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The Pierce Brosnan Era- Rankings

00Beast00Beast
edited June 2012 in Bond Movies Posts: 4,762
There is a really popular thread on the bondandbeyond.forumotion.com discussion forum similiar to this, so I thought I'd bring it here to MI6 and see what we get. In short, the categories are Bond Performance, Movies, Main Villains, Henchmen, Girls, Soundtracks, Pre-Title Sequence, and Title Song. Rank them according to your preference, and it should sort of sum up how you view the Brosnan era. Here's mine:

Movies
1. GoldenEye
2. Tomorrow Never Dies
3. The World is not Enough
4. Die Another Day
(ironic, right?)

Bond Performance
1. GoldenEye
2. The World is not Enough
3. Tomorrow Never Dies
4. Die Another Day

Main Villains
1. Alec Trevelyan
2. Elliot Carver
3. Elektra King
4. Gustav Graves

Henchmen
1. General Ourumov
2. Renard
3. Xenia Onatopp
4. Stamper
5. Miranda Frost
6. Boris Grishenko
7. Henry Gupta
8. Davidov
9. Zao
10. Mr. Kil
11. Vlad
12. Mr. Bullion

Girls
1. Natalya Simonova
2. Wai Lin
3. Christmas Jones
4. Jinx
5. Paris Carver

Soundtracks
1. GoldenEye
2. Tomorrow Never Dies
3. The World is not Enough
4. Die Another Day

Title Songs
1. GoldenEye
2. The World is not Enough
3. Die Another Day
4. Tomorrow Never Dies

Pre-Title Sequences
1. GoldenEye
2. The World is not Enough
3. Die Another Day
4. Tomorrow Never Dies
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Comments

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited June 2012 Posts: 15,722
    Films
    GE
    TND
    DAD
    TWINE

    Soundtracks
    GE









    DAD
    TWINE
    TND

    Brosnan Performance
    DAD
    GE
    TND









    TWINE
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    Posts: 7,854
    Movies
    GoldenEye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World is Not Enough
    Die Another Day
    (yes, I actually do prefer them in order from earliest to latest)

    Bond Performance
    Die Another Day
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    GoldenEye
    The World is Not Enough

    Soundtracks
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World is Not Enough
    Die Another Day
    GoldenEye

    Title Songs
    Die Another Day
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World is Not Enough
    GoldenEye

    Pre-Title Sequences
    Die Another Day
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World is Not Enough
    GoldenEye
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited July 2012 Posts: 8,230
    Movies
    Goldeneye
    The World Is Not Enough
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day

    Bond Performance
    Goldeneye
    The World Is Not Enough
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day

    Main Villains
    Alec Trevelyan
    Elektra King
    Elliot Carver
    Gustav Graves

    Henchmen
    Xenia Onatopp
    Miranda Frost
    Renard
    Stamper
    Zao

    Girls
    Natalya Simonova
    Wai Lin
    Christmas Jones
    Jinx

    Soundtracks
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    The World is Not Enough
    Die Another Day
    Goldeneye

    Pre-Title Sequence
    The World Is Not Enough
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Goldeneye
    Die Another Day

    Title Song
    The World Is Not Enough
    Goldeneye
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 41,007
    Great topic choice, @00Beast:

    Movies
    Goldeneye
    The World Is Not Enough
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day

    Bond Performance
    Goldeneye
    The World Is Not Enough
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day

    Main Villains
    Alec Trevelyan
    Elektra King
    Gustav Graves
    Elliot Carver

    Henchmen
    Xenia Onatopp
    Zao
    Renard
    Stamper
    Miranda Frost

    Girls
    Natalya Simonova
    Wai Lin
    Jinx
    Christmas Jones

    Soundtracks
    Goldeneye
    The World is Not Enough
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day

    Pre-Title Sequence
    Goldeneye
    The World Is Not Enough
    Die Another Day
    Tomorrow Never Dies

    Title Song
    Goldeneye
    The World Is Not Enough
    Tomorrow Never Dies
    Die Another Day
  • DRush76DRush76
    Posts: 533
    Movies
    1. GoldenEye
    2. The World Is Not Enough
    3. Die Another Day
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies


