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I'm sure there's another this discussing this somewhere. I'll see what I can dig up so this can be locked.
Welcome to MI6 by the way!
I looked through this new forum and saw no gunbarrel thread, are we still counting the ones from the previous board?
technically it was at the beginning of CR - but they just wanted to stylize it, and incorporate it into how Bond got his 00 status...
i admit, i was let down a little when it wasn't at the start of QOS, but now after some time, i view those films as kind of one giant movie, and having the gunbarrel at the start of QOS - would signify the beginning of a new story... so in that regard, i like how they threw it at the end of the movie, as a bookend for the 2 films - not to mention that the scene with Dryden in CR's PTS, mirrors (in a way) the end of QOS where Bond confronts Yusef..
that's what makes the gun barrel worthwhile.
Sure...but It's more subtle than that. Look at the GB's from say OP, AVTAK or TLD. All of those had more traditional GB music arrangements--no fancy electronics the way the Brosnan era ones did. All I'm saying is you can have a modern, stylized take on the classic theme without going overboard with unnecessary flourishes. Also, CG is ok, as long as it doesn't look like CG; which I felt was especially apparent in QOS
I want them to keep the gun barrol at the beginning though, but i want them to keep the QoS one, i thought it showed Bond's toughness and that he isn't afraid.
DAD ditched the Brosnan template for the gun barrel music (the vamp into the end of the James Bond Theme) for the sake of an anniversary celebration, and David Arnold delivered the most garish gun barrel cue to date—and not just because of the electronics. The percussion loops were bad, yes, but so was the instrumentation and, frankly, the entire concept of anniversary-based pandering.
I mentioned a "Brosnan template." Another thing I love about the gun barrel cues is that each actor—save Dalton thanks to a combination of never having a repeat composer and Barry's indifference towards the franchise at that point—has their own gun barrel cue template that's generally followed during their tenure (though ignored by one-off composers); a distinction that musically keys the cue to the lead actor. Connery's is the Bond theme straight up, and frankly, that should be reserved for him by any long-term Bond composer; Lazenby got the synth; Moore got the bouncier opening vamp and strings replacing the twangy guitar; Brosnan got the vamp directly into the theme's finale. As for Craig, well, maybe if his gun barrels could sit still for a minute or two we'd get something special for him too. But if we finally get the gun barrel up front again and the music just throws the original theme at us, I'd be very, very, disappointed.
Okay, rant over.
towards the end, i recall figuring out that it was just a dream - and breathed a sigh of relief... and then woke up...
I want the traditional sequence at the start of any EON Bond film regardless of it's quality or plot, I don't want it in the middle or at the end or even shooting it's bullets out of the screen...is that to much to ask. Why are EON so aggressively litigious and protective of their franchise if they're not even willing to respect and value their heritage.
I hope the gunbarrel sequence will return in Bond 23 but it matters little now that Babs and MGW have effectively ruined what had been a 40 year old cinematic tradition.
Rant over! [-(
David Arnold has always said, which is true, is that the great thing with the gun barrel is, whilst watching it, it could be the best opening 10 seconds of the greatest Bond film ever. It just gives out that kind of feeling.