Quantum of Solace Ultimate/Extended Edition - Where is it?

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  • edited April 2012 Posts: 3,494
    I'm been waiting on this release too, it seems they always contain much more than the original release and I'm sure that is the selling point. I'm a sucker for them and admit it. Gives me an excuse to give my QOS to my brother so he has everything I have.

    I'm glad they had the ending they did without White and Haines. Definitely would have forced a trilogy and Craig would have had to continue playing rookie Bond. Now we can look forward to the next installment of MI6/CIA versus Quantum and maybe we'll see White and Haines return then.
  • edited April 2012 Posts: 5,767
    RogueAgent wrote:
    boldfinger wrote:
    I´m glad that wasn´t in the film. It would have been an absolute clicheed soap opera ending.

    That would not have to have been the final scene though? But doesn't it make you wonder what other footage they have?
    Actually, no. I´m absolutely happy with the ending as it is. I think Forster said they shot two alternative endings, but I don´t find it really necessary for myself to see "how it could have been".

    darrenr wrote:
    No shaky cam???? Maybe my phrase isn't technically correct but shaky cam or "lightspeed cutting" its all the same to me... you only have to read the many other forums besides this one to see that most would agree with what i said..people leaving the cinema with headaches...youre entitled to your belief though.....and the QoS/bourne comparisons in the media will never stop, and that comparison is in the way it was made. So okay then, i hated the lightspeed editing to use your phrase. However i would remind you that one of Bourne's editors once said that they shot the movie then "aimed to put only 40% of a given shot on the screen"......if thats how you want your movies .............and of course longer editing would change the rhythm of the film, thats what disappointed most people with it!
    QoS was a movie seemingly done to satisfy the american cop drama viewer.

    Personally I prefer grand, sweeping panoramic views, time taken to tell a story,with vibrant colour and patient, intelligent dialogue and action scenes where we can see and enjoy all the skill used to have made it happen, which I trust Mendes will deliver in SF.
    Well, what can I say? How was I supposed to know that quick cuts and shaky camera are all the same to you? For me they make a difference as night and day. In Bourne 2 the action is really edited in a way that it is not in the frame most of the time. It really is cut out of the movie, so to speak. This is not at all the case in QOS. This doesn´t change the fact that even I feel reminded of Bourne when I watch QOS, for example because of the quick cutting. But I do have the gripe that in Bourne 2 most of the action is not there. Whereas in QOS it is there. If you can´t enjoy it that´s fair enough, or rather un-fair enough.
    By the way, I have no love for american cop drama ;-) .

  • edited April 2012 Posts: 5,767
    Sorry, double post.


  • edited April 2012 Posts: 5,767
    Sorry, being a bit posty.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited April 2012 Posts: 13,356
    Definitely would have forced a trilogy and Craig would have had to continue playing rookie Bond.

    Not really. He'd gotten past Vesper by that point so maybe just a 'Bond takes on Quantum' film.
    Now we can look forward to the next installment of MI6/CIA versus Quantum and maybe we'll see White and Haines return then.

    I think so but wonder if Skyfall is a big success, if EON may held off on Quantum for another film before bringing them back.
  • edited April 2012 Posts: 3,494
    @ Sam- maybe they would have advanced in time after QOS, it can't be ruled out. From the comments I've read previously, Craig, Forster, and MGW were talking like that if they had used the White/Haines death scene that they would have felt compelled to continue with Quantum in the next adventure.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
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  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    One question about the ending of QoS. What did Bond mean when he said that M was right about Vesper? I have never got that line..
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    MrBond wrote:
    One question about the ending of QoS. What did Bond mean when he said that M was right about Vesper? I have never got that line..

    From the end of Casino Royale most likely. "She gave the money in exchange for your life" or something like that.
  • MrBond wrote:
    One question about the ending of QoS. What did Bond mean when he said that M was right about Vesper? I have never got that line..

    My take on that was that he said M was right about him wanting revenge and being blinded by "inconsolable rage" during the early scene before they started to interrogate Mr. White. Good question, not sure who knows the correct answer.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    Yeah, it has to do with someting about the ending in CR. But unfortuanly it was never explained enough good.
  • Posts: 5,767
    MrBond wrote:
    One question about the ending of QoS. What did Bond mean when he said that M was right about Vesper? I have never got that line..

