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Well, that explains why I don't like Dalton's Bond. It also confirms my belief that I wouldn't necessarily like Fleming's either.
So "whose" Bond do you like? Genuine question here.
I find Craig's Bond interesting but in terms of personality, I like Brosnan's a lot better.
Dalton I could get used to but it's like Craig--I liked the other versions better. However, I will say I liked Dalton a lot more in LTK than I did in TLD. He was insufferable for large parts that movie.
Then what are you doing here on an appreciation thread for Daltons Bond? :-?
You know you like him really ;)
Good article but I still think at times he could be quite theatrical about it - especially in LTK.
Sorry but I'm not convinced the "TAKE ME TO HIM" moment in the casino (I have a problem with that scene it seems!) was a reflection of how someone would actually talk in that situation - even if they were angry and "on the edge". It's too premiditated (I'm not going to let the Brozza off either who was also guilty of theatrics at times).
Craig's Bond wasn't as intense as Dalts in the opening sequence of CR and even then Dryden accused him of theatrics ;)
Although the piece rightly points out the Pushkin interriogation, which IMO is probably Dalton's best scene as Bond. Dalts did very well there.
And is the scene where it looks like Dalton is going to execute a kneeling John Rhys Davies THE tensest in ANY Bond movie???
I like Dalton in the opening of TLD but Craig is outstanding in the opening of CR.
IMHO they are both excellent PTS's but for completely different reasons. Stylistically they couldn't be more different.
TLDs PTS is like GF, it's sort of a little Bond film, it has all the classic Bond elements. We get a great gunbarrel, it's exciting, the fight on the truck is a great stunt, and then the bit at the end with the bikini babe is classic Bond.
The opening in CR did not blow me away like TLD. To me it felt like an action scene from another movie. Yes, the crane jumping was impressive, but even the SPWLM was better and more wow!
The best part of the opening in CR was actually the scene in the office where Craig is sitting in the corner quietly waiting for the man to come into his office.
CR is a fine movie, but a massive departure in terms of tone and style. Some love it and some just like it. It will never be my favourite Bond and I actually prefer Goldeneye by a wide margin. Brosnan was fantastic in that! The opening to Goldeneye I preferred a lot more. That dam jump was so out there!
As an overall performance, Dalton was brilliant in LTK. He shows how dominant Bond can be and how he takes no sh*t. The scene with Lupe shows to an extent Bond's mysoginy. He does not even ask her but tells her. And his body language is threatening. Bond is taking full advantage of the man's world and rules. And in that film, that is how Isthmus is referred to.
In LTK we are shown a wide range of emotions which Bond has and the books clearly show.He is not this perfect at all times character. That is Austin Powers!:)
What makes Dalton so great is that once he is in Tuxedo mode, he becomes an almost different person like when Batman puts on the Batsuit. Dalton's Bond is very psychological and you see his human flaws like you would in anyone.
The Bond I have no time for, is the one where he does not change despite what happens to him in the movie. I hope those days are behind us.
Dalton is a fine actor and invested a lot of effort in his films. Cubby was impressed and he was a man who knew Bond's creator Ian Fleming.
Yeeahhh it was :D Love how the stuntman gets his gun out as he's gliding downwards.
I do really like the LD PTS though - even if the final 30 seconds is highly unlikely. Then again so is the final minute of the GE PTS.
I'm not convinced and I'm not scared in that scene. I don't like the way he dramatically cuts infront of Lupe - it just doesn't feel right. Dalts was better and far more threatening in the "make a sound...and you're dead" sequence.
Goldeneye to me is a better Bond film than Casino. They got a nice balance between gritty and the fantastical. But there was some oustanding dialogue in that film like where R. And Brosnan plays the mean Bond when he has to be very well. I actually wish they kept him that way and not try to make him lighter in his later movies.
"lets get down to business"
"maybe its time you let me get on with my job"
Oh that is a great scene.Another example of the misogyny Fleming refers to in his novels. Not that it is a good thing, but that is who Bond is. He can be a nasty character.
I think in the casino scene, Bond's emotions are getting to him and it is in the subtext. He wants to badly meet Sanchez and is willing to do anything.
Hey, the scene before Bond goes in to Sanchez's office. His men are checking if he is armed and just look at Dalton's body language as well as the look he gives one of the henchmen. Here you see how much balls Bond has and too bad some miss those moments because they are vital to who this character is and why we admire him.
Brosnan signed his Bond contract death warrant with DAD. He made Roger Moore's ranking shoot up dramatically after that film. No joke, but LALD was my oxygen mask after the bad odour that was DAD.
DAD starts out dead serious with the torture scene and then it is all thrown away and becomes an Austin Powers meets XXX movie. Vin Diesel could have played in that film.
It is Eon's biggest failure and almost sunk the franchise. So much for those who thought Dalton would sink it.
Royale is more tightly directed than GE...and it looks better. I think it will probably age a bit better too.
Although I do love GE.
CR is over-hyped and Sony was desperate for it to succeed. The reboot was a half measure because they did not go all the way.They still clung to the F'ing past which was weak. Nolan did not when he did Batman. He was totally from scratch and it worked better. The Aston DB5 is a dumb addition and an Austin Powers moment in a dead serious film. Bond may as well have said : "Yeah Baby!":)
And Eva Green was underused. She is like a Diana Rigg and if she is the reason why Bond becomes who he is, then I wanted to see something that solidifies that for me. They become close after the fight with the two men on the stairs. But the beach scene does little to make me believe they are madly in love or the hospital scene after his torture.
Oh and the over modernised gunbarrel looked like it was trying to appeal to a younger audience. Fair enough, but for that reason, Goldenye at least feels like a complete Bond film and one of the best in the franchise.
Brosnan was suave and charming as well as sophisticated in that one.
Perhaps, but in parts it feels like I am watching a Hannibal Lecter movie in terms of atmposphere. They are tightly directed too. It has this oppressive atmosphere and does not feel like a Bond movie. The new Batman films are the same. I preferred the Tim Burton ones by far.
I am not a fan of the new Batman despite the media forced hype. Batman at best is a surreal character and when you try to make him like he actually exists in the real world, it becomes ridiculous.
Tim Burton set his films in an almost alternate world where it still had a gritty but comic book appearance. Gotham is an alternate New York. And Michael Keaton to me was the best Batman. And don't get me started on the garbage truck look of the batmobile.
Batman should always have a car that is cool. He did in the comics and just like Bond, he would not look good driving a skip.
Burton used the Batman universe as metaphors. Like fairy tales that are grounded in psychological truths.
Timothy Dalton, the best James Bond?http://fandangogroovers.wordpress.com/2012/11/07/timothy-dalton-the-best-james-bond/
I especially like this:
"And now the Zenith of what Dalton started, Skyfall (2012) has taken Bond further from Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan than many thought possible. He may have taken it too far to be recognisable as a Bond, but it is proving popular with fans (including me), audiences and critics. Don’t expect the ever humble Dalton to take any credit where Bond is today, but I don’t think he would have got to this point without the new direction he took the character in 1987."
Super @Regan I do think Dalton is too humble and has survived the storm of ignorance against him. His films hold up well and have that nostalgia factor. And like a fine Scotch whisky, they aged well!
I know that Dalton is close to the Broccoli family and Barbara is very fond of him.They have been seen socialising and I assume she would have asked Tim about what he thought of the idea of casting Daniel. Because Dalton was the first actor to publicly support him during the media backlash.
Dalton is so supportive of the franchise and a great ambassador. No wonder Cubby and Dana were so fond of him. Dalton is a very loyal individual and does not suffer from jealousy.