The ROGER MOORE Appreciation thread - Discuss His Life, His Career, His Bond Films

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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    What better way to start?
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Welcome, @Zorin91! :-h
    What better way to start?
    Craig is NOT Bond!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    QBranch wrote: »
    Welcome, @Zorin91! :-h
    What better way to start?
    Craig is NOT Bond!

    Oh yes, I remember him, but forgot his name.
  • edited July 2018 Posts: 11,189
    Saw this amazing image earlier today (they are still cropping up).

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    If Roger could see this he’d make some quip about Trump being welcome to her or “rather him than me”
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    BAIN123 wrote: »
    Saw this amazing image earlier today (they are still cropping up).

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    If Roger could see this he’d make some quip about Trump being welcome to her or “rather him than me”

    I'll never be able to unsee that...
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  • Zorin91Zorin91 Stavanger, Norway
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    Just wanna talk a little about Moores performance in AVTAK. Many people see this movie as a complete trainwreck, much because of Moores age during filming. I find however, that it doesn't bother me too much although, I can see the argument.

    As my profile name suggests, I'm a huge fan of Max Zorin, my absolute favourite villain in the series. This is not just because of Walken, but I find the chemistry between him and Moore to be quite great. As Moore has said himself, he feels Zorin was a bit too much on the violent side for his Bond. I feel that this shines through in a nice way. AVTAK-Bond really hates Zorin, and their exchanges in the movie are very hostile, maybe the most hostile Bond/villain-relationship throughout the series. For me this makes a very interesting dynamic and great entertainment as well.

    The way a rather serious Moore plays these scenes, knowing that the actor himself found Zorin obnoxious is definetely one of the key reasons for me to greatly enjoy a film that obviously has a lot of faults. It's also another example of Moore blending more serious Bond moments into his highly adventurous Bond tenure
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    Trump makes Sir Roger in AVTAK look like a stud
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    That relationship may be the highlight of AVTAK and that's the overall problem with it is that the tone is all over the place. You have the high jinks of iceberg subs, driving half a car through Paris, homeless people dropping their alcohol bottles and knocking the tops off campers while being chased by San Francisco Keystone Cops contrasting with agents being shoved into rotor blades, strangled by May Day and contractors being mowed down in a hail of bullets by Zorin and Scarpine in cold blood.

    There's something missing about Moore's portrayal of Bond in AVTAK that was at its peak in OP. The charm was there but it seemed overshadowed. It didn't help having scenes like baking quiche and falling asleep in a rocking chair. I can't imagine any of the other Bonds doing that scene. But that's another strength of OP is having a leading lady closer to Moore's age and the humor balances better with the more serious scenes.

  • Zorin91Zorin91 Stavanger, Norway
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    I guess it's all a matter of how much it bothers each viewer. While I agree the tone is all over the place, it doesn't really grind my gears as much. I find the end result very entertaining anyway. (Not to say AVTAK is a top of the line Bond movie for me. It probably ranges around the middle pack.)

    To me the biggest problem in AVTAK is some rather lacklustre action scenes. The fights in Zorins stables and in Stacies villa are well below par.

    I agree with you totally that Moores performance in OP is great. I find the PTS to be one of the best, and the backgammon scene is one of my favourite early confrontations between Bond and villain. He oozez charm in those scenes, and you can tell he's having a absolute thrill being Bond.
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    Zorin91 wrote: »
    Just wanna talk a little about Moores performance in AVTAK. Many people see this movie as a complete trainwreck, much because of Moores age during filming. I find however, that it doesn't bother me too much although, I can see the argument.

    As my profile name suggests, I'm a huge fan of Max Zorin, my absolute favourite villain in the series. This is not just because of Walken, but I find the chemistry between him and Moore to be quite great. As Moore has said himself, he feels Zorin was a bit too much on the violent side for his Bond. I feel that this shines through in a nice way. AVTAK-Bond really hates Zorin, and their exchanges in the movie are very hostile, maybe the most hostile Bond/villain-relationship throughout the series. For me this makes a very interesting dynamic and great entertainment as well.