    Bond Performance
    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Die Another Day
    3. Tomorrow Never Dies
    4. Goldeneye

    Main Villains
    1. Alec Trevelyan
    2. Elektra King
    3. Gustav Graves
    4. Elliot Carver

    Henchmen
    1. Renard
    2. Xenia Onatopp
    3. General Ourumov
    4. Zao
    5. Henry Gupta
    6. Boris Grishenko
    7. Stamper
    8. Mr. Kil
    9. Miranda Frost


    Girls
    1. Jinx Johnson
    2. Wai Lin
    3. Natalya Simonova
    4. Christmas Jones
    5. Paris Carver


    Title Songs
    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. Die Another Day
    4. Goldeneye

    Pre-Title Sequences
    1. Die Another Day
    2. Goldeneye
    3. The World Is Not Enough
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    Posts: 2,629
    Movies:

    1. GE
    2. TWINE
    3. TND
    4. DAD

    Bond Performancce

    1. DAD
    2. GE
    3. TND
    4. TWINE

    Main Villians

    1. Alec Trevelyan
    2. Elektra King
    3. Elliot Carver
    4. Moon/Graves

    Henchman:

    1. Xenia
    2. General Ouromov
    3. Stamper
    4. Renard
    5. Miranda

    Bond Girls:

    1. Natalya Simonova
    2. Wai Lin
    3. Christmas Jones
    4. Jinx

    Title Songs:

    1. GE
    2. TWINE
    3. TND
    4,000,003. An elephant farting
    4,000,004. DAD

    PTS:

    1. TWINE
    2. TND
    3. DAD
    4. GE
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    Brosnan Movies

    #1 The World Is Not Enough
    #2 Goldeneye
    #3 Tomorrow Never Dies
    #4 Die Another Day

    Brosnan performances

    #1 The World Is Not Enough
    #2 Goldeneye
    #3 Die Another Day
    #4 Tomorrow Never Dies

    Main villains

    #1 Elektra King
    #2 Gustav Graves
    #3 Trevelyan
    #4 Carver

    Henchmen

    #1 Frost
    #2 Renard
    #3 Ourumov
    #4 Zao

    Women

    #1 Michelle Yeoh
    #2 Izabella Scorupco
    #3 Teri Hatcher
    #4 Denise Richards

    Soundtracks/Title Song

    #1 Sheryl Crow
    #2 Garbage
    #3 Tina Turner
    #4 Ms Ciccone

    Best Pre Credits Sequence

    #1 The World Is Not Enough
    #2 Tomorrow Never Dies
    #3 Goldeneye
    #4 Die Another Day
  • 00130013
    Posts: 1,817
    Movies
    1. GoldenEye
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. The World is not Enough
    4. Die Another Day

    Bond Performance
    I don't see enough variability in order to make the classification.

    Main Villains
    1. Alec Trevelyan
    2. Elliot Carver
    3. Elektra King
    4. Gustav Graves

    Henchmen
    1. Xenia Onatopp
    2. General Ourumov
    3. Renard
    4. Stamper
    5. Miranda Frost
    The rest is too trivial to rank.

    Girls
    1. Natalya Simonova
    2. Wai Lin
    3. Paris Carver
    4. Jinx
    5. Christmas Jones

    Soundtracks
    1. Tomorrow Never Dies
    2. GoldenEye
    3. The World is not Enough
    4. Die Another Day

    Title Songs
    1. GoldenEye
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. The World is not Enough
    4. Die Another Day

    Pre-Title Sequences
    1. The World is not Enough
    2. GoldenEye
    3. Die Another Day
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    Posts: 3,262
    Movies
    001) 1st 2/3 of DAD
    002) 1st 1/2 of TND
    003) 1st 1/4 of GE
    004) 2nd 1/2 of TND
    005) Last 3/4 of GE
    006) Final 1/3 of DAD
    007) TWINE

    Bond Performance
    001) DAD
    002) TND
    003) GE
    004) TWINE

    Main Villains
    001) Agent 006
    002) Elliot Carver
    003) Sir Gustav Graves
    004) Elektra Vavra King

