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I agree... I have a soft spot for QOS, and I feel it gets a hard time! The script has many holes in it yes, but DC is good and looks wise I think Marc Forster did a good job, Notably the Opera sequence. Me and my 10yrs son watch it regularly on Blu-Ray, and we always grin like silly school boys when the Aston changes down a gear and roars through the tunnel etc!! :D
If QOS was being made now, yes it would most prob be a very different film!? But its not, and I'm happy to live with DC's 2nd outing just the way it is....Now for the 3rd outing and me and son cant wait!! :-B
I'm gonna go to London for the weekend once it's released, I'm going there for my mates wedding anyway and there's an IMAX theater nearby, so I thought I may as well try it since everybody says that IMAX films look amazing.
QOS for me, is my least favourite Bond film. There are some good moments but overall I just don't like it. There's a crap, forgettable villian and his crap henchman, the action could've been good but there's too much and it's too random, plus there's the Bourne style editing that doesn't fit. The gunbarrel is crap and to make things worse is at the end, Craig isn't as good as he was in CR (in CR he had more lighter, better moments), Dench is more overused than ever, I found the trust issues annoying, and it's too short. Plus, after CR's ending and reading an interview with Campbell, I thought that Bond would be normal Bond instead of rookie Bond, but in QOS he was even less like normal Bond than in CR.
It probably does but nonetheless I've always felt there's something a bit "off" about it. Its a film I've always tried really hard to like but in the end I just crave for GE or some Sean/Roger flick.
I like this quote:
'Quantum' is nothing less than a crushing disappointment - a barely plotted, poorly filmed, hyper-edited and most of all utterly flat vehicle that commits a crime far worse than even Roger Moore's outlandish last few films - it makes James Bond dull.
Harsh perhaps but I can't help but see where they are coming from.
This shot is only in the UK trailer. The US one features a shot of Bond being strangled underwater in it's place.
You can find both trailers on page 18 of this thread.
Londons nice to visit but it can be a pain in the arse living there. I'm living in Wales now, but I go back down there every few weeks or so to see friends or go to the football.
Dame Judi hasn't made her transformation yet...
.....Pain in the arse indeed, you know it costs me £3k a year to park outside my door or down my street, for me to drive to the country at the weekends and park for nothing on my drive!!!!!! So yes a pain, and money grabbing Local Government.....
...What football!!!? :-? .....:-B
It does a great job at teasing and doesn't just feel like 'trailer one' for once. Good job by all.
Anyway time for my two cents on the Skyfall trailer. I thought it was fantastic. Brilliant looking shots, Craig looking/sounding as sharp as ever, a very interesting (and subtle) electro rendition of the Bond theme, and some great money shots of things going bang at the end.
And in response to the Bond theme being absent: I too missed it a little, but considering that the CR and QOS trailers had more Bond theme than their respected films, I think I'll give it a pass!
Have some of you actually read (part of) the script?
I know Darren bought a couple of pages, but all of the sudden a couple of you seem to know so much. For instance, Marketto knows
I mean, where these pages made available online in some way? I'm not sure if i'd want to read them all, but I'd sure like to know where all this info is coming from!
The information is from Darren, yes. Some script pages were included in what he bought. I'm sure you've seen what he's filled in on the clapper board thread alone. Many things have come to light thanks to him.
The point the original poster was making was (I think), what distiguishes a largely humourless DC movie from other violent spy thrillers? There is a whole world of subtle variation between the camp of MR and the seriousness of QoS. This middle ground is traditionally where the cinematic Bond has resided - a place where high tension and drama collides with humour and escapism. I personally don't think that the lack of humour has much to do with DC at all. It's more due to scripts that don't understand the heritage of the series and aren't able to combine seriousness AND wit on the same page (something that's very difficult to achieve). Until they are able to do this (and perhaps SF is the film where this happens) then I won't personally feel that DC has been given the opportunity to fully reach his potenital as Bond.
But feel free to make out that I'll only be happy if there's a double-taking pigeon in there somewhere.
From Total Film:
"We couldn't shut up,” Craig recalled. “It was a chance for us to re-read Ian Fleming, and we started emailing each other, 'What about this and what about this?', and that's how it snowballed."
Though the duo weren’t giving away any plot points during their chat at the Ciragan Palace on the banks of the Bosphorus, they insisted that after the dourness of Quantum Of Solace, Skyfall would put a spring back in Bond’s step.
007 will have a ‘rich’ romantic life and will be bringing the funny back. “He’s as funny as hell in this movie,” Craig assured.
Good quote. At least Mendes and Craig agree with me any way.
But do I detect a hint of sarcasm (the lowest form of wit) in Craig's tone?
“You have to have a script that has the bones of comedy,” Craig tells us. “Comedy in Bond films, for me, comes out of the situations people get into. They're exciting, and hopefully heart-stopping, and the comedy comes out of one-liners and things. When Sam [Mendes] came in, it was key for all of us that there's a lightness of touch in the writing that's not been as evident in the past two.”
Producer Barbara Broccoli agrees. “It's got those situations where you think, 'You could only see this in a Bond movie,'” she adds. “That's where the wit comes into it.”
And this, I think, was from Sony and those interviews with Dan and Babs.
Thanks for the quotes. Very interesting. It's nice to read this stuff coming direct from DC and BB. At least I know there are others out there who feel the same way!
I hope ActonSteve doesn't take offence and start ranting at DC for his failure to appreciate the subtle, adult undertones of humour in QoS.
Btw, this does indeed bode well for SF.
I think humour works on so many different levels and depends a lot on individuals and how they respond. But yeah, the juxtaposition of high reality (or tension/drama) with an undercut of wit often works and that is a defining characteristic of the Bond films.
Well said. The only thing I abhor is the ridicule, the cheap OTT and the cringeworthy cheesiness that has sometimes destroyed the character I love in the novels. That, IMO, has only happened once or twice in the franchise. Not gonna name films, it´s all a matter of opinion in the end.
I looked at other translation, alas with one word you have to be really bilingual to be sure. The Greek Εkλεισε sounds also more like "case closed" but I'm not sure at all. The Italian "Fine", I feel the same, but not sure at all too. Etc.
First impressions were not great, maybe I was expecting a little more, there was a lot of build up and relish to this, maybe one or two expectations were not met, and you can never read too much into an upcoming release on the basis of a minute or so of what to expect crammed into a few short sequences, there was a lot of flashes and glimpses of some decent action to come this later year but initial reactions were one of a slight disappointment, I realize the overall film will no doubt be a huge success so I think I will just wait until actual release in theaters and see it as a whole rather than just a few moments of flashes and bangs squeezed into a trailer thing, that way it will be much better, you can never judge a film by these kind of things, they offer a taste and that's about it, but there was promise there for sure, maybe I was just a little bit disappointed or it didn't quite meet expectations, in the minority for sure, but there's no sense in lying about it, the actual film as a whole should be spectacular though
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/skyfall/
xxx
Thanks Univex. Sounds like they get it too.