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Had Hopkins and Dalton shared the screen together (in a Bond film) that would have been the second time they'd done so.
As per comments above, the villain was originally planned to be Hopkins. Wouldn't that have been terrible?
Bean would probably have made a more interesting Bond than Brosnan as well
Ha ha. No one more blue collar than Sean and look how that turned out?!
It's called acting.
Sean had Terrance Young. Without him, truth be told, Sean would be nothing. I remember even you commenting on Connery being crap in Marnie (made around the time of Dr No).
Besides I'm not entirely convinced Fleming ever really accepted Connery in the role. Despite what people say about him changing his mind.
I actually think Brosnan had potential as well, but had pretty poor direction. I suspect that most of his directors actually had little respect for him. That's how it feels to me any way.
And yes Connery is appalling in Marnie. Hitchcock was probably not the right director for him at that time. May be a few years later Connery would have handled the role better. Hitch should have cast someone else.
Having said that, Marnie is a dreadful story. Totally dated. You suspect that even at the time people thought it was a bit dodgey.
Broz is teaming up with Campbell again btw to make an adaptation of Across the River and into the Trees.
I don't rate Campbell that much tbh. I hated GE when it came out. CR is a lot better mainly due to Craig, but on a recent rewatch I wasn't bowled over.
As you know I essentially feel Brosnan was miscast. Having said that, I can definitely envisage a scenario where, with a decent script and much better director he could have done something interesting with the role.
For me the issue isn't so much overacting as his misjudging scenes. Tonally Brosnan is all over the place. He never had an idea about what Bond was or who he was. He just plods through it scene by scene with no overarching take on the character. It's why his films as so dull. Nothing resonates or is remotely believable. Connery and Moore were masters at taking essentislly hokum and making us believe in it. Brosnan doesn't sell the character or the scene in the same way.
Dalton is not perfect, but at least (IMO) he gets the tone of most scenes right.
As you know I have my issues with Dalton. I think he sometimes was guilty of pushing the dramatics a bit too much to the point where it felt acted (Bond finding Della for example doesn't have the punch it was meant to and leaves me feeling nothing).
That said there's no doubt he took charge of the role and for that he has to be commended.
Bean versus Dalton would not have worked. In fact the inexperience of Brosnan in GE was I think an asset in regard to his antagonism with Trevelyan.
Agreed. Bean vs Dalton wouldn't have worked at all. I think the more likely scenario was that he auditioned for the part of Bond, impressed BB, who then kept him in mind when they needed to go younger with the villain after Brosnan replaced Dalton as Bond.
What were these action scenes?
It's difficult to imagine anything more ridiculous than the 'I can fly' PTS in GE
From the first time I saw that sequence I felt Bond had entered cartoon world - more so even than anything in the Moore era. That abysmal flying sequence and the kite surfing in DAD top and tail the Brosnan era perfectly.
Honestly I'm 50/50 on which I'd prefer in the movie. It would've been a good finale for Dalton but it's also a great start for Brosnan. I will say that the lines at the end would've been great to hear coming from Dalton and Anthony Hopkins. "For England, James?" "No. For me."
Technically it wasn't "flying" but "falling with style" *
*I acknowledge this shameless Toy Story reference.
I also don't see a problem matching Dalton and Bean up. There's an age difference, sure, but both are talented enough actors to make it work.
There's nothing wrong with Toy Story references.
I don't get the sense @Getafix is fond of Bean as an actor.
Bruce, I think if it was the same word for word, it wouldnt have suites Dalton as much. I really can't for the life of me imagine him saying the line "Boys with toys".
I think the film was a classic, and a super start to Brosnans era.
Rather than seeing Tim in GE, I would have much rather see him bow out in another film better suited to him in between LTK and GE
I'd actually rather see him in AVTAK. That might actually make me like that movie more. Plus I think it would be a good first movie for Dalton. Heck, I wouldn't mind seeing his start in OP.
I mean, ideally I'd have rather seen Dalton in every Bond film ever.
Realistically, though, I probably prefer a film between LTK and GE, too.
Hurrah! Me too. I especially always wanted to see him do a Casino Royale and Moonraker that bore some resemblance to the books.
I don't have too much of an issue with Bean. Bit 'TV' ish. I remembered the rumours about Hopkins being in the next Bond film so when Bean was cast I was a bit disappointed.
Bean for me is not one of the great Bond villains.
I can't remember from the IMDB boards, are you a Craig fan? I am just assuming as you are a Dalton fan you may well be.
I am personally of the opinion that Craig is essentially a facsimile of Dalton, with more muscles but less charisma.
Agreed. I read all the time how great the cast for Goldeneye is, but the only ones who spring to mind as any good are Karyo and John.
Brosnan making his appearance hanging upside down in a toilet summed it all for me. Bond had gone down the pan.
Dalton would have improved it, and perhaps with him they'd have built a better film around him. But as it is I'm not sure he could have saved it because it's essentially not very good.
For some...no actually A LOT...it was the first Bond film they saw and grew up with. Myself included.
For me personally It was a definitive film. That's undebatable. I know its got its flaws but its always been one I've enjoyed when I've watched it. It's a film I have a strong personal and emotional connection to. Everyone has one Bond film they are nostalgic about and mine is GE so I am more than entitled to defend it.
Coltrane, Scorrupco, Dench, Kitchen, Janssen?