    Henchmen
    001) Cigar Girl
    002) Zao
    003) Henry Gupta
    004) Miranda Frost
    005) Xenia Onatopp
    006) General Ourumov
    007) Stamper
    008) Vlad
    009) Davidov
    0010) Mr. Kil
    0011) Mr. Bullion
    0012) Renard
    0013) Grishenko

    Girls
    001) Paris McKenna Carver
    002) Natalya Feodorovna Simonova
    003) Jinx
    004) Christmas Jones
    005) Wai LIn

    Soundtracks
    001) TND
    002) DAD
    003) TWINE
    004) GE

    Title Songs
    001) TWINE
    002) GE
    003) TND
    004) DAD

    Pre-Title Sequences
    001) TND
    002) DAD
    003) TWINE
    004) GE
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    @PrinceKamalKhan You can't rate favorite film releases in segments or parts, I mean it has to be the entire movie as a whole for sure? :-/
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
    Posts: 3,262
    Baltimore_007 wrote:
    @PrinceKamalKhan You can't rate favorite film releases in segments or parts, I mean it has to be the entire movie as a whole for sure? :-/

    Why not? It's my rankings and that's how I see them.
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
    Posts: 2,341
    I would give all the above to Brosnan's first film, GE.
    It has the best villian, the best henchmen/woman, the best Bond girl, the only thing that GE falls to another film in the Brosnan age is the PST which I give to TWINE. That boat chase on the Thames, Cigar girl, the escape from the Swiss bank. TWINE has the best PST of Brosnan's films but I give the rest of the categories to GE. Song, soundtrack.

    I won't bother about ranking the other films or categories and where they fall. they are all forgettable and just kinda blend together.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited June 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Movies
    GE (3/23)
    TWINE (7/23)
    TND (15-20/23)
    DAD (22/23)

    Bond performance
    DAD
    TWINE
    TND
    GE

    Main Villians

    Trevelayn
    King
    Carver
    Graves

    Henchmen

    Renard
    Onnatop
    Frost
    Ourumov
    Zao
    Mr Kil

    Girls
    Natalya
    Wai Lin
    Christmas Jones
    Jinx

    Soundtracks
    Goldeneye
    TWINE
    TND
    DAD

    Title songs
    TWINE
    GE
    TND
    DAD

    PTS
    TWINE
    GE
    DAD
    TND
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited June 2012 Posts: 4,534
    1/22. Goldeneye 9/10
    2/22. The World Is Not Enough 8.5/10
    3/22. Tomorrow Never Dies 7.5/10
    18/22. Die Another Day 6/10

    Best Brosnan performance

    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. Goldeneye
    4. Die Another Day

    Brosnan vs the rest

    1. Roger Moore
    2. Pierce Brosnan
    3. Sean Connery
    4. Timothy Dalton
    5. George Lazenby
    6. Daniel Craig

    M:

    1. Goldeneye
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. Twine
    4. DAD

    Bondgirl

    1. Natalya
    2. Wailin
    3. Xenia
    4. Elektra
    5. Paris
    6. Christmis Jones
    7. Frost
    8. Jinx

    Lead Villian

    1. Eliot Carver
    2. Alec
    3. Elekta
    4. Renard
    5. Moon
    6. Graves

    Best Chacter development

    1. Goldeneye
    2. The World Is Not Enough
    3. Tomorrow Never Dies
    4. Die Another Day

    Best pre-title

    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Goldeneye
    3. Tomorrow Never Dies
    4. Die Another Day

    Best End

    1. Goldeneye
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. The World Is Not Enough
    4. Die Another Day

    Title song:

    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Goldeneye
    3. Tomorrow Never Dies
    4. Die Another Day

    Maintitle

    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Goldeneye
    3. Die Another Day
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies

    Gunbarrel

    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Goldeneye
    3. Tomorrow Never Dies
    4. Die Another Day

    Score:

    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. Goldeneye
    4. Die Another Day

    Best SE DVD

    1. Die Another Day
    2. The World Is Not Enough
    3. Tomorrow Never Dies
    4. Goldeneye

    Dvd menu:

    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Goldeneye
    3. Die Another Day
    4. Tomorrow Never Dies

    Twine R2 have a difrent dvd menu then R1, in the style of the maintitle with music of The Themes http://oi46.tinypic.com/2a7sw9x.jpg . Moost strange one is Tomorrow Never Dies.

