I love it all the same. The stuntwork in the ski chase is brilliant.

    Yes the ski chase is brilliant, but I still don't like to think that the whole reason Bond survives is more or less a dumb miscommunication between the villains. If Kriegler or Locque just told the goon not to do anything, Kriegler would have had the perfect shot at Bond.
  • Scaramanga12Scaramanga12
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    NSNA question: In the opening sequence, the bit where Connery throws a grenade just doesn't make sense to me.

    Firstly, the room is directly below where he is standing, so how can he see inside the room and how can he throw a grenade so that it lands in the middle of the room?

    Next, he then smashes through the window, so how did the grenade even get in the room?
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Something that I don't understand about that scene is how Bond kills agents when it is just an exercise at the start of NSNA. He clearly kills them, even though it is just a Secret Service practice exercise.

    Or have I misunderstood something about this scene?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Shouldn't the whole Craig era's handling of the GB be seen as a failure, then, and not just QoS? Four movies in and we've yet to have the standard GB entrance.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Something that I don't understand about that scene is how Bond kills agents when it is just an exercise at the start of NSNA. He clearly kills them, even though it is just a Secret Service practice exercise.

    Or have I misunderstood something about this scene?

    MI6 are just as evil as SPECTRE.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Some of their less useful people. ;)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    They asked for a raise.
  • GerardGerard
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Something that I don't understand about that scene is how Bond kills agents when it is just an exercise at the start of NSNA. He clearly kills them, even though it is just a Secret Service practice exercise.

    Or have I misunderstood something about this scene?

    You did misunderstand the scene. It was an exercise, and the agents Bond dispatches were supposed to play dead until the show was over.

  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Gerard wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Something that I don't understand about that scene is how Bond kills agents when it is just an exercise at the start of NSNA. He clearly kills them, even though it is just a Secret Service practice exercise.

    Or have I misunderstood something about this scene?

    You did misunderstand the scene. It was an exercise, and the agents Bond dispatches were supposed to play dead until the show was over.

    That's how I've always read it. Otherwise wouldn't Bond be dead Draggers?


  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    Gerard wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Something that I don't understand about that scene is how Bond kills agents when it is just an exercise at the start of NSNA. He clearly kills them, even though it is just a Secret Service practice exercise.

    Or have I misunderstood something about this scene?

    You did misunderstand the scene. It was an exercise, and the agents Bond dispatches were supposed to play dead until the show was over.

    That's how I've always read it. Otherwise wouldn't Bond be dead Draggers?


    I guess so; it just looked so realistic I guess.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    Gerard wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Something that I don't understand about that scene is how Bond kills agents when it is just an exercise at the start of NSNA. He clearly kills them, even though it is just a Secret Service practice exercise.

    Or have I misunderstood something about this scene?

    You did misunderstand the scene. It was an exercise, and the agents Bond dispatches were supposed to play dead until the show was over.

    That's how I've always read it. Otherwise wouldn't Bond be dead Draggers?


    I guess so; it just looked so realistic I guess.

    Well the whole point is that you think 'Oh no Bond's dead' at the end. If they'd had the red paint as in TLD any tension in the sequence (and there's not much - cheers Lani Hall) would have been gone immediately.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    Gerard wrote: »
    Dragonpol wrote: »
    Something that I don't understand about that scene is how Bond kills agents when it is just an exercise at the start of NSNA. He clearly kills them, even though it is just a Secret Service practice exercise.

    Or have I misunderstood something about this scene?

    You did misunderstand the scene. It was an exercise, and the agents Bond dispatches were supposed to play dead until the show was over.

    That's how I've always read it. Otherwise wouldn't Bond be dead Draggers?


    I guess so; it just looked so realistic I guess.

    Well the whole point is that you think 'Oh no Bond's dead' at the end. If they'd had the red paint as in TLD any tension in the sequence (and there's not much - cheers Lani Hall) would have been gone immediately.

    Well that's true of course; it needed to look as realistic as possible to convince the viewer.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I'm not sure how from his position on the roof how Bond managed to get his grenade onto the table in the middle of the room though. Must of used some help from Barnes Wallis methinks.
    Watching said PTS for NSNA today it's not very good. I've always enjoyed the film, but as far as PTS go, this one isn't really on the list.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Actually it isnt a pre title sequence. It is the main title sequence.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Agree to both.
  • ForYourEyesOnlyForYourEyesOnly In the untained cradle of the heavens
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    "IncompetentHenchman wrote: »

    Yes the ski chase is brilliant, but I still don't like to think that the whole reason Bond survives is more or less a dumb miscommunication between the villains. If Kriegler or Locque just told the goon not to do anything, Kriegler would have had the perfect shot at Bond.

