Are you happy to see the DB5 return in B25?

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  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    Getafix wrote:
    Bring back Dalton's Aston!

    Oh how I wish they would.
  • edited May 2014 Posts: 11,425
    Perfectly suited the Dalton era. Great car.

    Laz's was pretty cool as well. Both beefy, tough looking cars.

    The DB5 is of course a stunner, but a bit feminine by comparison.
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    expect a hybrid car - no doubt a deal has been done.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    Getafix wrote:
    Bring back Dalton's Aston!

    Oooh... the '76 V8Vantage. Whoever pitched that idea to Eon back in the 80's deserves a medal :D
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    Perfect.
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    This came up in the Bond 24 Production thread, so I thought I'd help out.

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I loved the DB5 in SF. I found it a lot classier than sniffing the shoes of Rosa Klebb.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    edited June 2014 Posts: 14,680
    I loved the DB5 in SF. I found it a lot classier than sniffing the shoes of Rosa Klebb.
    I agree. Sniffing shoes is not very classy- unless they smell like Rosa's. @};-
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    edited June 2014 Posts: 45,489
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  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Loved the DB5, as others have pointed out it's an icon, but I hope it's done now
    time for Bond to get a new Icon for this century.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    timmer wrote: »
    RC7 wrote:
    timmer wrote:
    I would have been happier to see the DB return in SF, if they had managed to put the steering wheel on the correct side of the car, ie where it was in CR. We have to assume that's the same car. Terrible lack of attention to simple detail.

    This has been discussed previously. It was supposed to be the CR DB5, P&W mentioned this. It was Mendes being a smart-arse who changed it to the Connery version. Silly idea after the simple but effective set up in CR.

    This is why I don't trust Mendes with Bond films. He revels in doing things differently, yet in the most hamfisted way. Yawn. In his latest round of interviews he's all proud of the fact that he allowed characters to age in his Bond film. Hadn't been done before he says. Again. Yawn. And also wrong (see below), but who friggin cares. This development doesn't titillate me in the slightest.
    What has worked quite well for Bond is being of permanent double-0 age. ie roughly 30-45. M is M, the older boss. Q is Q etc etc. Their ages aren't that interesting. M has always been an older character. Dench was nothing new in that regard. OK fine, she was 7 films deep by this point, so I guess maybe Mendes did play with her character coming of age, even though her character was also rebooted in CR. But again, I didn't find this remotely interesting. ie the aging of M and coming to the end of the road. Or at least not half as interesting as Mendes did, to the point where he basically makes her the lead Bond-girl and number 2 character in the film. I'm a Connery purist but the SF, M saga, even made me pine for the Broz era and DAD, when M was just her usual crabby self.
    Mendes allowed Bond to reflect on his age - old dog etc. But what galls is that Mendes conveniently seems to forget, or probably didn't even know, was that this was all done before in NSNA, a film which explored the concept much more convincingly, in that filmgoers all easily remembered the young Connery-Bond quite well from two decades earlier. Whatever one might think of NSNA, Connery did indeed play Bond as a near retirement 50-year-old. In fact Sean insisted that he play Bond as his own age. So we saw the brash young Bond of DN -TB era, now as an older lured-out-of-retirement Bond, and played by the same actor.
    Meanwhile old-dog Craig was young-pup Craig-Bond only one film earlier. Whacko!!
    God, I hope the insanity ends soon and we get back to Bond basics, ie prime-time double-0, on assignment, on mission and reveling in being Bond in his double-0 prime, minus all the tedious personal drama.
    But its not going to happen with Mendes and Craig driving the bus. Not a fat chance with these two drama slaves. Don't be fooled by the SF ending. That's a hallmark of the Craig era. Film goes off reservation,but then assures that all is back to normal at the end. Yeah right. Fool me once........

    Very good post. The Bond reboot has been established, M, Q and MP are all back in place, theres no anniversary that demands some fan wank so can we just go out and make a bog standard Bond film with a mission, a villain some massive stunts and Bond shagging the girl?

    I'm happy for Craigs last film to be full of drama/character arcs etc but give the bloke one classic entry. If you shake up the formula with every film there ends up being no formula and to still be going after 50 years they must have been doing something right.

    As for the DB5 for Christs sake let it rest in peace now. It was bad enough it had to be dredged up in the Brozza era and then again in CR. Just leave it.

    TLD managed it perfectly - just give Bond the latest Aston and youre sorted. Shoehorning in the DB5 with every new Bond just tells me you have no confidence in what you are doing. If youve got a strong plot and characters you have faith in you really dont need to be resorting to such tokenism.

    DC is one of the best Bonds ever so let him and the character carry the film. You dont need these trinkets.
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  • edited November 2014 Posts: 11,425
    I am actually quite keen on the idea of no 'Bond' car this time out. Don't get me wrong, the current Astons are stunning, but they featured in DAD, CR and QoS. And they haven't changed much in that time. The Vantage in TLD was an absolute beast of a car and really something very different from the DB5, so I was more than happy to see it.