    My take on that was that he said M was right about him wanting revenge and being blinded by "inconsolable rage" during the early scene before they started to interrogate Mr. White. Good question, not sure who knows the correct answer.
    Maybe the correct answer is that it is only hinted at and deliberately not pinned to one spot.
    That reminds me of Christopher Nolan, who recently said that he prefers to have the audience think and combine for themselves, rather than spoon-feeding them obvious things.
    MrBond wrote:
    Yeah, it has to do with someting about the ending in CR. But unfortuanly it was never explained enough good.
    See previous comment. M said about Vesper that she had an Algerian boyfriend and that she sacrificed her life for Bond´s because she loved him. And M said about Bond that he is blinded by inconsolable rage. Well, Bond found out about Vesper´s secrets from Greene and from Yussef, so he learned that Vesper did in fact sacrifice herself for Bond, and he quelled his need for answers surrounding Vespers demise.
    So there´s nothing unclear.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    boldfinger wrote:
    MrBond wrote:
    One question about the ending of QoS. What did Bond mean when he said that M was right about Vesper? I have never got that line..

    My take on that was that he said M was right about him wanting revenge and being blinded by "inconsolable rage" during the early scene before they started to interrogate Mr. White. Good question, not sure who knows the correct answer.
    Maybe the correct answer is that it is only hinted at and deliberately not pinned to one spot.
    That reminds me of Christopher Nolan, who recently said that he prefers to have the audience think and combine for themselves, rather than spoon-feeding them obvious things.
    MrBond wrote:
    Yeah, it has to do with someting about the ending in CR. But unfortuanly it was never explained enough good.
    See previous comment. M said about Vesper that she had an Algerian boyfriend and that she sacrificed her life for Bond´s because she loved him. And M said about Bond that he is blinded by inconsolable rage. Well, Bond found out about Vesper´s secrets from Greene and from Yussef, so he learned that Vesper did in fact sacrifice herself for Bond, and he quelled his need for answers surrounding Vespers demise.
    So there´s nothing unclear.

    I think this is right. Bond finally gets his answer about whether Vesper betrayed him or not. That answer is more important to him than revenge (otherwise, he would have killed Yusef).

    From M's perspective, Bond is blinded by "inconsolable rage." But throughout the film, Bond wants not revenge, but his answer. That's why he says, "I never left."

  • Posts: 1,310
    Though the thought of an 'extended cut' of Quantum of Solace sounds enticing, I have extremely high doubts EON is going to commit to it. When the Collectors Edition of CR came out I bought it instantly, but when this QOS double dip comes out...I think I'll pass....

    Unless it is in fact an extended edition.....
  • ShardlakeShardlake Leeds, West Yorkshire, England
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    I always thought it was pretty obvious what Bond meant, Bond felt betrayed by Vesper although he loved her and seemed convinced she used him but in fact she saved him.

    M realised this but Bond at the end of CR couldn't it was only when Greene provided Bond with the info to track down Vesper's boyfriend and all the evidence was discovered that Bond realised this, he also realised that he was unlikely to trust in the same way again, a lesson learned, his guard being up from now on, the arc completed that creates James Bond.

    Hence while all the Bond begins element should be done with and fully formed 007 should be the one presented in Skyfall.

    It's not rocket science.
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    Im sure we'll see it after the Quantum story is finished with
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Alan007 wrote:
    Im sure we'll see it after the Quantum story is finished with

    Bingo. I'm glad that the scene was deleted. White is still out there and a threat. He's kind of like Blofeld but on the henchman level.
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    Alan007 wrote:
    Im sure we'll see it after the Quantum story is finished with

    If quantum is supposed to be the new SPECTER, after Bond #7 leaves then?
  • edited May 2012 Posts: 5,767
    MI6 HQ wrote:
    Michael G. Wilson talked Bond with BBC Breakfast yesterday
    Skyfall (Bond 23) - 22-05-12

    To tie in with the BBC Breakfast's exclusive first look at the new "Skyfall" trailer, producer Michael G. Wilson was on the programme showing its presenters gadgets from the Bond films and speaking a little about the forthcoming James Bond 23.

    One of the props Wilson shared was a genuine passport for James Bond. He explained: "Props wanted to get a decent prop passport for James Bond and so they made us one - it's actually made by the government."

    "He's fantastic," says Wilson of Daniel Craig. "For this time and place he's the most magnificent. Each one of the actors are of their moment and live in their own time."

    When the presenter quizzed Wilson about the short running time and rough cutting of "Quantum of Solace", the producer responded with news most fans will be relieved to hear: "It'll probably be longer, although we really don't know until we edit it and put it together. I think it'll be a two hour plus film."

