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Oh yes, god forbid we'll have to edit a real man reading a Playboy magazine and Q's gadget getting the job done so the newbies don't find OHMSS so long and boring I-)
A peculiar edit of the DAF titles (note: strange cuts between credits and Albert R. Broccoli credited before Harry Saltzman, which doesn't happen in any other release)
i.e. burnt-in: http://www.zetaminor.com/images/news_pictures_2006/james_bond_2006/007_screengrabs/goldeneye_caption_r1_500.jpg
i.e. player-generated: http://www.zetaminor.com/images/news_pictures_2006/james_bond_2006/007_screengrabs/goldeneye_caption_ue_500.jpg
I just discovered this the other day! I always liked the old CBS/FOX VHS editions of the Bonds. Great colors that looked fairly accurate to the cinematic versions.
OK- THUNDERBALL -at least until around 1995 always had the "Now you can tell about the one that got away" line when exiting the shark pool on the VHS editions. Also missing the music during the underwater bit previously mentioned. The CBS/FOX version of TB omits the mink it reduces the tension sequence as well. The Bond theme at the end is a Thunderballish orchestration as well- far smoother than just copy/pasting the Dr No recording over the credits.
In 1992 the Bonds were digitally remastered and some copies of TB are effed up in the credits- erasing the titles until "Ian Fleming's Thunderball" appears.
The CBS/Fox version of TMWTGG has blueish dots during the gunbarrel and Barry's score is missing a few minutes about half way in.
I have yet to see a copy of this but apparently some of the early NSNA DVD releases were also messed up and missing some of the casino sequence.
The CBS/FOX version of AVTAK has the titles letterboxed in Blue ( I believe TSWLM titles were similar).
Also TLD gunbarrel and both credit sequences were letterboxed on CBS/FOX.
Also, the opening dots on my SE TMWTGG DVD are blue, but white on my VHS and Blu Ray. I've heard that they were blue originally in theatres. Can anyone confirm this? Was it different in different territories across the globe? Surely if all original prints had blue dots they should still be blue dots to preserve the original release of the film?
They divided the hemispheres between them, as to who gets mentioned first. What you have there is a foreign edition.
And if I can believe Michael Scheingraber's "Die James Bond Filmen", there were some cuts in DN (the death of the titular Doctor) and FRWL (the fight against Grant) so as to get the "ab 12" rating for each movie.
FWIW, this was from a 1984 American CBS/FOX pressing.
That's right! I wish I still had my SE TMWTGG DVD. I'm curious as to how the dots looked in the cinema. I believe on imdb there was a blurb that the dots for AVTAK were red in the cinema. I vividly remember white dots for VIEW when I saw it on the big screen.
I really would prefer the DVDs and Blu rays to be color timed as close to the cinema as possible. None of this experimenting with the colors to make it look like Twilight or The Matrix. One of the reasons I like those old CBS/FOX videos. Anytime I've seen a reasonably clean 35mm print of FRWL or YOLT it looked pretty much like the old CBS/FOX transfer in terms of color.
That's interesting, never heard about AVTAK's dots being red. I was 11 when TND came out and with all the red colours used in the ad campaign I thought they might make the dots red for TND!
So they probably got hold of a copy meant for the southern hemisphere.
At the local cinema now, one of the posters is upside down, haha! People make mistakes.
-Felix's yell as Sanchez's goons shoot at the plane on the landing strip in the pre-title sequence (DVD versions show him yelling, but no sound is heard)
-Extra sound effects from Sanchez's plane as the DEA helicopter captures it in mid-air
-Extra bullet impacts and a brief, audible grimace by Bond as he hits the ground after jumping over the rail at the Hemingway house (I don't seem to recall hearing an audible reaction from Bond as he hit the ground in the DVD version)
*I believe there were other additional sound effects during Kilifer's sabotage of the police van, but I can't remember what they were at the moment.
These are small differences, but I really love catching them; it's like watching License to Kill for the first time!
I think my OHMSS VHS tape might omit this line. How strange to omit a single line that really isn't too noticeable. Do you know anything about why it was removed on certain releases?
I saw a YouTube video of the whole, uncut stairwell fight one time, and it was magnificent! I wish the DVD version of CR that I have included the uncut version. Is there an "uncut" Casino Royale DVD?
I remember that scene having some strange camera work, but I can't remember this particular instance!
Also in the 1992 remastered version of Dr No some of the colors were changed during the titles. For example- the title card that says " starring Sean Connery" the red 007 box thingies were changed to green. Subtitles were added to various scenes in FRWL and YOLT that were in no other version prior.
Back in the 90s I was fairly obsessed with having the most accurate versions of the Bond films to the extent once I finally got to see clean 35mm prints of the Connery films on
the big screen, I would immediately compare the VHS counterparts. I felt the original CBS/Fox editions (especially YOLT) looked closest to the film prints color wise.
Another oddity: the CBS/Fox version of Goldfinger plays faster than other transfers so the Shirley Bassey title song begins in F rather than E.
Ah that's interesting - can anyone comment on other differences between the CBS/FOX and MGM/UA releases of the other films? I only have OHMSS from those two series in my collection and those tapes use exactly the same print (albeit somewhat brighter on the 88).
I'd certainly like to see that version of OHMSS. It must have been weird to have seen this edited version before that movie itself.
The CBS/Fox edition of OHMSS is missing a few shots when Bond is escapes behind the cable car machinery. These shots were restored in the 1992 MGM/UA remastered transfer. I haven't seen the '88 edition in years, but it was the same print as the CBS/fox- even down to the pan and scanning. If I'm not mistaken, the gun barrel was squeezed in this print making the dots look like ovals. Also the CBS/Fox LALD had a squeezed gunbarrel as well. I remember getting the 1988 Moore classics edition of LALD and being disappointed by the colors- very washed out, magenta and bland compared to the CBS/Fox version.
I need to find an older VHS copy of OHMSS; that CBS/Fox edition you mentioned sounds neat with its missing shots! I think I read that there are some VHS versions of OHMSS that delete the cable car scene with Grunther and Campbell, and I might have also read about the safe-cracking scene either being shortened or deleted. Can you shed any light on this?
My 1980s OHMSS VHS had all of the safecracking scene cut. It goes straight from Bond leaving Draco and Tracy (he sees the sign for Gumbold's office) and then you see Bond arriving at Quarterdeck. Whereas on TV in the 80s that scene was shown.
As far as I remember the VHS versions didn't so much delete the Campbell cable car scene. It wasn't available on any screened version I saw, until it was restored for the Ultimate Edition DVDs, I think. I remember in a 007 Magazine from the 1990s, there was an article on how there had been the discovery of this lost scene. however at that time they only had some stills of it.