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Well, food for thought : in the message describing the alleged 4-minute trailer, there is no mention of the motorcycle chase on the roofs of Istanbul. That does not prove much, but one cannot help to think that if this alleged trailer was an invention of a fan that followed the production videos, why did he not mention that ? It was the piece of news for fans for a few days when it went out :)
For starters, the plot of both movies are vastly different, the character motivations and dynamics are again, vastly different, SF makes use of at least 4 different geographical locations, the caliber of actors are are significantly different. I don't need to remind you all of the talent involved in SF (Feinnes, Bardem etc...), whereas Neeson is the only draw in Taken 2 and most importantly, Turkey is only being used as a location for the PTS. Honestly, it's nothing to get bent out of shape over.
That sounds a bit 'Johnny English-ish.'
I didn't read it, so I didn't know that. I don't care to know more about the trailer unless I end up seeing it. Well, food for thought, right back at you: the description of the four-minute teaser was released BEFORE the trailer of 'Taken 2' was released. How would marketing for SF know about the trailer early on? Did they hear the word 'Istanbul' in the plot of 'Taken 2,' and request to see an early version of the trailer, just to decide how to market their trailer, because, God forbid, two locations pop up in trailers for films weeks apart? I doubt it.
The story is different this time.
Anyway, people won't think Bond copied Taken or that Taken copied Bond, if people just don't compare the two at all. They're entirely different.
Hahaha, I thought of that too. I need to watch that film again some time.
They know for quite a long time that Taken 2 had shot just weeks before them at the very same location. Look at my next post, it's quite spectacular, it's only a few meters away :) And I work from time to time for movie marketing (on the technical side - web development for digital marketing) and believe me, they're hysterical when anything can "confuse" the audience !
I find it to be pretty pathetic that the entirety of a film's marketing would be altered because of a single location in a film, and I seriously doubt much of the larger "audience" today will put those pieces together.
Well, I understand it's easy to find meaningless coincidence. For instance, here are two images from both trailers.
If I was truly trolling, I could write tons about it and make quite a few others like that (the train, the fireworks, the running between cars etc..). But this is meaningless (although kind of fun)
On the other hand, here are the exact locations (I think) of two actions scenes as we know from Taken 2 trailer (in red), and from some video on the set of Skyfall (in blue - but obviously in both movies the action will keep on jumping from some place to another in this zone with no real coherency). It's pretty sure that when the Skyfall team arrived there, they learnt in case they did not know it before that another action scene had been shot just there a few weeks before.
1) For the moment the larger audience has no clue Skyfall has something big happening in Istanbul. Taken 2 is a "Welcome to Istanbul" movie (a line in the trailer). In October 2012, I don't expect the Skyfall marketing to hit the same notes.
2) I've witnessed first hand marketing plans cancelled in the last weeks before the deadline just because "hey, it looks a bit the same as" something else most never heard of. It's totally irrationnal.
3) About the patronizing tone if it feels so, don't forget I don't master the English language, don't read too much in it.
So if Taken is the new Bourne, pretty soon we'll have annoying people who hate the modern Bond saying that Bond ripped off Taken. And then equally annoying people who think there's some kind of war between the 2 and that they're not allowed to like both, saying that Taken ripped off Bond.
Anyway lets stop talking about Taken now. At least in this thread. I hope they release a new trailer soon.
Why can't you just admit he has a point and be done with it? Do we all lose our Bond fan membership if we have a valid concern about something?
Anyone can see the similarities...it's just weird.
And, yeah, check out the new Bourne trailer, he - his replacement that is - has yet another motorbike chase and does a nifty move down a stair bannister.
With Bond's wife on the back of the bike no less! Haha
I must confess I had the same first reaction that Suivez_ce_parachute. But between Megaton and Mendes, the market in Istanbul won't be shoot in the same way. And it is pretty obvious the most impressive and memorable will be SkyFall and not this action movie written by Luc Besson.
And at least, please, when finding other "examples" to try to prove the issue is meaningless, do not use "examples" that are separated by several years. No one thinks that EON care about Clive Owen's "The International" shooting also there 4 years ago for the final chase.
Here we're talking about promotional material that will collide in October 2012. In Skyfall, something big is happening in Istanbul. In the meantime, another action movie, Taken 2, will heavily promote, before Skyfall, the fact that everything in it happens in Istanbul. Two actions scenes even happen at the very same location. Hence my bet they'll avoid promoting the Istanbul location (and focus on London/UK in the end I guess).
Welcome to Hollywood, where nearly everyone seems to copy everyone, and a majority of films these days tend to be prequels, sequels, reboots, or remakes. Rarely is something original, often is something copied.
Your opinion. Me and alot of others thought Taken 1 was a brilliant action film.
Yay, another guy who thinks that Bourne ripped off Bond. Just as bad as saying Bond ripped off Bourne.
It's lucky only the PTS is set in Istanbul.
Skyfall will outclass this rubbish in all departments.
That's just your opinion though. Me, and alot of other people, Taken was a brilliant, ejoyable, gritty action film and I'm looking forward to the sequel.
Can we please please stop comparing it to SF??? It's getting really tiring. And we have a Taken 2 thread.
I doubt anyone will actually think that, unless people keep comparing them.
Besides, isn't SF is only in Istanbul for the PTS?
the problem is that barely anyone, if anyone at all, has read the YOLT novel/know anything about it. so when you say 'amnesic Bond' they'll automaticly think 'Bourne rip-off'. the Damon/Bourne films have rendered impossible to use the YOLT plot for a very long time... until the Bourne trilogy is forgotten.
Bond fans and EON will have a hard time explaining to the general audience that 'amnesic Bond' predates 'amnesic Bourne'. So using this particular Fleming plot is total suicide if used in the next 20/25 years.
If Bourne Legacy is a hit financially, and criticly, than Bourne will be a big franchise for atleast another 8/10 years. They'll even try to cast a 3rd actor as the main role after Damon and Renner are too old.