SKYFALL: FANS' REACTIONS - GUARANTEED SPOILERS

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Oh lord, this hurts. :-O
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    edited November 2012 Posts: 16,351
    DarthDimi wrote:
    Oh lord, this hurts. :-O

    Here's one more to end your suffering.
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  • I don't think Justin Bieber can even spell James Bond.
  • Posts: 533
    Murdock wrote:
    This isn't directed at anyone, but I thought I'd inject some humor into this thread.
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    I don't get the humor in this. What are you trying to say? Anyone who disliked "SKYFALL", loved "DIE ANOTHER DAY"? Is this supposed to be some kind of slap at those who didn't like the film? By the way, "DIE ANOTHER DAY" is far from being one of my favorite Bond movies. But I still liked it better than "SKYFALL".
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    DRush76 wrote:
    Murdock wrote:
    This isn't directed at anyone, but I thought I'd inject some humor into this thread.
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    I don't get the humor in this. What are you trying to say? Anyone who disliked "SKYFALL", loved "DIE ANOTHER DAY"? Is this supposed to be some kind of slap at those who didn't like the film? By the way, "DIE ANOTHER DAY" is far from being one of my favorite Bond movies. But I still liked it better than "SKYFALL".
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  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    DRush76 wrote:
    I don't get the humor in this. What are you trying to say? Anyone who disliked "SKYFALL", loved "DIE ANOTHER DAY"? Is this supposed to be some kind of slap at those who didn't like the film? By the way, "DIE ANOTHER DAY" is far from being one of my favorite Bond movies. But I still liked it better than "SKYFALL".

    No I'm not saying that if you hated you Skyfall you automatically love Die Another Day. It's just a harmless joke to segway the arguments that have been going on. :-w
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 803
    DRush76 wrote:
    I don't get the humor in this. What are you trying to say? Anyone who disliked "SKYFALL", loved "DIE ANOTHER DAY"? Is this supposed to be some kind of slap at those who didn't like the film? By the way, "DIE ANOTHER DAY" is far from being one of my favorite Bond movies. But I still liked it better than "SKYFALL".
    Lighten up, Francis. :P

  • edited December 2012 Posts: 3,276
    Here's another for the DAD-lovers (proud to be one):
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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 24,183
    DRush76 wrote:
    I don't get the humor in this. What are you trying to say? Anyone who disliked "SKYFALL", loved "DIE ANOTHER DAY"? Is this supposed to be some kind of slap at those who didn't like the film? By the way, "DIE ANOTHER DAY" is far from being one of my favorite Bond movies. But I still liked it better than "SKYFALL".

    Comedy.
    Lighten up.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    I am all for people's opinions, but how can the abortive DAD, that is in fact an absolute salt on the wound Bond film in almost every conceivable way, still better than Skyfall? Oy. #-o
    DarthDimi wrote:
    DRush76 wrote:
    I don't get the humor in this. What are you trying to say? Anyone who disliked "SKYFALL", loved "DIE ANOTHER DAY"? Is this supposed to be some kind of slap at those who didn't like the film? By the way, "DIE ANOTHER DAY" is far from being one of my favorite Bond movies. But I still liked it better than "SKYFALL".

    Comedy.
    Lighten up.

    Some don't have any sense of humor. @DRush76 would hate Carlin no doubt.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 3,276
    I am all for people's opinions, but how can the abortive DAD, that is in fact an absolute salt on the wound Bond film in almost every conceivable way, still better than Skyfall?
    It isn't. Except from the car-chase on the ice, I hated the Iceland-scenes which takes up about 1/3 of the movie. But everything right up until Bond heads to Iceland, is perfect. Not necesarrily "better" than SF, but I just enjoyed these more.
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    Zekidk wrote:
    But everything right up until Bond heads to Iceland, is perfect. Not necesarrily "better" than SF, but I just enjoyed these more.
    Credibility shot to bits right there. I don't think you have any right to slate SF's plot if you think DAD is perfect.
  • Posts: 3,327
    Zekidk wrote:
    This confuses me. Are you suggesting that if you don't like SF, you probaby don't like Bond?
    Sounds sensible enough for me. Maybe we could take it one step further too. Anyone who likes DAD probably doesn't like Bond.......

