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I was expecting Casino Royale 2.0, instead I felt like this was a poor attempt at trying to blend the old movies with the current style of Craig's era. I heavily disliked all of the things pointing back to the past bond films, it was so retarded to include the gadgets on the Aston Martin DB5, first off it doesnt even make sense, in Casino Royale bond won that car in the casino in a poker game bet with Dimitrios . So basically the writers completely forgot about that. Another thing I highly disliked was Silva, wow what a stupid villain. The story felt rushed and overall boring.
Things I did like were the scenes of Bond infiltrating Shanghai, hanging on the elevator, being isolated on the beach drinking. Basically the beginning was good but just went downhill. I thought the plot and story was very unrealistic. Daniel Craig was fed so many quips and one liners. The one liners felt extremely forced and out of place. Seriously I mean the line where Bond said, " what a good waste of Scotch", literally made me wana puke.
I can tell where the producers are heading with the franchise and it feels awkward , out of place and reliant on the past. I expect to see the franchise going into another Pierce Brosnan era with subpar plots and too much action.
Casino Royale makes skyfall look like thrash
. I did like the scenes where Bond was working out and training though. I feel the writers should have emphasized way more on bonds isolation during his time off duty. Skyfall really missed the ball. I Also feel the ending battle at Bonds house was prolonged , boring, unrealistic and just sloppy writing. I also really missed David Arnold, Thomas Newman's soundtrack felt out of place to me towards the end.
Loved the Shanghai scenes too.
I hope now that the 50th Anniversary is over and that while Craig is still in the role that we will get braver Bond films in terms of humour more similar to Royale but I doubt it.
I still like SK but I don't think it's as good as what the reviewers are saying.
"I did like the scenes where Bond was working out and training though. I feel the writers should have emphasized way more on bonds isolation during his time off duty."
Yeah, I loved them too but the off duty scenes should have been longer. If they're going to do it, they should do it properly. The script should have been tailored in such a way to allow for longer scenes here. The romance scenes were too short too.
Although I love Nolan, his action scenes suck.
In terms of the new Walther, I agree, it was executed well. It's the DB5 having gadgets that bothered me. Are we supposed to believe that Dimitrious who Bond won the car off in CR had these in his car? If the former quartermaster (who we have never seen as the old Q obviously doesn't exist as this is a reboot) had this done then there should have been some dialogue about it. This is an example of just ticking off the Bond ingredient boxes for the sake of tradition. It's also poor continuity. Yes, they've had poor continuity in the other Bond films too but this doesn't make it right.
In terms of the villain's scheme, they always have some grand plan where as all Silva really wanted to do was kill M. It just felt a little flat to me.
I felt that the humour was too heavy handed in the casino scene.
Yeah, I agree. Get Nolan. He would be perfect for a Bond film.
Nolan's action scenes suck?! Strong words. Why do you say this?
Meh my opinion, obviously, but he doesn't use a second unit. I always felt like in the batman movies his action scenes were the worst parts. I liked the rotating hallway in Inception, but even then there was so much more he could've done.
I think that if he used 2nd unit directors (and the other's who help make action scenes) rather than doing everything himself, things would be perfect.
I bet lots of fans wanted to be clowns and apes.
Could not agree more.
I actually think Silva was one of the more clever villains. Blasting a hole in the tube ceiling so the next train aling kills Bond was genius. He was one step ahead of MI6 all the way. There is a reason he is so well regarded.
I thought the story whipped along at a fair old crack. Why was it boring? No deathspewing satellite?
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Since people were bitching and complaining about the lack of oneliners in the previous films, Eon put them back in and people are still complaining.
I never felt SF was boring. Perhaps it could have been trimmed a bit but so could EVERY Bond film.
Forced, not a Bond film, makes no sense,...
Forced might be that the tributes are "shoved down our throats"?
I just don't know... :-?
One thing I do NOT want is a depressing Bond film. If thats the case give me my death spewing satellite
I don't mind a serious Bond film but not one that isn't at least a bit fun. SF (I felt) was both
Word. Bain. Word.
Correct. You should have brought lilies.
I mean, correct, I agree wholeheartedly! :-)
There are thing that don't add up here. And although I love Bardem's portrayal, I think it was a mistake to introduce him 70 minutes into the movie.
And don't get me started on Bond who gets surprised to learn that his flat was sold after he was presumed dead. An international top-agent can't anticipate that? And why does he lead Sylva into a trap at Skyfall, where he failed to anticipate that the family gun collection would have been sold? Again, after he was presumed dead. AND he didn't bring any guns with him to protect the head of MI6. That's incompetence.
Silva had planned this whole scheme for years, and he obviously knew that M and Bond were so close. So they both had to die.
And do you honestly believe that Bond was surprised? He was nothing more than his own dry self.
Like I said, there are things that don't add up, and things that I found was a result of lazy writing. How did Silva for example know that Q would plug in the cables in the computer at the exact time where he needed it in order to escape?
How did JW Pepper know that Bond was a famous secret agent?
Why didn't Blofeld recognize Bond in OHMSS?
Those two questions belong in another thread.
This thread is not about me either, but about the movie 'Skyfall'.
The only thing that they should've explained more, for me, is the lost 00-list. Is it resolved? Any more agents killed?
I believe the problems are because of a week story line concocted by comity without a solid source material to work with, IMO If the producers want to have a coherent Bond 24 without these problems then they need to let John Logan write a complete story on his own with no outside input, allow him time to polish it & come up with a more structured screenplay.
JamesCraig, sorry to correct you again but it's a list of NATO AGENTS, not 00's.
Again? Lol, this is your first time. But thx.
What I loved:
The entire Skyfall sequence. Very intense action and drama. Favorite part was Silva putting the gun to M's head and his own before Bond knifed him in the back. M's death, which I honestly didn't see coming was very emotional. Kincade was great. Arguably one of the best climatic finishes of the franchise.
The terroizing of MI6 concept was very realistic.
Eve as Moneypenny was a surprise also. Loved that they finally gave the Moneypenny a background.
Craig's character development to a more seasoned agent while revisiting his childhood. An added character depth to the Bond character we haven't seen on film before.
The Main Title Theme. The graphics meshed well with Adele's song. The movie theatre sound system enhanced Adele's power chords.
Bardin as SIlva. Reminded me of Christopher Walken's Max Zorin, but still well performed. His telling the story of the rats and borderline homoeroticism with Bond were cringing, but in a good way.
The CGI was barely noticable.
Ben Winshaw's Q. I still prefer the grumpy senior citizens as Q, but neither Desmond nor John could have pulled Ben's computer geek version of Q. Loved the "exploding pens, we don't do that sort of stuff anymore" (something to that effect). This is promising for us minimal gadget fans.
Less globetrotting and more focus in the UK (London and Scotland).
More humor, but not DAF overbearing.
The character depth of Bond, Moneypenny, M and Silva.
Finally a decent henchman. Although I didn't like that Patrice was killed off before we saw Silva.
What I didn't like:
Silva's escape from MI6 reeked of The Dark Knight.
Limited screen time for Berenice Marlohe, whose character turned out to be a damsel in distress prostitute.
The trailers pretty much covered the PTS. If you've seen the trailers, you've seen the PTS.
I may be missing something, but if Bond was uncomfortable with going to Skyfall, why did he take M there?
Not as blatant as DAD, but too many nods to past films for my palate.
Overall, Skyfall's strong finish puts it in my Top 10. I'm thinking in the 5-7 range.
Glad you enjoyed it, Kerim. I'm also thinking of putting Skyfall around the 6-7 range.