    I know we're supposed to be getting a brand new Aston this time, and I'll be fine with that.

    But I quite liked YOLT, where 'the car' wasn't even Bond's and it was a very cool little Toyota.

    But please not return to MI6 handing out BMWs. I could have stomached it if they'd just been presented as hire cars, but not something Q gave him. That was shameful.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Agree. The BMWs were equivalent to Gardner giving Bond a Saab. Cringeworthy.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited November 2014 Posts: 9,117
    Getafix wrote: »
    I am actually quite keen on the idea of no 'Bond' car this time out. Don't get me wrong, the current Astons are stunning, but they featured in DAD, CR and QoS. And they haven't changed much in that time. The Vantage in TLD was an absolute beast of a car and really something very different from the DB5, so I was more than happy to see it.

    I know we're supposed to be getting a brand new Aston this time, and I'll be fine with that.

    But I quite liked YOLT, where 'the car' wasn't even Bond's and it was a very cool little Toyota.

    But please not return to MI6 handing out BMWs. I could have stomached it if they'd just been presented as hire cars, but not something Q gave him. That was shameful.

    Hear, hear. We have had a Bond car (be it gadget laden or just the DB5) in every film bar LTK since TLD. Yet in the preceding 25 years we only had GF, TB, OHMSS, TSWLM and FYEO ( I'm not going to count the hire car in DN or the static shot of the Bentley in FRWL). Any chance of some originality?

    How about a modern day reboot of Little Nellie or the Acrostar instead of just another car chase with the latest Aston?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Never liked Bond in a BMW.
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    DrGorner wrote: »
    Never liked Bond in a BMW.

    It made we want to vomit. One of the multiple reasons for my immediate and visceral dislike of GE. Plus Serra of course. Oh, and have I mentioned Brosnan?
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Not a Brozza fan then. ;)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    What about Brosnan?
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    What about Brosnan?

    Oh, I'm just a big fan of his Bond, that's all.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    Getafix wrote: »
    What about Brosnan?

    Oh, I'm just a big fan of his Bond, that's all.

    I'm glad I lived long enough to see you finally admit it! :))
  • edited April 2017 Posts: 11,425
    Damn that DB5!

    Just hope it doesn't make another appearance in B25!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    It's ironic that this vehicle has become such a trope during the Craig era, which was supposed to cleanse itself of such cliched nostalgia.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    bondjames wrote: »
    It's ironic that this vehicle has become such a trope during the Craig era, which was supposed to cleanse itself of such cliched nostalgia.

    Indeed. It's fascinating that, though its return in every film post OHMSS is to evoke a feeling of the 60s, Dan's Bond has ended up taking more ownership for the car than Sean's Bond ever did! He only used it on two missions, but Dan's Bond has it as his car of choice.

    I like its presence in the films more than most, however, as it only further builds this Bond as a traditional man in a modern world, which is how I always see Bond anyway. And it's a gorgeous beast of a thing.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    edited April 2017 Posts: 9,020
    Personally I despise the way the DB5 was misused merely for marketing reasons in Skyfall.
    Just to produce a few "impressive" movie stills that should convince the public Craig was another Connery.
    The car was treated like a joke in the film which is deplorable.

    But if that wasn't enough they had to bring it back once more just to be in the center of another joke with Q and Bond.

    Even if I don't mind the very last scene where Bond drives away with Swann, it's again a try to evoke the golden era of Bond, the 60's.

    It seems EON knows that Craig will never even come close to Connery or the 60's Bond films so they have to bring those gimmicks to his films.
  • edited April 2017 Posts: 4,622
    If Mendes directs, the DB5 will be back. It's a running gag with him, so I'm afraid we are stuck with it, but surely once Mendes moves on, we can let it go

    I did find it funny though when Q told Bond, that about all he managed to salvage from the blown up Skyfall DB5, was the steering wheel.

    I think this was a clear dig from Mendes, at fans obsessing over the steering wheel being on the wrong side compared to to the CR car.

    Smartass Mendes :P
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    timmer wrote: »
    If Mendes directs, the DB5 will be back. It's a running gag with him, so I'm afraid we are stuck with it, but surely once Mendes moves on, we can let it go

    I did find it funny though when Q told Bond, that about all he managed to salvage from the blown up Skyfall DB5, was the steering wheel.

    I think this was a clear dig from Mendes, at fans obsessing over the steering wheel being on the wrong side compared to to the CR car.

    Smartass Mendes :P

    Gotta love that meta-comedy.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    Meta-comedy, that's a nice term for something born in the marketing department of EON ;)
  • edited April 2017 Posts: 4,622
    It's a total in-joke too, because unless you follow fan message boards and discussions, one wouldn't be aware of the uproar.
    I found very little talk on the matter, in the workplace or at socal and family gatherings.
    Imagine....and that steering wheel was so obviously on the wrong side.
    Do people not pay attention?!
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