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however, this film does a good job with the story.. i appreciate it's slow burn towards the climax.... Bond films don't need to be crammed to the gills with action where its not needed - that was part of the problem with TWINE... it was too stubborn on keeping with the traditional Bond formula (even more so during the Brosnan era, with the overuse of heavy action sequences) that when it came time for the more personal stuff, it felt like the film just slammed on the brakes... it was a disjointed film suffering from an identity crisis..... in many ways, TWINE was a practice run for SF - where they finally got it right.
Skyfall was meant to be taken seriously but impossible given the ridiculousness.
But to be fair, SF probably owes as much to TMWTGG.
Goldfinger - The core formula, of course.
Goldeneye - The villain is an MI6 traitor believed to be dead and now is trying to convince Bond that MI6 is bad.
The World Is Not Enough - The villain wants to take revenge against M and kill M
Die Another Day - Bond nearly dies, but escapes death, comes back to life and continues his mission. And the cyanide bit.
Don't forget the beards. I'm not saying Brosnan's beard in DAD inspired Craig's in SF, but it is an interesting coincidence that in both films, Bond has a beard during the time between the PTS and the film proper.
Err... What about TMWTGG? I think SF owes a LOT more to that movie Than GF or DAD.
Agreed. I don't really see any immediate comparisons with GF, but TMWTGG, for sure. Villain gives the impression that he sees Bond as an equal. Resides on an island in an exotic locale. Is essentially tracked via a bullet. Bond beds his mistress during his pursuit (first interaction is in a Macau casino, too). Like Goodhead, MP is MI6 and liases with Bond on location.
You can chuck in the radio as a nod to the tracking device in GF.
A lot of the TMWTGG links are cinematic, hence why I feel it has a similar tone.
Yes exactly. Had this discussion on another thread. SF is heavily based on TMWTGG movie - not the novel.
Have you read the novel? There's a lot of elements lifted from it.
Okay I need to read it. But I keep on getting very conflicting messages on this. Loads of people tell me that the TMWTGG film has little to do with the novel but SF resembles the film a lot, so I'm unclear about where the influences are coming from.
-Bond returns after a long absence, thought for dead.
-He is sent to a mission to get him back on his track.
-The villain is Hispanic.
-The mission is a lot about revenge over the death of fellow agents.
-Relative peripheral role of the Bond girl.
-Bond girl to assist him on a mission, relation ambiguous, maybe platonic.
-Bond uses a gun to shoot a target over a woman's head.
-An attempt is made on M's life.
-Said attempt done in M's office.
-Allusion to M's predecessor, who died murdered.
-The villain is a mercenary.
-The villain uses the Bond girl (or, in this instance, a dummy), to push Bond to the edge and play with his mind.
I might be missing a few similarities, but overall the novel TMWTGG heavily inspired SF.
Of course after 22 films, it's difficult to make something new. Sure, CR did many things 'new' and even QOS had some fairly original things to offer, but I'm more intrigued by SP. With our enthusiasm slowly building, reactions to the trailer have been rather positive with specific praise for the callbacks to OHMSS.
I'm just curious to see how people will respond to those in the finished film. ;-)
It's a bold move, but I too wonder what it means and how it will play out. I'm fairly sure that many casual fans haven't seen OHMSS and may not even have recognized the music in the trailer (after all, it's not a very famous #1 hit or anything, being an instrumental....even if one of Barry's best). However, hardcore fans are truly being teased with these throwbacks, as we have more of an understanding of the possible implications.
Ultimately, EON/Mendes must be very confident in order to do this, given the reverence the earlier film has these days among the faithful. It's a great technique to stir the passions and increase enthusiasm among the hardcore fans for SP.
I've been member of a student fraternity. And in my time we properly "initiated" a new member in our "dispuut" (is Dutch for "association, a leg or branch of a fraternity).
TWINE has practically the same story with M.
Silva is a mix of Alec Trevelyan and The Joker from The Dark Knight.
I recommend watching TWINE and Skyfall back to back and you'll see how lazy the writing in Skyfall was.
When I saw Skyfall the first time, and I didn't know a thing about the story, I fell almost out of my seat when realising how similar it was in places to TWINE.
I know.
It's one of the things I don't understand about Babs. What is the hold that P+W have over her and EON? They're awful.