    ;)
  • Shoot me but I don't think DAD is the worst Bond film, I enjoy DAD more than QOS. I think most of the first half is really good. Sadly it starts falling apart a bit when Graves rips off the TSWLM skydive, then takes a nosedive once we get to Iceland.

    @Murdock God that film creeped me out when I was a little kid. Anyway, what's funny is people have actually been using that argument.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
    Posts: 16,351
    @Murdock God that film creeped me out when I was a little kid. Anyway, what's funny is people have actually been using that argument.


    I love Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. :D
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 3,276
    Zekidk wrote:
    But everything right up until Bond heads to Iceland, is perfect. Not necesarrily "better" than SF, but I just enjoyed these more.
    Credibility shot to bits right there. I don't think you have any right to slate SF's plot if you think DAD is perfect.
    I didn't say that the whole movie is "perfect."
    And actually I have as much "right" as anyone to criticize SF. And there's really nothing you can do about it, besides continuing to whine and complain about it and maybe join Germanlady's thought police!
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,139
    One of the things I love about SF is Bond's comparative quiet confidence against how he was in CR and QoS. I felt that his confidence and skills were more refined and significantly more subtle in SF and even though he knew his limitations after the Istanbul botch up, it was his sense of duty and loyalty that took precedence over any fears or doubts he had about himself and just went ahead and got on with the job that needed doing.
    This is all the more evident and for me, demands respect and appreciation for Bond as the movie clearly showed that, in all honesty, Bond had no business going back out into the field, struggling and failing to pass the mental/fitness tests and would seemingly be of better use doing official standard intelligence work.
    Would it have mattered if M had told Bond he had failed and that he'd be once again suspended? (Ref. QoS) Maybe. Maybe not.
    Bond has proven in the last 2 movies that he is an individual that is resourceful enough to be dismissed and still somehow find his way in the thick of what needs to be done. Sure, in the last 2 movies there was a more bullish approach to it but this time around, that quieter confidence showcases a more professional and forward thinking disposition.
    One could argue that, there could be a little more to Bond removing the bullet fragment when he did because, there was a big chance that he himself knew he may not make it back on to active duty after knowing in his heart that he didn't perform up to scratch and thus, made sure that the bullet fragment was FHEO. That way, if suspended, it may not be hard to imagine Bond working independently from MI6 (unofficially using their resources perhaps) to investigate and track down leads using the bullet fragment as a jumping off point.
    This of course is one of the things I feel that's an emphatic theme particularly in the Craig era; Bond's persistence and perseverance and triumphs to never give up in overwhelming odds, particularly regarding instances that require a degree of mental and physical endurance and not just from adversaries but from himself too.

    I really love SF not just as a movie but I think it's a really significant Bond movie particularly in terms of a tonal shift in Bond's character and I believe there are many underlying and nuanced elements that really gives the movie a lot of charm.
  • Posts: 6,601
    Its amazing how well it holds up against all those "Oscar" contender and other new films.

    RT:
    92% Skyfall with 8% liked it

    79% Killing Them Softly (new Brad Pitt) with 65% liked it
    90% Lincoln with 88% liked it
    88% Life of Pi with 90% liked it
    90% Liver Linings Playbook with 87% liked it

    only one better is
    Argo 95% with 94% liked it

    Metacritic:
    81 Skyfall

    64 Killing Them Softly
    78 Life of Pi
    86 Lincoln
    81 Silver Linings Playbook
    86 Argo

  • DarthDimi wrote:
    Careful with comedy, @Murdock. I once suggested Justin Bieber for Bond as a comedy thing and I woke up with the head of a horse in my bed. :)]

    The Godfather has officially put you "on the shelf".