    Best promoted Bond movie from Brosnan his last 3 movies.

    1. The World Is Not Enough
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. Die Another Day
  • GetafixGetafix
    edited June 2012 Posts: 11,425
    Movies:

    1. TND (19/22)
    2. GE (20/22)
    3. TWINE (21/22)
    4. DAD (22/22)
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited June 2012 Posts: 11,189
    Getafix wrote:
    Movies:

    2. GE (20/22)

    :-)) =)) :-)) =)) =)) :-))

    I just can't take this seriously - the others perhaps but not this.

    You crack me up @Getafix.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    Movies

    TND
    TWINE
    GE
    DAD

    Bond Performance

    TND
    DAD
    TWINE
    GE

    Main Villains

    Alec Trevelyan
    Elektra King
    Elliot Carver
    Gustav Graves

    Henchmen

    Renard
    Onatop
    Ouromov
    Frost
    Stamper
    Zao

    Girls

    Natalya
    Wai-Lin
    Christmas Jones
    Jinx

    Soundtracks

    TND
    TWINE
    DAD
    GE

    Title Songs

    GE
    TND
    TWINE
    DAD

    PTS

    TND
    TWINE
    GE
    DAD
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    Posts: 7,854
    Getafix wrote:
    Movies:

    1. TND (19/22)
    2. GE (20/22)
    3. TWINE (21/22)
    4. DAD (22/22)

    I don't think I've ever noticed you have such a low opinion of Brosnan.
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Movies:

    2. GE (20/22)

    :-)) =)) :-)) =)) =)) :-))

    I just can't take this seriously - the others perhaps but not this.

    You crack me up @Getafix.

    You weren't with me the day I walked out of the cinema after 2 hours of excruciating torture watching GE in 1995. One of the worst days of my life.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited June 2012 Posts: 11,189
    Getafix wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Movies:

    2. GE (20/22)

    :-)) =)) :-)) =)) =)) :-))

    I just can't take this seriously - the others perhaps but not this.

    You crack me up @Getafix.

    You weren't with me the day I walked out of the cinema after 2 hours of excruciating torture watching GE in 1995. One of the worst days of my life.

    "One of the worst days of your life" - ever the dramatist (as usual) :)) :))

    Tell me Getafix...which lunatic asylum did they get you out of? ;)

    You're in the minority. I dout even people who weren't fond of it would describe it as "torture". DAD on the other hand, I can understand.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,722
    Getafix wrote:
    You weren't with me the day I walked out of the cinema after 2 hours of excruciating torture watching GE in 1995. One of the worst days of my life.

    You are a legend :))
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Movies:

    2. GE (20/22)

    :-)) =)) :-)) =)) =)) :-))

    I just can't take this seriously - the others perhaps but not this.

    You crack me up @Getafix.

    An utter disappointment.....oh dear, I might have to erase part of my memory after seeing this. I could understand TWINE and DAD, because at times I used to not like them as much, but GE and TND? To quote that control room technician from DAF, "Just doesn't make sense!!" I mean, I respect your opinion @Getafix, and don't want to hurt your feelings, but why do you not like the Brosnan movies so much? Is it just him?
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    Posts: 12,837
    Getafix wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Movies:

    2. GE (20/22)

    :-)) =)) :-)) =)) =)) :-))

    I just can't take this seriously - the others perhaps but not this.

    You crack me up @Getafix.

    You weren't with me the day I walked out of the cinema after 2 hours of excruciating torture watching GE in 1995. One of the worst days of my life.

