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Rank the Main Villains

00Beast00Beast
edited June 2012 in Bond Movies Posts: 4,762
I don't believe we have a thread like this, so I guess I'll start one up! The title says it all, so start ranking!

1. Alec Trevelyan
2. Max Zorin
3. Franz Sanchez
4. Francisco Scaramanga
5. Dr. Julius No
6. Dr. Kananga/Mr. Big
7. Elliot Carver
8. Kamal Khan
9. Le Chiffre
10. Emilio Largo
11. Ernst Stavro Blofeld
12. Aristotle Kristatos
13. Rosa Klebb
14. Auric Goldfinger
15. Elektra King
16. General Georgi Koskov
17. Karl Stromberg
18. Brad Whitaker
19. General Orlov
20. Hugo Drax
21. Dominic Greene
22. Gustav Graves
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  • forgotmyusernameforgotmyusername
    Posts: 2,782
    Impressive.

    Sanchez has to be number 1, because he was so charming and had the best lines - loved him. Grant no .2

    I think King and Goldfinger should be next followed by Orlov.


    That's my top 5. I can't do 22.




  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    @forgotmyusername: It is extremely difficult, and it took me a few minutes of painstaking thought process! Hahaha. I agree about Sanchez being in the top five; he is easily the greatest thing about LTK along with Timothy.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited June 2012 Posts: 8,217
    1. Alec Trevelyan
    2. Scaramanga (Easily the best thing about TMWTGG)
    3. Blofeld as portrayed by Telly Savalas.
    4. Goldfinger
    5. Le Chiffre
    6. Franz Sanchez
    7. Dr. Julius No.
    8. Emilio Largo
    9. Elektra King
    10. Max Zorin
    11. Rosa Klebb
    12. Dr. Kananga/Mr.Big
    13. Karl Stromberg
    14. Elliot Carver
    15. Hugo Drax
    16. Aristotle Kristatos
    17. Kamal Khan
    18. Georgi Koskov
    19. Gustav Graves
    20. Dominic Greene
    21. General Orlov
    22. Brad Whitaker

  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    @CraigMooreOHMSS: Seems like our top ten is very similiar; I appluad you, sir! However, I am quite curious about the positions of Hugo Drax, Gustav Graves, and Brad Whitaker. The first two are much lower on my list and the last is higher on mine. Also, Kamal Khan at 17? Not criticizing in the least, just wondering!
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    Posts: 3,262
    001) Francisco Scaramanga
    002) Auric Goldfinger
    003) General Orlov
    004) Rosa Klebb
    005) Dr. No
    006) Franz Sanchez
    007) Ernst Stavro Blofeld #1(Donald Pleasance)
    008) Sir Hugo Drax
    009) Ernst Stavro Blofeld #2(Telly Savalas)
    0010) Prince Kamal Khan
    0011) Emilio Largo
    0012) 006
    0013) Le Chiffre
    0014) Ernst Stavro Blofeld #3(Charles Gray)
    0015) Elliot Carver
    0016) Elektra King
    0017) Karl Stromberg
    0018) Max Zorin
    0019) Dr. Kananga
    0020) Georgi Koskov
    0021) Sir Gustav Graves
    0022) Brad Whitaker
    0023) Dominic Greene
    0024) Ari Kristatos
    0025) Renard
  • wildboonjivewildboonjive
    Posts: 299
    This is certainly going to be an exercise... but let me try anyway:

    1. Franz Sanchez
    2. Dr. Julius No
    3. Francisco Scaramanga
    4. Max Zorin
    5. Ernst Stavro Blofeld
    6. Auric Goldfinger
    7. Alec Trevelyan
    8. Rosa Klebb
    9. Hugo Drax
    10. Emilio Largo
    11. Dr. Kananga/Mr. Big
    12. Elektra King
    13. Elliot Carver
    14. Karl Stromberg
    15. General Orlov
    16. Dominic Greene
    17. Aristotle Kristatos
    18. Gustav Graves
    19. Kamal Khan
    20. Le Chiffre
    21. Brad Whitaker
    22. Georgi Koskov
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    00Beast wrote:
    @CraigMooreOHMSS: Seems like our top ten is very similiar; I appluad you, sir! However, I am quite curious about the positions of Hugo Drax, Gustav Graves, and Brad Whitaker. The first two are much lower on my list and the last is higher on mine. Also, Kamal Khan at 17? Not criticizing in the least, just wondering!

    Well. The one thing I will say about Graves is that while he was a totally ridiculous character and was too campy, he entertained me enough not to be the worst Bond villain. Drax deserved to be in a better film, he had some genuinely good moments and lines. Whitaker always annoyed me, but even apart from that, he didn't really have enough screentime to make an impact.

