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Nobody does. We say it was comparatively weaker than other's, save Lazenby's, regardless of its intrinsic quality. Maybe GE would have been better, but I am not so sure and it is not really obvious, is it? And I am not a Brosnan fan,
LTK is Quality is though.
It was actually the weakest debut in the US of any Bond actor (both Dalton's films came in at #22 and 24 respectively, adjusted for ticket price inflation). Globally it's not much better. Living Daylights is sitting at #21 and LTK sits at #24 globally in inflation adjusted terms.
A Bond actor has to explode out of the gates. Dalton did not.
http://www.007james.com/articles/box_office.php
As @Ludovico said, the public was 'expecting someone else'. In 1995, they got what they wanted (ps: one the best trailers ever imho).
Very much agreed.
A 1995 version of GoldenEye featuring Dalton would not have been viable, I don't think. The series had begun to show signs of age, or at least audience fatigue, before Dalton took over and the trend just continued until the legal battles put the series on hiatus for six years. They had to change the lead actor coming into GoldenEye, regardless of how good Dalton was in the role.
Hmm. I think it's a strong debut. Better film and performance IMO than LALD and GE. Being a big Dalton fan I personally probably rate it above CR as well.
Choosing between any of the debuts now, I'd watch TLD over CR, GE and LALD most times. And inthink Dalton totally owns the role from the first scenes. I think Cubby was pretty happy with it and with Dalton as well.
The two superior debuts are Connery and OHMSS, although Dalton's performance is perhaps superior to Lazenby. Therefore, in terms of performance I'd argue that TLD is the second best debut after Connery.
Arnie, Sly, Bruce & Mel were cleaning up in the 80's. By the mid-90's they had all sort of run their course.
I agree on Dalton throwing on the drama a little heavily at times.... "Delllaaaaaa!"
The only one I can think of is when he calls out Elektra but it's not as heavy handed as Della or YOU'RE BLOODY LUCKY TO BE ALIVE!!!
I definitely agree regarding the Glen films. While the franchise was losing steam from a box office perspective, as I said earlier, I think the quality of those films was rather high, especially when compared to the films that immediately preceded them. FYEO, OP, TLD, LTK, and to a lesser extent AVTAK are all films that I rank pretty high compared to most of the rest of the films.
Not sure. I can let the slapstick pass mostly as the test of those films is so good.
It's such total nonsense that Dalton 'can't do humour'. Have you seen Hot Fuzz? I'd even argue that he handles most of the humour in his Bond movies pretty well.
I've never really understood where this idea comes from. And Dalton actually said after LTK that he wanted his next one to have more laughs. It's a bit like CR and QOS where they dialled back the humour and then ramped it up more with the next two movies (although not entirely successfully IMO). I watched SP in London a couple of weeks ago and I think there was one moment the audience laughed in the whole film.
Any way, Dalton was perfectly capable of handling humour and there's every reason to believe that his third would have made a point of upping the laughs.
"He met his Waterloo"
"Looks like he came to a dead end"
"He got the BOOT"
Agreed. He also showed that he could handle humor very well during his turn on the NBC series Chuck.
Now, I will say, as @BAIN123 said above, that he does struggle somewhat with the Roger Moore-style humor, but that's not the only kind of humor that can exist in a Bond film.
Dalton is capable of humour (he has appeared in comedies before), but not the type of humour he was given. The one-liners in LTK were definitely better than the awful ones in TLD. "Salt corrosion" and "he met his waterloo" sucked, lol.
this I agree with
Probably because he was such a theatrical actor. Acting on the stage is so different to acting on screen. Theatre acting is all about making it big, whereas on screen conversely you go small. If you're being projected so that your eyes are measured in feet your acting needs to be the opposite of theatre acting -it's more subtle.
Dalton was quite good in Hot Fuzz
His performance was a lot more animated and he projected his voice very forcefully......much better than his wife who was in the same play.
I remember thinking of Dalton at that point, because DC's performance on stage reminded me of Dalton's performance as Bond, with all the animation/drama.
Interesting. I've never seen DC act on stage, but imagine he would be very good. I reckon he'll make a good Iago.
As someone pointed out above, there are lots of ways to do humour, not just the Moore style, and Dalton is clearly capable of handling humour, especially when it's written to suit his style - the same goes for all the Bond actors.
Yes. He's often looks around dramatically and tenses up his face. There's a very "visual" quality to quite a lot of his acting.
For me, this is most obvious in LTK during the scene with Lupe in the casino (I think it's probably his weakest performance as Bond too). You can see him trying to act angry and aggressive with him turning his head all the time.
The pause, followed by his dramatic delivery of "TAKE ME TO HIM" doesn't feel particularly natural to me either.
I think Dalts did a lot of good stuff in LTK but I don't feel he excels in this scene. All I can think in my head is "he's acting".