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Should We Have Two 007's ?

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  • GetafixGetafix
    Posts: 11,425
    HASEROT wrote:
    Bentley wrote:
    Fellow Agents,
    It's difficult to know how many visitors to this site have actually read the novels and this makes the debate challenging.
    The question is not wether one silly film (Octopussy) is better than another (Never Say Never Again).
    It is more about giving the quality screen interpretation to Fleming's novels that Le Carre has enjoyed. Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy being one example.
    The relitavely recent "Casino Royale" was, in my opinion, a reasonable movie and had a passing resemblance to the novel.
    It was not however, set in 1953 with the second world war just over and the cold war starting. Nor was it located in Royale - Les - Eaux. Nor does it feature a plan to bankrupt a fifth columnist working for Smersh.
    The fact is, the original story has never been told and they would all now make remarkable period pieces wether filmed for the small or large screen.
    Regards,
    Bentley

    would the novels themselves, if they were 100% translated into a film, make a good movie?..... with all honesty - it's 50/50 at best.... two different mediums often times can't produce the same results, because what works in a book might not work on film, and vice versa... for example, Jurassic Park the novel is different in a lot of areas than it's big screen counterpart - but both are excellent forms of their respected mediums.. same goes for The Shining... and i'll use The Shining again for the example how it can fail... they made a faithful 3 or 4 part miniseries to The Shining novel in the late 90s, and it was awful... so, sometimes creative license can be a good thing.

    as a Bond fan, would I love to see faithful adaptations of the Fleming works, of course - but, to the average viewer, a faithful adaptation of Casino Royale might be boring.... its anyone's guess - but i think it would be a fun experience if they did them in a miniseries on HBO ala 'Band of Brothers'.. where it only goes from CR thru to TMWTGG and thats it, and each part is a new book... i would tune in to that - as a Bond fan...

    the average person might get confused... and never underestimate the stupidity of the average everyday person

    Period TV adaptations would be pitched at a very different audience to the films. They would be about capturing the essence of Fleming's novels. They would not necessarily require huge budgets and could be fantastic. People might be surprised by how different the novels are from the EON films.

    I don't think this will ever happen but I don't see it as being in competition with the EON films. It would be about giving the Fleming novels a chance to actually be properly dramatised with all the post WW2 and Cold War richness that comes from doing a period piece.
  • BentleyBentley
    Posts: 267
    Dear Getafix,
    How right you are and I'd buy shares in the production.
    We could have Alan Furst or Philip Kerr write the screenplays.
    Big question - who would play "Vintage Bond"?
    My vote would be Dominic West.
    Any thoughts?
    Regards,
    Bentley
  • thelivingroyalethelivingroyale
    edited July 2012 Posts: 12,837
    Agent007391 wrote:
    Y'know, why not a rival film? Give the old actors a chance to reprise the role. As much as I can't stand NSNA, I did enjoy that they brought back Connery instead of casting another actor as Bond. Think about it, maybe Moore could have fun playing an "old age" Bond. A friend and I were having a conversation about this yesterday, about having a Bond film where he suffers from old age, like losing his teeth or going through Alzheimer's or something. The serious fans (those who prefer more serious films, a la Craig) would get their treat with the EON film, while the funny fans (those who prefer more humorous films, a la Moore) would get their fill from the rival film.

    Not too long ago I came up with the idea of a one off, starring Dalton as an older Bond on his last mission. Afterwards they would've just cast a new young actor and carried on as normal.
  • boldfingerboldfinger
    Posts: 5,767
    0000?

    Nah, doesn´t look very cool.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    boldfinger wrote:
    0000?

    Nah, doesn´t look very cool.
    0000 would probably be some low level dispensable Provocateur.
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
    Posts: 1,548
    My head says no but my heart on the other hand... Maybe a young Bond TV series ala Smallville. Just kidding folks!
  • Agent007391Agent007391 Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start
    edited July 2012 Posts: 7,854
    LeChiffre wrote:
    My head says no but my heart on the other hand... Maybe a young Bond TV series ala Smallville. Just kidding folks!

    So, in other words, he should face off with, and defeat, all of his major enemies before he hits 25? In Smallville, before even the very mention of the Superman suit, Clark Kent defeated Lex Luthor, Doomsday, General Zod, Bizarro and Brainiac. Basically, Young Bond would defeat Blofeld, Dr. No, Largo, Mr. Big, the Spang Brothers and others before the letters M I and the number 6 appear on a background element together? I say no.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 8,266
    I'm actually on @Bentley's en @Getafix's side on this one. A miniseries would be good. Tbh we allready have something like that in the literary Bond, where TDMC and CB clearly discribe completely different Bonds. TDMC is an awful book though, but that's besides the point.
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