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I mean, you're probably trolling (if not then perhaps you've started off on the wrong foot) but your story does bring me back in time. I was a similar age when TLD came out and I'll never forget when I first saw the preview. Mind you, I had no idea that Moore had stepped down from the role or that it was something that had been a long time coming, so I wasn't prepared for the shock of seeing another actor up there. I just kept thinking, "That's not James Bond!"
Of course, when I finally saw the movie I found myself warming up to Dalton. He was no Sir Rog, but he was alright. Years later, I can understand the excitement and anticipation that many people felt at the time. It's been great to read all of the different accounts shared by members from that time period and all our different perspectives of Dalton at the time. If you stick around long enough, you might just learn a thing or two.
I imagine AVTAK with Dalton would have been very good, again better than what we got. I imagine it with a less silly script, get rid of the stupid fire engine routine, cast a less screamy woman and bingo.
Dalton opposite Christopher Walken would have been great. The action and fights would have been better, oh yes that would have been a much improved AVTAK.
On a side note I have always felt that LTK was also a missed opportunity. I actually like it as a different style of entry despite it's flaws. HOWEVER if the creative team were so keen to make a tough revenge thriller, and Tracy was obviously mentioned a some point during production hence the "he was married once, it was a long time ago" line, THIS was the film to make the Tracy/Blofeld payback story. Wow, I'm getting excited just thinking about this... Oh but wait, EON had no right to use Blofeld :(
As Charlton Heston once said 'Damn you McClory, damn you to Hell"
Exactly. This is the direction they had decided to move in before Moore got there, so I always feel it's a bit unfair to place all the blame on him. Now, I have no doubt that having him in the role probably heightened some of the humorous aspects of those films, but one way or the other they were going to make different films from what came before. The change was inevitable.
No one knew any other Bond but Connery. EON tried to replace him and the other fella didn't cut it with the public.(not my opinion BTW)
We are used to a new Bond now but yeah, the series could very well have died away had Connery not come back to 'rescue' it. DAF as-is with a new actor could have sank forever.
I really used to give this movie hell, lol
Still, a Bond movie with a younger Moore is tempting.
Moore definitely would have worked as the first Bond.
Yes. Seems the whole point of DAF was to get as far away from the approach taken with OHMSS as possible so I can't picture George in this one at all. Arguably the first Bond film to foreshadow the Moore era, yet I can't quite picture Roger in this one either (maybe in the Moonbuggy sequence though). I really can't picture any other Bond-Dalton and Craig included, taking on Thumper and Bambi.
I actually find it more fun to speculate what DAF been like with John Gavin.
As for TLD, I'll go against popular vote here and say I actually could see Roger in that film, and would probably prefer it to DAF.
I can picture Roger on top of the land-rover shot from similar angles looking as he did when clinging to the plane at the end of OP. Same with the cargo net towards the end. He could easily have pulled off the cello case ride. That's a classic Moore type sequence. I can picture him in the Afghanistan attire (similar to his TSWLM moment). He could have pulled off riding the roller coaster with Kara (making his "Ohhhwrooooo" sound) as it descends.
As for Kara herself, Roger's TLD might have had someone with a physical type closer to Cassandra Harris in the part.
Roger looked great in 1987, closer to the way he appeared in OP than he did in VIEW. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to think that had Dalton still been too busy after the Brosnan deal fell thru, Cubby may have persuaded Moore to come back for an 8th outing at the last minute. I completely believe that would have happened.
I can understand why Cubby may have kept Moore on as he advanced in years. His first four films were fine re Moore's age. For FYEO I think Cubby was keen to do something the polar opposite to MR and felt that the best way to balance the risk was to keep the star.
I suspect Cubby and maybe even Moore felt FYEO would be his last - but the development of production of NSNA and Connery's return meant that Cubby broke the bank and Moore returned to ensure that audiences recognised OP as the "official" Bond film of 1983. To cast a new star against Connery would have been incredibly risky and potentially damaging to the series. I very much enjoy OP and think Moore just about gets away with it.
But I remain unsure why Moore returned for AVTAK. He obviously had a makeover and surgery between OP and AVTAK. That really didn't help at all. But it shows he was keen to continue. Could he have negotiated a two film contract when he was enticed back to do OP? I cannot believe that he would have been cast in AVTAK on a stand alone basis. Dalton was always on Cubby's radar and I would be surprised if he was not considered for AVTAK. I am in a minority of Bond fans - I really like AVTAK but in spite of Moore. Dalton could have done that film and it would have been a more fun intro for his era.