    Kamal Khan never really did it for me. He was sneaky and a bit of a creep alright, but I personally don't find him very memorable. He only had one or two good lines. He just didn't really do it for me :)

  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    @CraigMooreOHMSS: Seems like our top ten is very similiar; I appluad you, sir! However, I am quite curious about the positions of Hugo Drax, Gustav Graves, and Brad Whitaker. The first two are much lower on my list and the last is higher on mine. Also, Kamal Khan at 17? Not criticizing in the least, just wondering!

    Well. The one thing I will say about Graves is that while he was a totally ridiculous character and was too campy, he entertained me enough not to be the worst Bond villain. Drax deserved to be in a better film, he had some genuinely good moments and lines. Whitaker always annoyed me, but even apart from that, he didn't really have enough screentime to make an impact.

    Kamal Khan never really did it for me. He was sneaky and a bit of a creep alright, but I personally don't find him very memorable. He only had one or two good lines. He just didn't really do it for me :)

    All right, all right, I can dig that! Haha. I always liked Kamal Khan; it was Orlov that never did it for me. He was much too over the top and didn't have barely any interaction with 007 to matter that much. He also annoys me greatly in that Soviet Union meeting scene.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
    edited June 2012 Posts: 2,341
    I cannot rank all 22 I can only do the top (one or two) and the bottom (one or two)
    Top
    Auric Goldfinger--he really set the standard for Bond villians.
    Ernst Stavro Blofelf from OHMSS

    Bottom Feeders:
    Georgie Koskov was to much of a bon vivant and likable. Not traits I want in Bond villians.
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld from DAF way too charming to be evil and he seemed kinda "sissy"
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    edited June 2012 Posts: 2,629
    I recall this being on the original board, but maybe not here.

    Anyways (main villians per film):

    1. Sanchez
    2. Blofeld (Savalas)
    3. Scaramanga
    4. Dr No
    5. Trevelyan
    6. Zorin
    7. Drax
    8. Le Chiffre
    9. Klebb
    10. Khan
    11. King
    12. Goldfinger
    13. Largo
    14. Kristatos
    15. Kananga
    16. Blofeld (Pleasance)
    17. Carver
    18. Whitaker
    19. Greene
    20. Stromberg
    21. Blofeld (Gray)
    22. Graves
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,217
    00Beast wrote:
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    @CraigMooreOHMSS: Seems like our top ten is very similiar; I appluad you, sir! However, I am quite curious about the positions of Hugo Drax, Gustav Graves, and Brad Whitaker. The first two are much lower on my list and the last is higher on mine. Also, Kamal Khan at 17? Not criticizing in the least, just wondering!

    Well. The one thing I will say about Graves is that while he was a totally ridiculous character and was too campy, he entertained me enough not to be the worst Bond villain. Drax deserved to be in a better film, he had some genuinely good moments and lines. Whitaker always annoyed me, but even apart from that, he didn't really have enough screentime to make an impact.

    Kamal Khan never really did it for me. He was sneaky and a bit of a creep alright, but I personally don't find him very memorable. He only had one or two good lines. He just didn't really do it for me :)

    All right, all right, I can dig that! Haha. I always liked Kamal Khan; it was Orlov that never did it for me. He was much too over the top and didn't have barely any interaction with 007 to matter that much. He also annoys me greatly in that Soviet Union meeting scene.

    Octopussy was a film that really didn't have one lead villain for me. Nobody stands out very much. It's the first Moore entry that feels like Bond is taking on a 'evil syndicat' rather than one bad guy. I always liked it, and it works rather well, but there's actually so many villains in it when you think about it, and none of them really elevate themselves above the others.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    This all sounds vaguely familiar and I wouldn't even know how (it could be tricky) to put an order of Top 20 + main bad guys, do I have a favorite one even who was that overly bad than anyone below them?

    I'll have a go, but this is only a brief outlining, I'd probably re-order by Tuesday next week

    #1 Francisco Scaramanga
    #2 Dr Julius No
    #3 Mr Big (Doctor Kananga)
    #4 Franz Sanchez
    #5 Kamal Khan
    #6 who was main villain in FRWL, can I say Donald Grant, I thought Shaw did a fine job
    #7 Hugo Drax
    #8 Blofeld 1969 (Telly Savalas)
    #9 Largo (Thunderball)
    #10 Blofeld 1967 (Donald Pleasance)
    #11 Alec Trevelyan
    #12 Stromberg
    #13 Max Zorin
    #14 Goldfinger
    #15 Blofeld 1971 (Charles Gray)
    #16 Brad Whitaker
    #17 Gustav Graves
    #18 Aris Kristatos
    #19 LeChiffre
    #20 Renard

    I'm content enough with that
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote:
    00Beast wrote:
    @CraigMooreOHMSS: Seems like our top ten is very similiar; I appluad you, sir! However, I am quite curious about the positions of Hugo Drax, Gustav Graves, and Brad Whitaker. The first two are much lower on my list and the last is higher on mine. Also, Kamal Khan at 17? Not criticizing in the least, just wondering!