    The way a rather serious Moore plays these scenes, knowing that the actor himself found Zorin obnoxious is definetely one of the key reasons for me to greatly enjoy a film that obviously has a lot of faults. It's also another example of Moore blending more serious Bond moments into his highly adventurous Bond tenure

    Completely agree, their interactions are the highlight of the film. I love the excited little laugh Zorin does when he finds out who Bond really is. And when Bond busts out the whole 00 whoever will replace me routine and Zorin says "I'd imagine they'd rather try to cover up your embarassing incompetence" (don't know if that's the exact quote). One of the best villains and works really well with Moore.

    Moore was always great at interacting with the bad guys though. Great at winding them up in the social/undercover gentlemanly situations, but equally great at being disgusted by them when things got serious and the stakes had been raised. The scene where he confronts Orlov on the train in OP is one of the best of the series because of this. He's really pissed off at the thought of the bomb going off and when Moore is pissed off, or scared, or really anything but his usual unfappable self, you know things are serious. He was a much better actor than even himself gave him credit for.
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    Yes. I've always thought the same thing. More so than when, say, Dalton or Craig try to be lighter and more humorous it's Moore effective when Rog is in serious mode.

    Back to AVTAK, when the UE DVDs came out, I once forwarded to just the scenes Walken was in, mystifying my father in law and I had to explain he was the highlight of the film.
  • Zorin91Zorin91 Stavanger, Norway
    edited July 2018 Posts: 10

    Completely agree, their interactions are the highlight of the film. I love the excited little laugh Zorin does when he finds out who Bond really is. And when Bond busts out the whole 00 whoever will replace me routine and Zorin says "I'd imagine they'd rather try to cover up your embarassing incompetence" (don't know if that's the exact quote). One of the best villains and works really well with Moore.

    Moore was always great at interacting with the bad guys though. Great at winding them up in the social/undercover gentlemanly situations, but equally great at being disgusted by them when things got serious and the stakes had been raised. The scene where he confronts Orlov on the train in OP is one of the best of the series because of this. He's really pissed off at the thought of the bomb going off and when Moore is pissed off, or scared, or really anything but his usual unfappable self, you know things are serious. He was a much better actor than even himself gave him credit for.[/quote]

    Agree 100 %. Need to mention the "Happiest in the saddle"-comment ;D always quote that when playing Risk, after I lose my cannons ;D and Rog answers with the fly casting comment :D pure class :) Though i don't remember Rog and Orlov's interactions as much, I do love Steven Berkoffs overplaying of his character. It's so in tune with the Bond era he's in, I can't help but love him to death. Wouldn't have worked in films like FRWL or CR at all, but for his time he was amazing together with the great Roger Moore :)
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    First trailer/promo for the HBO film on Hervé Villechaize, which will feature scenes about TMWTGG:

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Looks great. Dinklage is one of the best actors around. I don t have HBO, so who knows if I will get a chance to see it.
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    Looks great. Dinklage is one of the best actors around. I don t have HBO, so who knows if I will get a chance to see it.

    HBO Nordic (the streaming service) might get it.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Looks great. Dinklage is one of the best actors around. I don t have HBO, so who knows if I will get a chance to see it.

    HBO Nordic (the streaming service) might get it.

    I don t have that, either.
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    Looks great. Dinklage is one of the best actors around. I don t have HBO, so who knows if I will get a chance to see it.

    HBO Nordic (the streaming service) might get it.

    I don t have that, either.

    They have a free trial, don't they? If so, keep an eye on when/if the series gets a release on HBO Nordic, and watch it during the trial period. :-)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489

    Looks great. Dinklage is one of the best actors around. I don t have HBO, so who knows if I will get a chance to see it.

    HBO Nordic (the streaming service) might get it.

    I don t have that, either.

    They have a free trial, don't they? If so, keep an eye on when/if the series gets a release on HBO Nordic, and watch it during the trial period. :-)

    TV signals are out of my reach. Mostly glad about it. It s like quitting smoking.
  • Posts: 17,756

    Looks great. Dinklage is one of the best actors around. I don t have HBO, so who knows if I will get a chance to see it.

    HBO Nordic (the streaming service) might get it.

    I don t have that, either.

    They have a free trial, don't they? If so, keep an eye on when/if the series gets a release on HBO Nordic, and watch it during the trial period. :-)

    TV signals are out of my reach. Mostly glad about it. It s like quitting smoking.

