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Connery/Brosnan
Moore
Craig
Lazenby
Connery (far ahead of the pack)
Craig/Dalton/Moore (it's close and changes because they're all great)
Lazenby
Brosnan (Brozz would be level with Laz for me if he stopped at GE)
Fair enough.
How do you rate OHMSS as a film though?
I've always loved it, but on a recent rewatching I realised it didn't make sense to rank the film so highly but have Laz in 4th or 5th place. I feel that there's a taboo around saying that Laz was actually really quite good.
I watched OHMSS recently and I think the early bit is brilliant. All the way up to Piz Gloria. When he gets to Piz Gloria it just shuts down for me (with the Angels of Death stuff etc). Then it picks up brilliantly again with the ski sequence and Tracey meet at the bottom and then I found the finale back at Piz Gloria sort of boring (even though it ranked so highly on this site in a recent vote).
I guess I don't rate the movie as highly as some do on this site, which is likely why my ranking of Laz is lower than many. I've always liked him (I actually preferred him to Dalton when I was younger, although that's changed now) but I personally think he's lower than all but the Brozz now. Also, I think Lazenby sort of benefits from being in a deep (for Bond) movie based on a novel, something not all Bonds have had the benefit of.
I agree the scenes at Piz Gloria are a bit limp. It's played too campy IMO. But I guess that was the era. Has a bit of a Blake Edwards vibe. And that girl from Lancashire is pretty dire - makes it feel like a Carry On movie at that point. But I don't think that's Laz's fault - they dubbed him for god's sake...
I think for the rest of the film, when's allowed to actually use his own voice, he's very good. The whole escape with Tracy is a fantastic sequence - you really feel their relationship being forged amongst all that tension.
Yes, agreed. that whole bit is really good. One of the best scenes in a Bond movie I think.
Lazenby did great there; the whole film was on fire at that point.
That's what I mean. One of the best scenes in a Bond movie - surely Laz deserves to be ranked more highly than he often is?
Rog
Tim
Sean
Brozzer
Dan
Laz (going off one film, it's hard to rank him any higher. But I really liked Lazenby in OHMSS. I thought he was excellent. OHMSS is my no.1, btw).
Yes, he played that scene very very well. Very subtle but you could feel the connection between the two of them. Rigg was an accomplished actress, and Laz held his own without appearing hammy/melodramatic. He underplayed it with depth. The only one to do it as well was Craig imo, and he is also an accomplished actor.
However, Moore, Dalton & Craig have brought so much more to the series over their tenures that I can't in good conscience rank Laz higher than them or the man god that is Connery.
'Action Hero' means that if you attempt what you see on screen in real life you will die.
There's a difference.
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I'm not getting where Dalton's fights were 'inexcusable'?
The best Moore fights were in the earlier films, but he was also younger so that may explain it. I'm sure Tim could have stepped it up if he had a better choreographer during his two movies.
Pierce never had a better fight than the one he had in GE for example and that is probably due to the choreography. I found the TND ones pretty bad in comparison (particularly in the news factory). I remember thinking, what happened (after GE that is)? I actually felt the same way about SF vs. CR/QoS (much better). It's the same Craig in all 3 but he looks so much better in the fights in the first 2.
Dalton stepped up to the plate pretty well in Rocketeer, and that wasn't a film known for its pugilism. Most actors are not trained fighters, but can move well enough if given the right moves to execute. Look at Keanu Reeves in The Matrix.
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Yes, that kitchen fight is very good for that era. I've always enjoyed that one.
I'm surprised that Glen and Co. did not give Dalton a direct one on one fisticuff fight of that nature. I can't remember one except maybe the end scene with Sanchez in LTK, but even that wasn't done as well as it could have been. I can understand with Moore because he was already in his 50's when Glen took over, but Dalton was in his prime and surely could have handled the physicality of it. The only thing I can think of is maybe Dalton did not want to do them for some reason. It seems surpising that they had such a well choreographed sequence in TLD without Bond otherwise.
I'm looking forward to the fight elimination game. I'm betting now that Connery/FRWL will win, & Brozz/GE will probably come 2nd. One of Craig's will likely take 3rd.
Still, the cargo plane net stunt sort of makes up for it, even if it isn't actually the Daltonator on screen!
I agree here. And as GE stands, it fits Brosnan far better. Take the antagonism between Trevelyan and Bond for instance: Brosnan's youthful look and his inexperience in the role make it far more believable. Sean Bean looks like he could out-think Bond and have the upper hand in a fight. Have the more mature Dalton, who is naturally more menacing than Brosnan, and Trevelyan is weakened right away.
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I had actually wondered about this. Hand to hand combat, is I imagine a sign of failure in the world of espionage. You don't go around getting into fights all the time as it draws attention to you. If you need to take someone out you do as cleanly and coldly as possible. Like the Daltonator.
So by that logic the train fight in FRWL is a load of rubbish.
Yes, I would agree with this. I don't mind a brawl now and then, but I don't think that they are essential in a Bond film. If done very well, a la FRWL and GE, I have nothing to complain about because they are classic scenes, but, as brutal as the CR stairwell fight was, it does seem a bit crowbarred in (especially in an already saturated release).
Clearly not. An unavoidable, brutal and crucially unseen encounter. A classic scene in the series.