    Eyes are already on Bond 24 but Wilson advises the public that they like to take it easy, gauge the reaction to the prior film before setting anything in stone for the next adventure: "Hopefully we'll make the next film but we always wait and see how the current one goes down with the public."
    Ain´t that interesting news?
    I wonder who is going to make that edit.
    And how are they going to fit the music score if they cut the action scenes to double length?

  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    boldfinger wrote:
    MI6 HQ wrote:
    Michael G. Wilson talked Bond with BBC Breakfast yesterday
    Skyfall (Bond 23) - 22-05-12

    To tie in with the BBC Breakfast's exclusive first look at the new "Skyfall" trailer, producer Michael G. Wilson was on the programme showing its presenters gadgets from the Bond films and speaking a little about the forthcoming James Bond 23.

    One of the props Wilson shared was a genuine passport for James Bond. He explained: "Props wanted to get a decent prop passport for James Bond and so they made us one - it's actually made by the government."

    "He's fantastic," says Wilson of Daniel Craig. "For this time and place he's the most magnificent. Each one of the actors are of their moment and live in their own time."

    When the presenter quizzed Wilson about the short running time and rough cutting of "Quantum of Solace", the producer responded with news most fans will be relieved to hear: "It'll probably be longer, although we really don't know until we edit it and put it together. I think it'll be a two hour plus film."

    Eyes are already on Bond 24 but Wilson advises the public that they like to take it easy, gauge the reaction to the prior film before setting anything in stone for the next adventure: "Hopefully we'll make the next film but we always wait and see how the current one goes down with the public."
    Ain´t that interesting news?
    I wonder who is going to make that edit.
    And how are they going to fit the music score if they cut the action scenes to double length?

    I'm sure Wilson talked about Skyfall and the reporter made a reference to QoS which had a short running time.
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    SF needs to be at least 2 hours and MGW seemed to confirmed this was going to happen.
  • Posts: 5,767
    Oh. Now that you mention it, that could be the case :-? .

    I don´t see though why any Bond film should have to run for a certain time. If it closes its arc properly, then it shouldn´t matter how long it is.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @boldfinger, I agree, but I would always prefer a two to two-and-a-half hour Bond film, if they can handle it properly, and not stretch it out and bore the audience.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Quantum-of-Solace-Blu-ray/11394/#Review

    I know that this edition is described as " not avaiable ". But can/could this have been the definitive edition of QoS or is it just fake?
  • Posts: 1,856
    MrBond wrote:
    http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Quantum-of-Solace-Blu-ray/11394/#Review

    I know that this edition is described as " not avaiable ". But can/could this have been the definitive edition of QoS or is it just fake?

    No, Same run time as the normal film.
  • edited January 2013 Posts: 392
    I think Bond was probably "killed" in the ending, FRWL novel style. Why I am certain? Well, first, that rumor started back before the movie came out in 2008. And then, how does the next movie Skyfall starts? Guess what, Bond gets "killed" in beginning...
    It's probably wiser they didn't use it, as there was a 4 years gap between both films.
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    Stamper wrote:
    I think Bond was probably "killed" in the ending, FRWL novel style. Why I am certain? Well, first, that rumor started back before the movie came out in 2008. And then, how does the next movie Skyfall starts? Guess what, Bond gets "killed" in beginning...
    It's probably wiser they didn't use it, as there was a 4 years gap between both films.

    We KNOW what the original ending was. It was Bond killing Mr White and introducing himself to Haines. So I see your point but I'm afraid you're looking too much into it
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
    edited September 2021 Posts: 1,036
    Bringing this to the front…

    How about for the Bond 60th Anniversary we get a “Daniel Craig Collection” box set in 4K/UHD that contains his 5 films including an extended director’s cut of Quantum of Solace?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Bringing this to the front…

    How about for the Bond 60th Anniversary we get a “Daniel Craig Collection” box set in 4K/UHD that contains his 5 films including an extended director’s cut of Quantum of Solace?

    I wish. I wouldn’t want Marc Forster near James Bond ever again though.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited February 2022 Posts: 3,158
    Bet you're glad that Forster turned down EON's offer to direct Craig's third film, then, Max? ;)
    Would EON be able to create a QOS Redux without Forster's input or would the Directors' Guild of America step in on his behalf? Jimmy Page wanted to do a whole recut of Led Zeppelin's film for a reissue, but he said that the DGA warned him off in no uncertain terms - something about protecting the creative content of their members' work. Anyone know for sure how this works?
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