    Well. The one thing I will say about Graves is that while he was a totally ridiculous character and was too campy, he entertained me enough not to be the worst Bond villain. Drax deserved to be in a better film, he had some genuinely good moments and lines. Whitaker always annoyed me, but even apart from that, he didn't really have enough screentime to make an impact.

    Kamal Khan never really did it for me. He was sneaky and a bit of a creep alright, but I personally don't find him very memorable. He only had one or two good lines. He just didn't really do it for me :)

    All right, all right, I can dig that! Haha. I always liked Kamal Khan; it was Orlov that never did it for me. He was much too over the top and didn't have barely any interaction with 007 to matter that much. He also annoys me greatly in that Soviet Union meeting scene.

    Octopussy was a film that really didn't have one lead villain for me. Nobody stands out very much. It's the first Moore entry that feels like Bond is taking on a 'evil syndicat' rather than one bad guy. I always liked it, and it works rather well, but there's actually so many villains in it when you think about it, and none of them really elevate themselves above the others.

    Yeah, I know what you're saying. That tends to happen in the the Bond movies with more than one main villain, like FRWL, OP, TLD, and TWINE. It is hard to determine which is the actual leader; only for FRWL and TWINE could I determine which is the leader. In these cases, Rosa Klebb and Elektra King are who I consider the main villain. For OP and TLD, it's a draw, I could never figure it out!
  • Whitaker1987Whitaker1987
    edited June 2012 Posts: 172
    1. Whitaker
    2. Blofeld YOLT
    3 Red Grant
    4. Largo
    5. Hugo Drax
    6. Dr No
    7. Kamal Khan
    8. Scaramanga
    9. Goldfinger
    10. Le Chiffre
    11. Klebb
    12. Zorin
    11. Renard
    12. Blofeld OHMSS
    13. Sanchez
    14. Kananga
    15. Kristatos
    16. Carve
    17. Graves
    18. Trevelyan
    19. Orlov
    20. King
    21 Medrano
    22 Greene
    23 Koskov
  • sirseanisbondsirseanisbond
    Posts: 2,189
    1. Blofeld
    2. Goldfinger
    3. Scaramanga
    4. Dr. No
    5. Largo
    6. Red Grant
    7. Sanchez
    8. Kananga
    9. Jaws
    10. Odd Job
    11. Le Chiffre
    12. King
    13. Onatopp
    14. Trevelyan
    15. Stromberg
    16. Kristatos
    17. Klebb
    18. Khan
    19. Drax
    20. Zorin
    21. Renard
    22. Graves
    23. Carver
    24. Greene
    25. Whitaker
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited September 2013 Posts: 12,837
    Not sure about all of them but my top 10

    1. Sanchez
    2. Blofeld
    3. Trevelayn
    4. Goldfinger
    5. Stromberg
    6. Scaramanga
    8. Largo
    9. Elektra
    10. Zorin
  • licensetoforumlicensetoforum
    Posts: 371
    I'll just do my top ten for now.
    1. Red Grant- He may be more of a henchman, but Robert Shaw is amazing in the movie. I think it is the best time where a villian was Bond's absoluete equal (maybe even better than Bond.)
    2. Scaramanga- Chirstopher Lee shows why he is beloved by many. He makes the climax so much more interesting with his propsal to Bond beforehand.
    3. Sanchez- Good to see a villian who is consumed by something more than power, in this case loyalty.
    4. Blofeld, mainly because of Telly Slavas- I think OHMSS perfected Blofeld. I just love how Bond acts exactly what Blofeld's plan is, and he calmly states how that will remain his business.
    5. Hugo Drax- Not sure why.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    @licensetoforum: I've always found Hugo Drax to be a horribly boring main villain. Sure, I know that Michael Lonsdale might have been shooting for a more low-key performance, rather than hamming it up like Gray's Blofeld or Frobe's Goldfinger, but he really doesn't seem threatening in the least. That's one of my qualms about Moonraker; Drax just simply doesn't cut it with me.
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    Posts: 2,629
    licensetoforum wrote:
    I'll just do my top ten for now.
    1. Red Grant- He may be more of a henchman, but Robert Shaw is amazing in the movie. I think it is the best time where a villian was Bond's absoluete equal (maybe even better than Bond.)
    2. Scaramanga- Chirstopher Lee shows why he is beloved by many. He makes the climax so much more interesting with his propsal to Bond beforehand.
    3. Sanchez- Good to see a villian who is consumed by something more than power, in this case loyalty.
    4. Blofeld, mainly because of Telly Slavas- I think OHMSS perfected Blofeld. I just love how Bond acts exactly what Blofeld's plan is, and he calmly states how that will remain his business.
    5. Hugo Drax- Not sure why.

