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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited September 2020 Posts: 16,404
    It does seem to fit a good number of them: no idea how it fits the others but somehow I think the actual answer will baffle me equally! :)
  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    Tokoloshe2 wrote: »
    I might finally have it.

    Inosuke Shikimori, the gyoji (referee) from the sumo match where Bond meets Aki?

    Had thought about the sumo match, but not the ref. Hope you have it.
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    Posts: 1,175
    For clarification, it seems "Shikimori Inosuke" is a title passed on to holders of that role, it's not the name of either the character or the actor (presumably it was a real sumo referee of that era).

    Gyoji is a more general term for a sumo referee.
  • Max_The_ParrotMax_The_Parrot ATAC to St Cyril’s
    Posts: 2,426
    It is (finally) the gyōji (Sumo Wrestling Referee) in YOLT

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    1 Look up! I should be underground by rights, and yet I'm above it all
    The canopy suspended above the ring depicts a Shinto shrine, standing under this would be the equivalent of being underground. However the ring itself is always raised above ground level

    2 I carry a weapon, concealed you might say.
    holding a wooden gunbai, or war fan. The art of fighting with gunbai is tessenjutsu, however in sumo it is used for signals and commands.

    3 Red. My status assured.
    the red rosettes and tassels show he has reached san'yaku - the second highest rank for gyōji

    4 I've worked my way up the ladder, and am almost at the top.
    He holds the second highest rank, something that takes many years to achieve

    5 If he asked nicely I might allow Bond to enter, but not his companion.
    women are not allowed to enter the ring

    6 I'm involved in a financial transaction.
    at the end of the fight, he presents the winner with his money prize, placed on his gunbai

    7 I'm caught in a brief downpour, but not of rain ...
    We see the wrestlers throw salt around the ring to purify it

    8 ... so I suppose it's a good job I'm wearing a hat.

    9 No fear of Covid-19 here, we've taken appropriate measures.
    throwing of salt and prayers purify the ring and keep the occupants safe from harm

    10 My services could have been put to good use in a later movie, although not to Bond's advantage
    Bond encountering the sumo wrestlers in TMWTGG, however grabbing the buttocks is an illegal move so Bond would be disqualified

    11 I waste no time ... before he realizes it Bond has missed all the fun
    most sumo matches, including this one, are over in a few seconds

    12 So nearly the centre of attention for so many
    large crowds are watching, although the wrestlers are the focus of attention

    13 Picture Clues
    SPECTRE ring (the sumo ring he is stood in) and a fan of Solitaire's cards (the gunbai, or war fan he holds)

    14 You'll find me on the beach, perhaps? There are similarities, certainly
    The ring is covered in sand, and the wrestlers look like they are dressed for sunbathing

    15 Bond has a clear view of me until someone gets in the way Aki

    16 On this occasion, Bond had help from someone in his past, but it wasn't Moneypenny
    Bond speaks Japanese, thanks to his tutor(s) in Oxford, not Moneypenny's phrase book

    17 There is no background music to this scene, I provide many of the sound effects
    instructions are shouted before, during and after the match

    18 I appear to be disguised as someone I'm not ...
    the costume is designed to look like a Shinto priest

    19 ... Bond will meet another person soon who is dressed much like me, though not viridescent enough
    Bond is on his way to see Henderson, who wears a kimono - a visually similar type of clothing - but not green

    20 Visually you'd have to say I am the opposite of the people I'm next to
    covered up as a priest compared to the almost naked wrestlers

    21 Although a little late, Bond quickly makes himself at home
    Takes his shoes off, sits on the floor and enjoys the entertainment

    22 Bond only sees me because Mr Big was gonna take care of him
    Sadanoyama Shinmatsu, real life sumo wrestler, gave Bond the ticket to get in

    23 Bond and I are finished at the same time
    as soon as the winner is presented with his prize Bond tells Aki it's time to go

    23 Nobody will be arguing with me without severe consequences
    wrestlers will never question the decision of the gyōji, to do so would be considered highly disrespectful

    24 Mouse picture: Getting rid of these could be quite revealing
    mouse - get rid of "the e's" and you're left with the letters of the word sumo

    25 Did I slip into something more comfortable, like Octopussy did perhaps?
    The gyōji's silk outfit is reminiscent of Octopussy's silk dressing gown - says a lot about the way my mind works

    26 One mistake now could be the cause of some embarrassment for all concerned
    Occasionally it has been known for a wrestler's belt to come undone

    27 These tassels could be a hassle.
    tassels hang from the canopy and from the gyōji's costume

    28 Are you in or out? I know the answer!
    The aim of sumo is to remove your opponent from the ring, the gyōji makes the overall decision

    29 Despite clue 9's reassurance, the enochlophobic should probably stay away
    large crowds surround the ring on all sides

    30 I never let go of what's in my right hand the gunbai

    31 While I'm busy working, James is busy flirting
    telling Aki he loves her

    32 I'm stood next to characters doing something that the actors playing those characters have done many times before
    The two sumo wrestlers are professional wrestlers in real life

    33 Like a magician, one moment I'm not there. The next I appear. Corners have been cut!
    As Bond walks to his seat we see a different gyōji in the ring, by the time he has sat down this gyōji is in the ring ready to start - in reality there would be several minutes of ritual to end one round and start the next

    34 Are you wondering who these two are? I'll tell you more than once!
    It's the job of the gyōji to introduce the wrestlers, he shouts the names of the two wrestlers in this round - Kotozakura and Fujinishiki - twice