    =)) Ah as much as I disagree with you, you always make me laugh.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    Movies

    1. GoldenEye
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. The World is not Enough
    4. Die Another Day

    Bond Performance

    1. GoldenEye
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. The World is not Enough
    4. Die Another Day

    Main Villains

    1. Alec Trevelyan
    2. Elektra King
    3. Elliot Carver
    4. Gustav Graves

    Henchmen

    1. Xenia Onatopp
    2. Boris Grishenko
    3. General Ourumov
    4. Stamper
    5. Miranda Frost
    6. Mr. Bullion
    7. Zao
    8. Renard
    9. Davidov
    10. Henry Gupta
    11. Vlad
    12. Mr. Kil


    Girls

    1. Wai Lin
    2. Natalya Simonova
    3. Paris Carver
    4. Jinx
    5. Christmas Jones



    Soundtracks

    1. Tomorrow Never Dies
    2. The World is not Enough
    3. Die Another Day











    4. GoldenEye :-&


    Title Songs

    1. GoldenEye
    2. The World is not Enough
    3. Tomorrow Never Dies










    4. Die Another Day :-&


    Pre-Title Sequences

    1. The World is not Enough
    2. Tomorrow Never Dies
    3. Die Another Day
    4. GoldenEye
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    00Beast wrote:
    BAIN123 wrote:
    Getafix wrote:
    Movies:

    2. GE (20/22)

    :-)) =)) :-)) =)) =)) :-))

    I just can't take this seriously - the others perhaps but not this.

    You crack me up @Getafix.

    An utter disappointment.....oh dear, I might have to erase part of my memory after seeing this. I could understand TWINE and DAD, because at times I used to not like them as much, but GE and TND? To quote that control room technician from DAF, "Just doesn't make sense!!" I mean, I respect your opinion @Getafix, and don't want to hurt your feelings, but why do you not like the Brosnan movies so much? Is it just him?

    TND is by far and away Brozza's best film. The others are of rapidly decreasing quality. But I still rank TND below any other Bond movie as I could never stand Brosnan's 'take' on Bond. If you simply can't stand the central actor it's difficult to appreciate the movies.
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    edited June 2012 Posts: 11,189
    You hate him so much yet you have a relatively handsome pic of him :)) :))

    I for one always found him entertaining. Even in his crap made for tv films he had a smile that could charm the pants off you (and I'm a bloke). A fairly intelligent work colleague thinks Taffin is "amazing" and when I asked him who he preferred between Brosnan and Craig he looked at me with UTTER contempt before saying Brosnan (he hates Craig).

    I don't agree with him btw but Brosnan must have SOMETHING if he's still fondly regarded. I actually have a sneaking suspicion that between him
    and Mr Craig, he's the nicer bloke.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited June 2012 Posts: 12,837
    BAIN123 wrote:
    You hate him so much yet you have a relatively handsome pic of him :)) :))

    I think it's meant to be ironic :))
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited June 2012 Posts: 15,722
    Deep down, I'm sure that Getafix loves Pierce Brosnan and his 4 films. He just tries to hide his feelings. Maybe he was educated to hate PB. But imo I'm sure Getafix's bedroom is full of Brosnan pictures on the walls.
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited June 2012 Posts: 12,837
    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    Deep down, I'm sure that Getafix loves Pierce Brosnan and his 4 films. He just tries to hide his feelings. Maybe he was educated to hate PB. But imo I'm sure Getafix's bedroom is full of Brosnan pictures on the walls.

    Every time he types something bad about him on this site, he turns around, looks at his Brosnan shrine and says "please forgive me" :))
  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    DaltonCraig007 wrote:
    Deep down, I'm sure that Getafix loves Pierce Brosnan and his 4 films. He just tries to hide his feelings. Maybe he was educated to hate PB. But imo I'm sure Getafix's bedroom is full of Brosnan pictures on the walls.

    My cover's blown. I am actually a closet Brosnanite.

    I think I've said it before but just because you seem so concerned, here it is again.

    I have nothing against Brosnan. I like the guy and have enjoyed several of his non-Bond movies. Of all the actors apart from Sean, he's the only one who I'd make the effort to watch in something else. However, there is the small problem that from the moment I first saw him in GE in the cinema in 1995 I was utterly, bitterly disappointed by his Bond. At first I blamed the script and direction and thought he just needed another chance. To an extent TND allayed some of my fears. For me it's still the best of his four. But there was still a feeling that Brosnan wasn't up to it. With TWINE and DAD it no longer became possible to blame everything else and ignore the fact that Brosnan just wasn't any good in the role. I expect neither respect, nor agreement, but that's my take on it.
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