    Love your 6-10 rankings.

    :D
  • licensetoforumlicensetoforum
    Posts: 371
    Man oh man Kerim I must be having an off day.
  • commandbond007commandbond007
    Posts: 660
    1. Red Grant
    2. LeChiffe
    3. Dr.No
    4. Largo
    5. Goldfinger
    6.Trevelyan
    7. Rose klebb
    8. Dominic Greene

    The rest of the villain are weak/lame
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    LeChiffre #2 ?!, and Greene #8 ?!, (out of a list of 20 + best main villains)

    I was just surprised above all else, I should elaborate, that I found LeChiffre something between invisible and non existent, his main distinguishing characteristic perhaps was a weeping blood clot, he hardly ever raised his voice, and had a minor tantrum at the casino tables when Bond ordered a fancy drink

    I think what it is, was the genitals sequence on the boat that people remember, but I was looking away kind of embarrassed rather than feel threatened or intimidated by the LeChiffre character, think he was one of the worst Bond adversaries ever, but to each their own, I was just a bit bemused maybe
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,423
    1. Max Zorin
    2. Franz Sanchez
    3. Dr No
    4. Le Chiffre
    5. Francisco Scaramanga
    6. Blowers (Telly)
    7. Rosa Klebb
    8. Auric Goldfinger
    9. Hugo Drax
    10. Alex Trevelyan

    I think that is mine.......
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    commandbond007 wrote:
    1. Red Grant
    2. LeChiffe
    3. Dr.No
    4. Largo
    5. Goldfinger
    6.Trevelyan
    7. Rose klebb
    8. Dominic Greene

    The rest of the villain are weak/lame

    Really? You don't like Dr. Kananga, Francisco Scaramanga, Franz Sanchez, or Ernst Stavro Blofeld? I could see all of the others, but not even these four?
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    commandbond007 wrote:
    1. Red Grant
    2. LeChiffe
    3. Dr.No
    4. Largo
    5. Goldfinger
    6.Trevelyan
    7. Rose klebb
    8. Dominic Greene

    The rest of the villain are weak/lame

    The rest of the villains are weak/lame? And you included f*cking Greene??? What about Sanchez, no villain has ever been as threatening. Or Blofeld, thanks to him Bonds wife was killed! There's also Scaramanga, Drax, Zorin, I could go on.
  • SharkySharky
    Posts: 266
    I found this quite difficult, i didn't think i would but i have, anyway here goes:

    1. Franz Sanchez
    2. Francisco Scaramanga
    3. Auric Goldfinger
    4. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT)
    5. Red Grant
    6. Max Zorin
    7. Dr No
    8. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (OHMSS)
    9. Le Chiffre
    10. Emilio Largo
    11. Alec Trevalyn
    12. Aris Kristatos
    13. Elektra King
    14. Hugo Drax
    15. Dr Kananga/Mr Big
    16. Ernst Stravo Blofeld (DAF)
    17. Karl Stromberg
    18. Kamal Khan
    19. General Koskov
    20. Elliott Carver
    21. Brad Whitaker
    22. Dominic Greene
    23. Gustav Graves
  • JBFan626JBFan626
    Posts: 1,497
    1. Dr. No
    2. Blofeld (Anthony Dawson Version) FRWL/TB
    3. Red Grant
    4. Scaramanga
    5. Blofeld (Telly Savalas Version) OHMSS
  • thelionthelion
    edited November 2012 Posts: 72
    1. Zorin
    2. Silva
    3. Scramanga
    4. Sanchez
    5. Trevelyan
    6. Blofeld ( Savalas)
    7. Dr. No
    8. Le Chiffre
    9. Goldfinger
    10. Blofeld ( Pleascence)

    I don't include Red Grant because he is a henchman, but that doesn't mean that isn't great.
  • JohnBarryFanJohnBarryFan
    Posts: 1,405

    The Real Good Ones

    1-Franz Sanchez
    2-Ernst Stavro Blofeld (I'm thinking more of Savalas)
    3-Max Zorin
    4-Silva
    5-Hugo Drax
    6-Le Chiffre
    7-Auric Goldfinger
    8-Dr No
    9-General Orlov
    10-Alec Trevelyan

    The good ones

    11-Emilio Largo
    12-Elektra King
    13-Aristotle Kristatos
    14-Francisco Scaramanga
    15-Kamal Khan
    16-Rosa Klebb
    17-Elliot Carver
    18-Dr. Kananga/Mr.Big
    19-Dominic Greene
    20-Georgi Koskov

    The Lame Ones

    21-Brad Whitaker
    22-Gustav Graves
    23-Karl Stromberg

  • JBFan626JBFan626
    Posts: 1,497
    I think the villains have gotten progressively worse since '74. Drax was the last great villain, and even he was a bit watered down version of what came before.
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