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No, appreciation is good enough, and see it's been extended to all the James Bond actors in recent days. Never really went for the 'Daltonites' label, despite Tim being a favorite Bond. Agree with the top of the page also, as in while both Dalton and Craig provided viewers with a darker Bond than all others, Dalton evaluated situations before making a move, while Craig maybe jumped in and appeared a little too eager to get things done
I do see your point. I was just trying to link the six actors up with similar ongoing threads. And as this one was a healthy existing thread I thought it a good place to start. We will see how it goes :-)
Certainly I don't want to drive the Daltonites underground ;-)
We have been a persecuted minority for too long - but the love that dare not speak its name seems to be catching these days. Is there anyone left, apart from GL, of course, who still doesn't love the Daltonator?
That's still better than watching someone learning to act, or not really bothering to act at all, a la Brosnan!
The only time I don't think Brosnan really bothered to act was in the Jinx meeting scene when you could see he was thinking "sod this...I'm going to have some fun".
Any way, glad to hear that you're gradually warming to the Daltonator. May be with time you'll come to appreciate his true genius! ;)
I know Dalton has gone on record as saying that LTK was "too grim" but I think his third film - had it happened - would have retained the idea of a more ruthless Bond albeit in a slightly less brutal way. That was what Dalton wanted when he started after all.
If you go to wikipedia it says he was born either 1944 or 1946. Anyone knows which is the real year he was born?
Happy one dude.
Credited with saving 007 from the self-parody of the Roger Moore years, he took the decision to quit after the preproduction of his third Bond film was halted for five years by litigation. 'I only wanted to do one Bond movie in the first place, but they insisted that I sign for three. By the time the lawsuit was resolved, I'd been Bond for nine years. They asked if I'd stay and do another.
'Part of me, having done two which had good and bad things about them, wanted to do a third to see if I could do one that brought everything together. But they wanted me to sign for more than one so I said, "No". I knew I'd made the right decision, but there was this little feeling of territoriality, until I was driving one day in Los Angeles.
http://www.timothy-dalton.com/2013/07/great-interview-from-dalton-in-british.html
Would be interesting to have EON's side of the story.
He could've easily carried on as Bond until the late 90s and made millions, but he wanted to move on and do something new. Fair play to him, but I really wish he'd done at least one more.
That interviews a bit iffy though. He was Bond for nine years? He became Bond in 1986, after Roger left, and it was 1994 when the legal stuff was sorted and he stepped down, so that'd be 8 years. And he didn't drive an Aston Martin? What about in TLD?
I wish he'd had better career advice! He turned down Bond to do what exactly? He's barely worked since. And what he has done has been mainly garbage.
I sometimes think he comes across as deluded.
Great Bond, but slightly odd character.
What is he doing sitting there in LA, a city he doesn't seem to have any obvious affection for. It just doesn't suit him, while he craves to work more in the UK. He's unmarried, discovered the joys of fatherhood late, but (as far as I can tell) has never lived with his son. It all sounds a bit sad.
He should have matured into one of the great elder statesmen of stage and screen - a Patrick Stewart or Ian Mckellen, but instead he seems to mope around not doing very much. You get the sense that he only very belatedly realised what a good thing he was onto with Bond - you don't feel he ever really enjoyed it - 'being Bond'. Which is a shame.
I think DC started off the same way - slightly wary of the stardom - but has grown into it and clearly enjoys the role and the kudos and opportunities it brings.
He's been in some good stuff since then (Hot Fuzz for example). Sure he's not had the success Sean and Pierce have had (Connery became one of the most successful actors ever and Brosnan's best work has been post Bond), but he's certainly done more than Moore and Lazenby did once they left.
He hasn't been in much since but he's hardly struggling is he. He's still a millionaire. Like I said, I think he just chooses work that interests him.
Sure he's rich, but he also seems bored/directionless.
He could have had the pick of great parts, but blew it.
I see his point but it would fly in the face of what Cubby Broccoli and co built in 1962 onwards. Bond is an institution and this idea may have cheapened its brand, but it would mean there would be plenty of experimental Bond movie one-offs. Maybe a version staring Daniel Day-Lewis or Leonardo Dicaprio directed by Martin Scorcese? A version starring Michael Fassbender directed by Quentin Tarantino? Maybe even Ralph Fiennes in a Wes Anderson Bond movie?
I think had Dalton committed in 1995 the producers and the studio would not have wanted a one-picture deal as they were attempting to rebuild the Bond brand. If the film was a hit and Dalton left the part they would have been left in a pickle. Not to different to the situation Doctor Who was in after Christoper Ecclestone left after one series. It made business sense for them to get whatever actor playing Bond in GE to make a long-term commitment.
We're basing this off interviews and his acting career though. We don't know what his private life is like. How do we know he's bored? For all we know he could be having the time of his life off camera.
I do agree that he could've gotten more/better work if he'd stayed on as Bond but I don't think he cares. He even says in that interview that looking back on his life, he wouldn't change anything.
If what he is saying is true - that EON wanted him to commit to at least another one after his third, then it scotches althouth anti-Dalton claims that he was given the push. And like you say, if he wouldn't commit to a fourth, it made sense for EON to recast, otherwise the work done on reestablishing the series after the long gap would have to start all over again with the next movie.
I like the idea of one off Bonds with different directors and actors. Would be very cool.
So why hasn't he been doing more stage work? What was he last in? The Golden Compass or something like that?
I don't know, I'm not a groupie.
If he did 5, and EON had Casino Royale to dangle in front of him, then I think he'd make a 6th, otherwise no.
That was Craig.
Tim was last seen in CHUCK, and an amazing performance it was!
I meant on the stage. I think he did the Dark Marerials trilogy at the NT a decade ago.