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Die Another Day. Two films in one?
One good movie and one ridiculous movie, that is.
How recently have you all watched this movie? I hadn't seen it since theatres and finally just watched it this week with my girlfriend (who hasn't seen it at all)
With the film fresh in my mind, here are my thoughts:
The movie is SOLID riiiiiight up until the transition from Bond and M at the abandoned Cross station to Bond in his MI6 office (virtual reality scene). From then on the movie is just TERRIBLE- it's actually hard to know what could have happened to make a film do such a 180 on us!
What a missed opportunity.... this was an 'anniversary film' (and while we didn't know it at the time, the LAST 'official' entry of the series) filled with little homages to the old films. In the beginning of the film, I LOVED that they were trying new things (Bond captured for a LONG time, Brosnan's first time going rogue, etc)
Having just watched it, I'll admit the movie isn't as bad as I remember....I even kind of liked the title song (better than Another Way to Die....) I might actually like this movie a bit more than TWINE now, though that's not saying much.
Extra tidbit that got me thinking:
the part near the very end when Moneypenny and Bond finally 'hook up', my girlfriend was extremely disappointed that it was just a virtual reality gag. She's not a Bond nut like me and isn't as familiar with the history, but she thought it would have been better if they HAD ended up together. I thought about it and- being the 'anniversary movie' that it is, I agreed it might have made more sense! Sort of like 'FINALLY after 40 years of teasing', lol
What are your thoughts?
How recently have you all watched this movie? I hadn't seen it since theatres and finally just watched it this week with my girlfriend (who hasn't seen it at all)
With the film fresh in my mind, here are my thoughts:
The movie is SOLID riiiiiight up until the transition from Bond and M at the abandoned Cross station to Bond in his MI6 office (virtual reality scene). From then on the movie is just TERRIBLE- it's actually hard to know what could have happened to make a film do such a 180 on us!
What a missed opportunity.... this was an 'anniversary film' (and while we didn't know it at the time, the LAST 'official' entry of the series) filled with little homages to the old films. In the beginning of the film, I LOVED that they were trying new things (Bond captured for a LONG time, Brosnan's first time going rogue, etc)
Having just watched it, I'll admit the movie isn't as bad as I remember....I even kind of liked the title song (better than Another Way to Die....) I might actually like this movie a bit more than TWINE now, though that's not saying much.
Extra tidbit that got me thinking:
the part near the very end when Moneypenny and Bond finally 'hook up', my girlfriend was extremely disappointed that it was just a virtual reality gag. She's not a Bond nut like me and isn't as familiar with the history, but she thought it would have been better if they HAD ended up together. I thought about it and- being the 'anniversary movie' that it is, I agreed it might have made more sense! Sort of like 'FINALLY after 40 years of teasing', lol
What are your thoughts?
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"We agree DAD is a film of two halves. The first we thought was great - but still veering close to comic book-like. In the second half the comic book took over. Could you have done the same story in a different way? Who knows? It was certainly (again) different to the one we shot in our heads. But it was extremely successful and liked by a lot of people (perhaps not the hard core Bond fans). We wanted to make a YOLT-type story but even we were surprised how 'big' it became."
first half a hour is good and it was promising but then it failed.altough by the time it will end it improves a little still first half hour is much more better than the rest of the movie.about the end and Moneypeny ending with Bond in virtual reality or whatever it was i think that they were trying to do something like preparing for 21st century when all will be smart.like stealth cars,mask for virtual reality and so on.i think we see this by the end of TWINE when Q (or it is R? i really didnt understand this after Desmond retired as Q) is saying that there is early form of milenium bug
Care to clarify that, as im pretty convinced they've made a few more since.
Absolutely, which I find very interesting.
I mean, look at AVTAK for example. The first half is about horse racing in Europe and Sir Godfrey, the second about flooding Silicon Valley and trying to stop Zorin with the help of the CIA and to some extent the KG-used to-B.
What about TLD? First it's all about Koskov's defection near the Sovjet border; then we enter an arms deal situation in Afghanistan.
Not to mention CR, a film that spends its first half vesperless, in the Bahamas and Miami, only to suddenly go 'classic' in Montenegro with arguably the strongest Bond girl ever at Bond's side.
I think you make some good points there @DarthDimi. I think those all feel natural though in the context of those films - it's just the plotting taking us further into the story, a bit like the arc they always used in 24 where there would be a threat which played itself out in maybe the first 4-6 episodes and then a bigger threat would emerge - a bit like Season 5 where the terrorists take hostages and Jack sees in CCTV footage after that one of the terrorists passes something to one of the hostages which then sets up the next arc of the story. The difference for me with DAD is that is tonally feels like two different films - it starts off wanting to be a serious gritty Bond and then, whilst it is a narrative arc that takes us there, it goes into being a different type of Bond film. I feel that there is always this pendulum swing in the Bond series between the serious and gritty and the camp, silly and humorous. DAD just did it all in one film.