    35 You see plenty of others doing something that you see me doing, but not how I do it!
    Lots of people in the audience wafting a fan to keep themselves cool, in contrast to using a fan to referee the match

    36 Perhaps Bond was hoping for a quick facial, or maybe a manicure, while he was here?
    The door he enters from outside is labelled with the words Beauty Salon, partially covered

    37 You see another person doing the same job as me!
    As Bond enters we see another gyōji referring the previous round

    38 Picture clue -a flag made of green, red, black and white
    we see green red black and white tassels hanging from the canopy above the ring

    39 Look down! Admire the geometrical symmetry
    the sumo ring is a circle within a square

    40&41 for these picture clues you needed to consider the dialogue at these points
    '...showing a bit more cheek than usual...' - the wrestlers do just that
    'As you said such good sport' - sumo is the national sport of Japan

    42 Bond arrives alone and leaves accompanied, but not by me
    He leaves with Aki

    43 This scene is not a studio set but filmed at a real location
    The scene is filmed inside Ryogoku Kokugikan, the National Sumo Stadium in Tokyo


    Congrats @Tokoloshe2 excellent work. I was surprised clue 16 didn't do it as there's limited examples of Moneypenny trying to help Bond with his work, and then I really hoped someone would cotton onto clue 24. Anyway, good work! I'm so glad you got this, there's only so many clues I can come up with.

    Having said that, I've really enjoyed finding out more about the art of sumo, it's fascinating stuff and hopefully you've all learnt something along the way that will enhance your watching of the scene in future!!



  • pachazopachazo Make Your Choice
    Posts: 7,314
    A huge round of applause to @Tokoloshe2 for solving that one! =D>
    You've put us all to shame!
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    Posts: 4,483
    Amazing round @Max_The_Parrot. Tricky clues, background information, riddles and very talented in thinking about so many clues for such a short scene. Bravo.
    And well done @Tokoloshe2. I wasn't even close.
  • WillyGalore_ReduxWillyGalore_Redux I like my beer cold, my TV loud and my homosexuals flaaaaaaming
    Posts: 294
    That was a superb round. Congrats to @Tokoloshe2 for solving such a fiendish riddle. Bravo Sir =D>
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,260
    I bow deeply for the victor @Tokoloshe2 of this round, and the increadable master of riddles which is @Max_The_Parrot for such a nerve-wrecking round. Well done to the both of you!
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    I can only agree with what has already been said.
    Congrats to @Tokoloshe2 for finally cracking this one.
    And well done to @Max_The_Parrot for creating a such a long lasting round. Surely one for the ages. =D>
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    Posts: 1,175
    Thanks all, and well done Max for such a good round. Clues were excellent with the exception of the MOUSE-SUMO one which was far too much of a stretch, if I'm honest. But nonetheless a cracking round and I'll now put my thinking cap on for how to surpass it.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,974
    Damn, that's a great round, don't think I ever would've had that sumo ref pop up as even a fleeting idea for a guess. Great work all around, @Max_The_Parrot, and wonderful job figuring it out, @Tokoloshe2. Looking forward to what you come up with.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    Great job from you as well, @Birdleson . This time it took you just three minutes to type that full list from memory.
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  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    edited September 2020 Posts: 1,175
    OK let's do this! A new EON character:

    1. My success did not prevent my death, which was unexpected and gruesome...

    2. ... and yet strangely dignified.
  • WillyGalore_ReduxWillyGalore_Redux I like my beer cold, my TV loud and my homosexuals flaaaaaaming
    Posts: 294
    Dawes from the PTS of LALD?
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    Posts: 1,175
    It's not Dawes, but thanks for starting us off.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    Posts: 2,148
    Sharkey ?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,974
    May Day?
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,260
    Dario?
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    Posts: 1,175
    None of the above, I'm afraid.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    Posts: 2,148
    Stromberg's assistant ?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,974
    Paula?
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    Posts: 1,175
    Not the assistant nor Paula.
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    Posts: 1,175
    It's not him.
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    edited September 2020 Posts: 1,175
    Two more clues:

    1. My success did not prevent my death, which was unexpected and gruesome...
    2. ... and yet strangely dignified.
    3. Picture clue:

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    4. Bond has only just gained the status I once had.


    Incorrect:

    Dario
    Dawes
    May Day
    Paula Caplan
    Sharkey
    Special Forces guy (TLD PTS)
    Stromberg's assistant
  • WillyGalore_ReduxWillyGalore_Redux I like my beer cold, my TV loud and my homosexuals flaaaaaaming
    Posts: 294
    Kra?
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    Posts: 1,175
    That's a nah to Kra.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,588
    Admiral Farrell?
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    Posts: 1,175
    No luck with Chuck.
  • Tokoloshe2Tokoloshe2 Northern Ireland
    edited September 2020 Posts: 1,175
    Moving to new page:

    1. My success did not prevent my death, which was unexpected and gruesome...

    2. ... and yet strangely dignified.

    3. Picture clue:

    5efcc9915df4f5066194e539-large.jpg?cache_buster=3e0d37b5b693115eca5a73aa421e1e96

    4. Bond has only just gained the status I once had.


    Incorrect:

    Admiral Chuck Farrell
    Dario
    Dawes
    Kra
    May Day
    Paula Caplan
    Sharkey
    Special Forces guy (TLD PTS)
    Stromberg's assistant


  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    Posts: 4,483
    Dryden?
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