    Don't need TV to watch HBO Nordic; you can watch it on your computer/tablet, etc. just like Netflix!
  • edited October 2018 Posts: 2,917
    Some good news: Roger's 1974 film Gold has been released on Blu-Ray by Kino Lorber, and is currently on sale for $8.99! [Edit: this is less of a deal than I thought, since Kino charges $8 shipping, but it works out if you're buying multiple discs.]

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    Gold is one of Roger's best non-Bond films and features several Bond alumni: Peter Hunt provides the excellent and gritty direction, John Glen does the editing, and Maurice Binder handles the title sequence. If that's not enough the score is by Elmer Bernstein and the cast includes Ray Milland and John Gielgud. The film is long and occasionally meandering, but it has a wrenching nail-biter of a climax, several shocking moments of violence, a very fine performance from Moore, and even a subtly rendered gay love story (perhaps smuggled in by Hunt, who was also gay).

    The Blu-Ray is short on extras but comes with a commentary track. Kino Lorber is also offering another of Roger's films, The Naked Face, on sale for $7.99. I'll pass on that one, but I will definitely purchase Gold, which belongs in every Moore fan's collection, along with Shout at the Devil (also directed by Peter Hunt).
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Revelator wrote: »
    Some good news: Roger's 1974 film Gold has been released on Blu-Ray by Kino Lorber, and is currently on sale for $8.99! [Edit: this is less of a deal than I thought, since Kino charges $8 shipping, but it works out if you're buying multiple discs.]

    81Zkgc159gL._SL1500_.jpg

    Gold is one of Roger's best non-Bond films and features several Bond alumni: Peter Hunt provides the excellent and gritty direction, John Glen does the editing, and Maurice Binder handles the title sequence. If that's not enough the score is by Elmer Bernstein and the cast includes Ray Milland and John Gielgud. The film is long and occasionally meandering, but it has a wrenching nail-biter of a climax, several shocking moments of violence, a very fine performance from Moore, and even a subtly rendered gay love story (perhaps smuggled in by Hunt, who was also gay).

    The Blu-Ray is short on extras but comes with a commentary track. Kino Lorber is also offering another of Roger's films, The Naked Face, on sale for $7.99. I'll pass on that one, but I will definitely purchase Gold, which belongs in every Moore fan's collection, along with Shout at the Devil (also directed by Peter Hunt).
    I actually purchased the UK Blu Ray when it was released a couple of years ago, because it is region free. The quality is excellent for a 1970's film, and it's apparent that they did some work on the print.

    I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment that this is one of Roger's best non-Bond films. It's got a great belting title track sung by Jimmy Helms (with lyrics by Don Black) and a memorable Elmer Bernstein score in addition to the positive attributes you mentioned above. You can't go wrong with greats like Milland and Gielgud, and York is always watchable.

    The climax is indeed really quite superb. I've always believed that it partially inspired the mine sequence in AVTAK.

    There's also a blink and you'll miss it moment featuring a young Patsy Kensit.

    I'm due a rewatch.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    1974 was a golden year for Moore.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    1974 was a golden year for Moore.
    I see what you did there. Very good.
  • edited December 2018 Posts: 2,917
    Things I never knew existed:

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    More information here.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Revelator wrote: »
    Things I never knew existed:

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    More information here.

    I had forgotten about those. I read one or two when they came out.
  • 00Agent00Agent Any man who drinks Dom Perignon '52 can't be all bad.
    edited December 2018 Posts: 5,185
    This was just shared on Rogers Twitter, i love it
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Last time we had a Bond elimination game, Moore finished third. At present, he is leading the current one.
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    @00Agent, that commercial was well done! Good for Roger.

    I've recently been watching The Saint a lot on TV. As an American I can't remember seeing it before while growing up, as I imagine you in Great Britain might've. Lots of great episodes, Roger's in fine form, good suspense, lovely women, great fight scenes. And fun to see other Bond alumni star in the episodes too--just yesterday it was Geoffrey Keen, and I've also seen Julian Glover, Edward de Souza (Sheikh Hosein), and James Villiers (Tanner in FYEO).

    I also read an article yesterday about his life with his wives, and how he had some trouble from them, but it seems he nevertheless kept an "even keel" in his life. Just about time for me to watch TSWLM or FYEO.
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