    DarthDimi wrote:
    DRush76 wrote:
    I don't get the humor in this. What are you trying to say? Anyone who disliked "SKYFALL", loved "DIE ANOTHER DAY"? Is this supposed to be some kind of slap at those who didn't like the film? By the way, "DIE ANOTHER DAY" is far from being one of my favorite Bond movies. But I still liked it better than "SKYFALL".

    Comedy.
    Lighten up.

    This is a perfect example of a lobotomy gone wrong.

  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    Germanlady wrote:
    Its amazing how well it holds up against all those "Oscar" contender and other new films.

    RT:
    92% Skyfall with 8% liked it

    79% Killing Them Softly (new Brad Pitt) with 65% liked it
    90% Lincoln with 88% liked it
    88% Life of Pi with 90% liked it
    90% Liver Linings Playbook with 87% liked it

    only one better is
    Argo 95% with 94% liked it

    Metacritic:
    81 Skyfall

    64 Killing Them Softly
    78 Life of Pi
    86 Lincoln
    81 Silver Linings Playbook
    86 Argo

    Lordy lord, I didn't realise those in the Academy register their votes online as well. You learn something new everyday.
  • The Oscars I think might be too stuck up to pick Bond. The two action films they've picked recently are Avatar (mind blowing CGI and enviroment theme) and District 9 (lots of political themes).

    Drive was built up for Oscars but didn't get a single nomination.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,512
    The Oscars I think might be too stuck up to pick Bond. The two action films they've picked recently are Avatar (mind blowing CGI and enviroment theme) and District 9 (lots of political themes).

    Drive was built up for Oscars but didn't get a single nomination.

    To be perfectly honest if a Bond film were to win an Oscar for best picture it's not a Bond film. We've done 50 years without one, Bond is bigger than Oscar, I for one couldn't care less. It means absolutely NOTHING.
  • edited November 2012 Posts: 12,837
    RC7 wrote:
    The Oscars I think might be too stuck up to pick Bond. The two action films they've picked recently are Avatar (mind blowing CGI and enviroment theme) and District 9 (lots of political themes).

    Drive was built up for Oscars but didn't get a single nomination.

    To be perfectly honest if a Bond film were to win an Oscar for best picture it's not a Bond film. We've done 50 years without one, Bond is bigger than Oscar, I for one couldn't care less. It means absolutely NOTHING.

    Completely agree with you. I've been saying this for ages almost every time somebody brings it up.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    RC7 wrote:
    The Oscars I think might be too stuck up to pick Bond. The two action films they've picked recently are Avatar (mind blowing CGI and enviroment theme) and District 9 (lots of political themes).

    Drive was built up for Oscars but didn't get a single nomination.

    To be perfectly honest if a Bond film were to win an Oscar for best picture it's not a Bond film. We've done 50 years without one, Bond is bigger than Oscar, I for one couldn't care less. It means absolutely NOTHING.
    I agree. If it was to come, FRWL had the best chance. I think Skyfall could still be a nod though. The academy does give nods to films that rake in record breaking cash.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,582
    Zekidk wrote:
    Benny wrote:
    Now I appreciate that this film is not to everyones taste, nor is Craig a suitable Bond to some.
    vs
    Benny wrote:
    but if you like Bond, then you're probably going to love Skyfall.
    This confuses me. Are you suggesting that if you don't like SF, you probaby don't like Bond?
    I bet no one ever invites you to dinner parties.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,582
    RC7 wrote:
    The Oscars I think might be too stuck up to pick Bond. The two action films they've picked recently are Avatar (mind blowing CGI and enviroment theme) and District 9 (lots of political themes).

    Drive was built up for Oscars but didn't get a single nomination.

    To be perfectly honest if a Bond film were to win an Oscar for best picture it's not a Bond film. We've done 50 years without one, Bond is bigger than Oscar, I for one couldn't care less. It means absolutely NOTHING.
    I agree. If it was to come, FRWL had the best chance. I think Skyfall could still be a nod though. The academy does give nods to films that rake in record breaking cash.