    That happens all the time in movies, though. The intention was to get a thug to rough Bond up, that's it. It's a credit to Bond's skill (or his plot armour) that he times his leap at the same time as the thug's.
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
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    ForYourEyesOnly wrote: »
    "IncompetentHenchman wrote: »

    Yes the ski chase is brilliant, but I still don't like to think that the whole reason Bond survives is more or less a dumb miscommunication between the villains. If Kriegler or Locque just told the goon not to do anything, Kriegler would have had the perfect shot at Bond.

    That happens all the time in movies, though. The intention was to get a thug to rough Bond up, that's it. It's a credit to Bond's skill (or his plot armour) that he times his leap at the same time as the thug's.

    You are right that it does indeed happen all the time, another example I can think of is in LALD when Whisper singlehandedly bungles the attempt of killing Bond by snake by interrupting him whilst he is shaving. Bond had no idea of the snake.
  • Scaramanga12Scaramanga12
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    Staying with FYEO, why isn't Bond sent straightaway to the last know location of the wreck? Their priority is recovering the ATAC, not finding out who killed Havelock.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Scaramanga12 wrote: »
    Staying with FYEO, why isn't Bond sent straightaway to the last know location of the wreck? Their priority is recovering the ATAC, not finding out who killed Havelock.

    I think Havelock didn't report back that he had seen wreckage before he was killed. Although not sure how finding Havelock's killer (which is what Bond is sent to do) gets them anywhere. Ok you arrest Gonzalez and he squeals and says 'Kristatos hired me' so you nick Kristatos who, after being water boarded, finally coughs the valuable information 'I was hoping to find the ATAC and flog it to the Russians.'

    You're still no better off, with the ATAC at the bottom of the sea somewhere.

    In addition the quality of the MI6 cryptographers is disturbing given they can't even crack Havelock's code in his notebook.

    And there was I thinking FYEO was a reasonably solid story but youve exposed it as having as much coherence as SP which gets slated for it so thanks for that @Scaramanga12!

    Is there any Bond film where the plot holds together all the way through?
  • IncompetentHenchmanIncompetentHenchman
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    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    Scaramanga12 wrote: »
    Staying with FYEO, why isn't Bond sent straightaway to the last know location of the wreck? Their priority is recovering the ATAC, not finding out who killed Havelock.

    I think Havelock didn't report back that he had seen wreckage before he was killed. Although not sure how finding Havelock's killer (which is what Bond is sent to do) gets them anywhere. Ok you arrest Gonzalez and he squeals and says 'Kristatos hired me' so you nick Kristatos who, after being water boarded, finally coughs the valuable information 'I was hoping to find the ATAC and flog it to the Russians.'

    You're still no better off, with the ATAC at the bottom of the sea somewhere.

    In addition the quality of the MI6 cryptographers is disturbing given they can't even crack Havelock's code in his notebook.

    And there was I thinking FYEO was a reasonably solid story but youve exposed it as having as much coherence as SP which gets slated for it so thanks for that @Scaramanga12!

    Is there any Bond film where the plot holds together all the way through?

    I suppose DN and FRWL hold up well enough. And I think the main plotline of LALD, TMWTGG and TSWLM are relatively coherent at least to the rest of Moore.
  • Scaramanga12Scaramanga12
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    @TheWizardOfIce
    Is there even any indication that MI6 have searched Havelock's boat?

  • Scaramanga12Scaramanga12
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    In DAD, how does Bond know Frost is MI6? I watched it on TV last night so it may have been edited out but I don't recall M telling Bond about it. Another thing I remember is Bond and M discussing Frost at the end, explaining her and Moon were at Havard together.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Scaramanga12 wrote: »
    In DAD, how does Bond know Frost is MI6? I watched it on TV last night so it may have been edited out but I don't recall M telling Bond about it. Another thing I remember is Bond and M discussing Frost at the end, explaining her and Moon were at Havard together.

    IIRC M briefs Frost that Bond will be send to Iceland as well. We're meant to understand Bond has had a similar briefing before. It isn't shown, but the whole point of that scene is to 'mislead'the public at first that she's talking to Bond, before showing she talks to Frost.
  • Scaramanga12Scaramanga12
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    @CommanderRoss thanks
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