    When FRWL came out Bond was still considered low brow entertainment. Now after 50 years and with a good and popular Bond film released, the Acadamy may feel more lenient. I hope it's recognised, but best picture? I doubt it.

    SF has rejuvenated the franchise, but Bond won't win the top honours, not in my lifetime.
  • Posts: 3,276
    NicNac wrote:
    I bet no one ever invites you to dinner parties.
    Good one. Keep'em coming!
  • Posts: 3,327
    Zekidk wrote:
    I didn't say that the whole movie is "perfect."
    And actually I have as much "right" as anyone to criticize SF. And there's really nothing you can do about it, besides continuing to whine and complain about it and maybe join Germanlady's thought police!
    You have no right to criticize SF anymore. I'm the new Guv'nor of the thought police, and you are now under arrest!!!! <:-P
  • edited December 2012 Posts: 6,601
    doubleoego wrote:
    One of the things I love about SF is Bond's comparative quiet confidence against how he was in CR and QoS. I felt that his confidence and skills were more refined and significantly more subtle in SF and even though he knew his limitations after the Istanbul botch up, it was his sense of duty and loyalty that took precedence over any fears or doubts he had about himself and just went ahead and got on with the job that needed doing.
    This is all the more evident and for me, demands respect and appreciation for Bond as the movie clearly showed that, in all honesty, Bond had no business going back out into the field, struggling and failing to pass the mental/fitness tests and would seemingly be of better use doing official standard intelligence work.
    Would it have mattered if M had told Bond he had failed and that he'd be once again suspended? (Ref. QoS) Maybe. Maybe not.
    Bond has proven in the last 2 movies that he is an individual that is resourceful enough to be dismissed and still somehow find his way in the thick of what needs to be done. Sure, in the last 2 movies there was a more bullish approach to it but this time around, that quieter confidence showcases a more professional and forward thinking disposition.
    One could argue that, there could be a little more to Bond removing the bullet fragment when he did because, there was a big chance that he himself knew he may not make it back on to active duty after knowing in his heart that he didn't perform up to scratch and thus, made sure that the bullet fragment was FHEO. That way, if suspended, it may not be hard to imagine Bond working independently from MI6 (unofficially using their resources perhaps) to investigate and track down leads using the bullet fragment as a jumping off point.
    This of course is one of the things I feel that's an emphatic theme particularly in the Craig era; Bond's persistence and perseverance and triumphs to never give up in overwhelming odds, particularly regarding instances that require a degree of mental and physical endurance and not just from adversaries but from himself too.

    I really love SF not just as a movie but I think it's a really significant Bond movie particularly in terms of a tonal shift in Bond's character and I believe there are many underlying and nuanced elements that really gives the movie a lot of charm.

    This is a great review and thanks for that. Don't think, its being ignored, but only very few feel compelled to visit this thread these days, which is understandable, so its sorta quiet.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 15,138
    Zekidk wrote:
    Benny wrote:
    Now I appreciate that this film is not to everyones taste, nor is Craig a suitable Bond to some.
    vs
    Benny wrote:
    but if you like Bond, then you're probably going to love Skyfall.
    This confuses me. Are you suggesting that if you don't like SF, you probaby don't like Bond?

    Well then you're easily confused. Maybe re-read my post and it will all become clear.
    I wasn't implying that anyone who doesn't like Skyfall, doesn't like Bond. But I do believe that a vast majority of fans would be pleased with and enjoy Skyfall.
    As it would seem many cinemagoers appear to be happy with Skyfall, judging by the ever increasing box office returns, and generally good word of mouth.
    Zekidk wrote:
    Zekidk wrote:
    But everything right up until Bond heads to Iceland, is perfect. Not necesarrily "better" than SF, but I just enjoyed these more.
    Credibility shot to bits right there. I don't think you have any right to slate SF's plot if you think DAD is perfect.
    I didn't say that the whole movie is "perfect."
    And actually I have as much "right" as anyone to criticize SF. And there's really nothing you can do about it, besides continuing to whine and complain about it and maybe join Germanlady's thought police!

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